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Is it AIBU to think that Nigel Farage has brought England into disrepute?

98 replies

Paris7 · 28/06/2016 18:49

Following Nigel Farage's extremely insulting, gratuitous abuse of the EU today, should he be be brought to account for the serious damage he has undoubtedly done by bringing England - for whom he apparently speaks -into disrepute at the worst, most delicate time.

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Figmentofmyimagination · 28/06/2016 21:50

Nuttall was vile on question time. To the undergraduate who asked whether brexit had improved his prospects for the future, nuttall basically responded that now he would know how it feels to be on a council estate with no prospects. Odious creep of a man. He should not be given a platform.

They had the right idea before the war with their treatment of Mosley and his fascist friends. Read Martin pugh's excellent book, 'hurrah for the blackshirts'.

(The book's title btw is a quote from the daily mail - nothing changes...).

Destinysdaughter · 28/06/2016 21:52

That saying, all it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men ( or women, obvs ) to do nothing, could never be more true right now...

glassgarden · 28/06/2016 21:56

He was bang on!
Nice work Nigel :o

Destinysdaughter · 28/06/2016 21:57

Twat

STIDW · 28/06/2016 21:57

Just seen Guy Verhofstadt on TV saying everyone knows Nigel Farage represents Little England not Great Britain!

glassgarden · 28/06/2016 21:59

if we are a laughing stock, if people think brexit was such a stupid move then why is Merkel so keen to make sure other countries don't follow suit?

If the EU is such a good thing and staying is a no-brainer there would be no need to prevent other countries leaving would there?

glassgarden · 28/06/2016 22:03

it was a brilliant speech
Absolutely spot on
Nigel Farage played an absolute blinder
Go Nigel

he's dead right and they didnt like it one little bit, thats why they all look so sour faced

babybythesea · 28/06/2016 22:05

Natalia - I am having an argument with someone at the moment about the similarities between the Nazi campaign and this. She won't have it. Says people died fighting against Hitler and we wouldn't accept that here. Have you got a link to the MEP's comment about the Nazi propaganda? Might show her that it's not just me being melodramatic.

glassgarden · 28/06/2016 22:06

I wonder who will exit next?

my money is on Frexit

ShatnersBassoon · 28/06/2016 22:06

I was very relieved to hear Guy Verhofstadt saying that, about Farage representing Little England. I loved that he pronounced Farage's name the same way I do too.

babybythesea · 28/06/2016 22:09

Glass - because the other countries also have far right factions who are looking to the UK as a shining example. They, like us, have a large number of people who want an EU and politicians who think it's a good idea, but they also have a far right who don't want it. They don't want that far right strand to get a hold. Without those far right factions, staying would indeed be a no brained. But you've got far right racists with no brains involved. That's why Merkel wants to make sure no-one else follows suit. Because no-one thinks the rise of the far right across Europe would be a good plan.

vichill · 28/06/2016 22:10

lolling at everyone ignoring glassgarden. is she a confirmed nut?

ErrolTheDragon · 28/06/2016 22:12

Guy Verhofstadt had him bang to rights.

And even the one UKIP MEP, Carswell, has told LBC ' told LBC radio that “resorting to that sort of language is possibly not in the national interest. It struck precisely the wrong tone.”'

How the hell did we get such an odious idiot (mis)representing our country?

NataliaOsipova · 28/06/2016 22:15

babybythesea I don't have a link - sorry. It was Guy Verhofstadt in his speech - had it on this morning and they've just shown that bit on the BBC news.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/06/2016 22:15

I wish the press didn't indulge him so much

but he provides headlines, he will get people tuning in, he will get a response and this is why the media like him so much

Surferjet · 28/06/2016 22:20

Guy Verhofstadt had him bang to rights
😂😂😂😂😂
You mean the Nigel Farage who forced the referendum & created the biggest political drama this country has ever seen?

The same Nigel Farage who could possible bring down the entire EU?

Yeah, he really told him 😂

vichill · 28/06/2016 22:26

the great unwashed of the uk brought down the EU...IF that bloody article 50 ever does get activated.

