Is it AIBU to think that Nigel Farage has brought England into disrepute?

[Paris7]

Following Nigel Farage's extremely insulting, gratuitous abuse of the EU today, should he be be brought to account for the serious damage he has undoubtedly done by bringing England - for whom he apparently speaks -into disrepute at the worst, most delicate time.

whats so vile about that?

I get that. I am (very badly) trying to answer glass's point about why, if Brexit is so clearly such a bad thing, why Merkel is trying so hard to prevent others following the UK example. My point being that exit from the EU appeals to the far right (and yes, to others besides, but presumably they are decent rational people so we are not worried about their rise in importance). It's appeal to the far right, considering their rise across Europe, is one very good reason to consider carefully whether you want in or out. It should not be the only reason. And it isn't, by any stretch, the only reason, that politicians consider 'In' to be a better option. But it is a valid reason - unless we wish to see the sort of rise in race crimes that we've seen here over the last few days also travel throughout Europe. Last time that happened, it led to some very dark days, far worse than an economic crisis. I'm not suggesting that it will go there, I don't want to scaremonger, but we learn from history. Otherwise it gets repeated. So when Merkel wants to quash these far right factions, let listen to that. She's got good reason for it.

Brexiteer -I think the claim that the EU has operated by stealth and deception a bit much. Considering that he was admitting less than 12 hours after the result that one of the key leave slogans was 'a mistake'. I know he didn't say it, but he didn't correct it either did he? If he thought it was a mistake, why didn't he say so right at the start. It was on the side of a bus, he can't have missed it. Keeping quiet was a pretty huge deception.
Second, he's taken money to be in the EU. And he's not turned up anyway. Scrounging, in fact. Being paid for a job he didn't do. Bit rich to then accuse others of not doing a real job, and to harp on about democracy, might have been more democratic for the UK if he'd turned up, like he was voted in to do.
Third, the idea that they need us more than we need them is daft. We are not a bigger trading entity than the rest of the EU put together. We were a convenient doorway for many businesses into the EU. If we can't offer that, our importance will go down, not up. He's deluding himself if he inks the EU will give us all the terms we want.
Fourth, when asking someone for a favour, you don't start by laughing at them. Even kids know that. He expects them to listen with respect and then agree with them when he starts out by jeering? Try it yourself, ask someone for something after you've mocked them. You might not get what you want.

That's all for the moment, as I need to go to bed.

He called them out and rightly so
the EU has more to lose than we do, the whole European Unification project is teetering on the brink

we are only the first to leave

You call it calling them out. I call it jeering and I still think it's a twatish thing to do, especially when you are looking to talk about trade deals. And then he has the nerve to talk about acting like adults. Sorry, but if the teenagers I teach behaved like that they'd get a lecture about, well, behaving more like adults and not bratish kids. He came across as smug, and arrogant, and as I say, he's taken all his money to not do a job. I don't see anything to respect in that. I just don't. The irony of him lecturing them on behaving like adults is worthy of Alanis Morisette.

OK Baby clearly we have different takes on what happened,, mine is one perspective, yours is another

It's very early days yet ( I think most people would agree on that point!)
time will tell!

whats so vile about that?

52%-48% vote a “seismic result”?

What I’d like to see is a grownup and sensible attitude to how we negotiate a different relationship.

Oh, the irony! Then he behaves like a child & insults everyone in the chamber by saying “Now I know virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives. Or worked in business or worked in trade or indeed ever created a job.^

^If you were to decide to cut off your noses to spite your faces, and to reject any idea of a sensible trade deal the consequences would be far worse for you than it would be for us. Even no deal is better for the United Kingdom than the rotten deal we have at the moment.

Really? More insults then he concludes we will be friends?

And he thought that speech would contribute to a favourable "exit"deal exactly how?

It was all very deliberate. No way is anyone stupid enough to think that is how you ask for a good deal....

Farage was trying to piss off the MEP's to sabotage any exit deal - if they hate us even more because of what he said so give us a terrible deal it gives Farage more ammunition on the "Europe is evil" front and provides UKIP with a continued reason for existence, giving UKIP a chance to gain ground in the political vacuum.

Farage understands that they only way you can break through the mainstream media wall-to-wall EU love-in is to create headlines. That's why he gave the EU a sound rollicking today - and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

That footage will now reach other countries and play well with other countries Leave voters who may be fortunate to secure their own referendum one day.

Mainstream wall to wall media love in? Have you not seen the Daily Mail or the Sun ever?

Pls sign this petition. They lie to get their way and this must be stopped.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/119416

Farage is a twat. A dangerous and vile twat, but still, a twat.

His speech was vile because he was mocking the eu. The referendum may have resulted in a leave vote but that doesn't give him the right to mock others or talk down to anyone. It is exactly that kind of attitude that has led to the racism, intolerance and general anger amongst society that I truly think has led to the rise of Isis and the weakening of embracing a multi cultural Britain. He and others like him are feeding fears. Fear only ever results in more hate.

Farage is so dangerous. He pretends to represent the ordinary 'little people'. How can anyone take him seriously? He is an embarassment.

He's a huge embarrassment and I can't wait to leave the country - I don't want to be Britsh any more .... The whole thing's a travesty

Its a shame you feel like that Nigella, what other countries do you feel will be a better option for you?

He and others like him are feeding fears. Fear only ever results in more hate

The remainers have made feeding fear into an art form

Farage understands that they only way you can break through the mainstream media wall-to-wall EU love-in is to create headlines. That's why he gave the EU a sound rollicking today - and I thoroughly enjoyed it

He has set a precedent by not kowtowing to them

Urgh all this talk of the 'remainers' vs the 'leavers' starts to feel so tribal and divisive. Divying people up into two camps..It makes me incredibly uncomfortable.

There is only one good thing about leaving the EU and it's that Nigel Farage will be out of a job. Fingers crossed he will fade into obscurity.

I was cheering on the Scottish MEP hoping that they would remember 48% don't agree either and don't forget about us!

Not all people who voted leave are racist Farage supporters, but all racist Farage supporter voted leave. Those scenes on the Manchester tram were also a national disgrace and Farage has stoked that up.

Farage is a complete embarrassment. He certainly doesn't represent me and my views and I really resent the fact that he's painting himself as some sort of 'voice for the UK'. He's only in it for himself and his party, he knows that putting himself in this position will give UKIP more limelight and since he will soon be unemployed he's banking on them picking up steam again and sadly the public seems to be lapping it up.

Why you would find enjoyment out of watching such a pathetic man be so rude towards those who we will be wanting to set up trade deals with in the future, I don't know!

And now there's a petition to get him a knighthood The world has gone barking mad.

@Brexiteer- yes it is indeed a shame. France would be a better option for me, provided there isn't an upsurgence of the far right.