Armi · 28/06/2016 22:31

He's a horrible, pompous, patronising, pontificating wanker who should stick to spouting off his shit opinions in the golf club bar. I can't even bear to look at his revolting face. He disgusts me.

flippinada · 28/06/2016 22:41

Can I just ask... does anyone feel like they've stumbled into a dark, alternate version of Jeeves and Wooster with Roderick Spode as the hero?

glassgarden · 28/06/2016 22:50

are you saying that 52 of people who voted in the referendum are from the far right baby?

you dont need to be far right to see that EU membership is something to be avoided

flippinada · 28/06/2016 22:58

There's a rather amusing video doing the rounds, it shows the MEP behind Farage quietly making his views known. Has anyone seen it?

Brexiteerglassgarden · 28/06/2016 23:00

You mean the Nigel Farage who forced the referendum & created the biggest political drama this country has ever seen?
The same Nigel Farage who could possible bring down the entire EU?
Yeah, he really told him 😂

oh yeah, Nige was sooo vindicated :o

babybythesea · 28/06/2016 23:06

God no, that not what I am saying. But I am saying that the far right faction do want the EU to go away, what with its rules about allowing people to move around etc. they all want their own countries out. The politicians, on the whole, like the trade and security the EU brings and do not wish to provide the far right with any opportunities. Look at the rise in racial intolerance here already, and the far right across Europe think we are amazing. That's what the EU are trying to clamp down on in their own countries.

Brexiteerglassgarden · 28/06/2016 23:14

sure the far right have their own agenda, but it's not just the far right who want to be out of the EU, if it was only the far right who vote to leave they'd not get a majority

Brexiteerglassgarden · 28/06/2016 23:15

and here is his speech:

Isn’t it funny? When I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign to get Britain to leave the European Union, you all laughed at me – well I have to say, you’re not laughing now, are you? The reason you’re so upset, you’re so angry, has been perfectly clear, from all the angry exchanges this morning.

You as a political project are in denial. You’re in denial that your currency is failing. Just look at the Mediterranean! As a policy to impose poverty on Greece and the Mediterranean you’ve done very well.

You’re in denial over Mrs. Merkel’s call for as many people as possible to cross the Mediterranean – which has led to massive divisions between within countries and between countries.

The biggest problem you’ve got and the main reason the UK voted the way it did is because you have by stealth and deception, and without telling the truth to the rest of the peoples of Europe, you have imposed upon them a political union. When the people in 2005 in the Netherlands and France voted against that political union and rejected the constitution you simply ignored them and brought the Lisbon treaty in through the back door.

What happened last Thursday was a remarkable result – it was a seismic result. Not just for British politics, for European politics, but perhaps even for global politics too.

Because what the little people did, what the ordinary people did – what the people who’d been oppressed over the last few years who’d seen their living standards go down did – was they rejected the multinationals, they rejected the merchant banks, they rejected big politics and they said actually, we want our country back, we want our fishing waters back, we want our borders back.

We want to be an independent, self-governing, normal nation. That is what we have done and that is what must happen. In doing so we now offer a beacon of hope to democrats across the rest of the European continent. I’ll make one prediction this morning: the United Kingdom will not be the last member state to leave the European Union.

The question is what do we do next? It is up to the British government to invoke article 50 and I don’t think we should spend too long in doing it. I totally agree that the British people have voted, we need to make sure that it happens.

What I’d like to see is a grownup and sensible attitude to how we negotiate a different relationship. I know that virtually none of you have never done a proper job in your lives, or worked in business, or worked in trade, or indeed ever created a job. But listen, just listen.

You’re quite right Mr Schultz – Ukip used to protest against the establishment and now the establishment protests against Ukip. Something has happened here. Let us listen to some simple pragmatic economics – my country and your country, between us we do an enormous amount of business in goods and services. That trade is mutually beneficial to both of us, that trade matters. If you were to cut off your noses to spite your faces and reject any idea of a sensible trade deal the consequences would be far worse for you than it would be for us.

[Laughter from MEPs]

Even no deal is better for the United Kingdom is better than the current rotten deal that we’ve got. But if we were to move to a position where tariffs were reintroduced on products like motorcars then hundreds of thousands of German works would risk losing their jobs.

Why don’t we be grown up, pragmatic, sensible, realistic and let’s cut between us a sensible tariff-free deal and thereafter recognise that the United Kingdom will be your friend, that we will trade with you, cooperate with you, we will be your best friends in the world. Do that, do it sensibly, and allow us to go off and pursue our global ambitions and future