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to be sad that CORBYN is being asked to go…

106 replies

elodie2000 · 28/06/2016 17:50

The vote of no confidence results are in and they want him to step down. I don't believe he has done anything wrong but he is seen as the wrong person to lead the party forward. He isn't but he COULD have been great.

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BurnTheBlackSuit · 28/06/2016 21:28

Please can someone explain the comments about Chilcot?

SonicSpotlight · 28/06/2016 21:28

Labour has under 400,000 members. Corbyn got under 200,000 votes. Labour got over 9 million votes at the last general election. In spite of what he and his Nashi think he is not Labour.

Flashbangandgone · 28/06/2016 21:29

i genuinely can't see how the Labour Party can survive as a credible force after this.... MPs so utterly at odds with the party members. The depths of these divisions make the 80s seem benign. I think it quite likely that Labour will be wiped out the next GE in England and Wales as it was in the last GE in Scotland.... There's a huge centre ground vacant in UK politics at the moment. Who will fill the void? Perfect opportunity for the Lib Dems perhaps if they can get their voices heard above the fray?

Yes, I know many will never ever trust them again, but those tend to be left-wingers who flocked to them during the Charles Kennedy anti-Iraq era who will stick with either the diminished Labour Party or move to the Greens.

whitehandledkitchenknife · 28/06/2016 21:34

The media will portray what it feels is in it's own the owners best interest.
Media portrayal has never been, or is likely to become, impartial.
I do wonder what is in that Chilcot report that all the Blairites are scared of.
Hang on until the 6th July Jeremy. And stand again.
And I'll join the Labour Party.

Spudlet · 28/06/2016 21:35

Joined Labour today so I could vote against him in a leadership election. This referendum debacle means that we need a functioning opposition, and a viable left of centre party more than ever. We are looking likely to lose the protection of the EU for employees rights etc. We need a party to counter the likes of Priti Patel. Corbyn is simply not the right person to lead that party. We need someone who's going to hold the Tories' feet to the fire, not faff about reading out letters from Doris in Dorking.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 28/06/2016 21:36

his following has grown.

No it really hasn't.

Where were all those protesters from yesterday? No Labour posters in sight just Socialist Workers Party and Stop the War.

LordRothermereBlackshirtCunt · 28/06/2016 21:40

WHat are the main differences between the Blairites / more centre-ground Labour MPs and the Lib Dems? Any chance of something like a revival of the SDP? This whole situation really worries me. Progressive parties need to work together at this time, not divide themselves further.

SonicSpotlight · 28/06/2016 21:42

I'm going to join too. I have always voted Labour but never felt the desire to have a badge membership card. This is too important to ignore. He and Len are going to break the party.

ElizabethLemon · 28/06/2016 21:44

He's a hideous man, driven by his own ego which is sadly propped up by his supporters, who consist of middle aged socialists trying to relive the good old days and naive, white middle class young people.

Mooingcow · 28/06/2016 21:52

If his going means the end of his appalling, gurning, patronising, witless sidekick Diane Abbot, then it's frankly a small price to pay.

She gives me the absolute horrors.

I suspect she knows a terrible terrible secret about him. There can not be any other reason why she's constantly propped up to force the electorate to run screaming from the TV.

SonicSpotlight · 28/06/2016 21:54

Until recently I thought he was a decent person who was out of his depth. Seeing him smirking as his supporters hissed at Laura Kuenssberg (BBC political editor) changed my mind. His supporters are harassing a Labour MP outside their constituency office because they spoke out against The Great Leader and Corbyn does nothing. His team are now planning deselection for MPs who oppose him. I'm not sure if they've been reading the Party Constitution or 1984.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/06/2016 21:56

He's a hideous man, driven by his own ego which is sadly propped up by his supporters, who consist of middle aged socialists trying to relive the good old days and naive, white middle class young people

absolutely agree

NashvilleQueen · 29/06/2016 20:03

mooingcow they were an item once upon a time so it's possible. Perhaps she's never got over him.

Wish he would bugger off. Total agree with assessment by Elizabeth

Mooingcow · 29/06/2016 20:05

Nashville that's put me right off my milk and honey.

FarAwayHills · 29/06/2016 20:18

His stubbornness and arrogance is astounding. It is clear he is not the man to unite the party and function as a strong opposition. The charade currently being played out is distracting from the real task in hand and any honourable person with half a brain would step aside and put an end to the circus.

HPFA · 29/06/2016 20:20

He's a hideous man, driven by his own ego which is sadly propped up by his supporters, who consist of middle aged socialists trying to relive the good old days and naive, white middle class young people

Fabulous comment. I bought the decent man scenario at first but no longer. He surrounds himself with people who agree with him - look at that rally last night - enjoying the adulation whilst the party he was supposed to lead collapses around him.

Mooingcow · 29/06/2016 20:27

Nashville, Beardy Jez and Grinning Di of the flared 1970s look like the illustrations in that ghastly book all our parents had, The Joy of Sex.

You just know they did it on a Paisley bedspread to Donovan.

NashvilleQueen · 29/06/2016 20:31

GrinGrinShock

Pangurban1 · 29/06/2016 21:07

There was a woman on channel 4 news. She was talking about austerity. The thing is, austerity will be worse now. Osborne has said taxes will have to be increased. New chancellor will be left to deal with the essentials.

I can't imagine taxes going up without cuts. Cuts will be an extra hardship. I think Corbyn should have made more of an effort with the referendum campaign. You have to look at how the world has changed. It is the most vulnerable who don't have Union representation. You fine and cushioned if you have a Union bargaining for you. Manufacturing hardly exists in this country anymore. A lot of equality legislation will have to be repealed in the Brexit.

I think he is decent, but maybe doesn't entirely look at the world as it exists today.

Mooingcow · 29/06/2016 21:24

A lot of equality legislation will have to be repealed in the Brexit

Can you expand?

I went to a seminar today with lawyers and constitutional experts and they said the exact opposite.

peachpudding · 29/06/2016 21:28

ust saw JC at a rally tonight.

Why is he always speaking at a Momentum rally and never Labour rallies? What party is he in?

Why is he speaking at a rally about himself. Can you imagine Cameron speaking at a rally about Cameron, isn't that just weird?

Why does he never speak about the EU issue, isn't that the biggest matter to affect our country in 50 years?

Why does he never address the crisis in the Labour party that he is supposed to lead. Its almost as if he is pretending it isn't happening.

Pangurban1 · 29/06/2016 21:47

It was some programme on radio 4. Equality legislation was specifically mentioned.

NashvilleQueen · 29/06/2016 21:49

Just read an article which said he spends his time 'preaching to the converted and the perpetually awe inspired'. Resonated with me. He's says the same stuff to the same people and nothing more.

Thymeout · 29/06/2016 21:54

From an article in the Guardian by Marina Hyde.

"Outside the chamber, meanwhile, some more shadow ministers have resigned after around 37 minutes in the job. Gordon Brown has now joined Harriet Harman in saying that Corbyn must go. A cancelled Momentum rally means Jeremy will no longer spend this evening being buoyed up by members of The Mandate, as his followers are known, Branch Jeremians having been rejected as too much of a tongue-twister to shout while holding a Socialist Workers party placard. Where does he go now? Nowhere? A secessionist community in the Hollywood Hills? It’s unclear. The only hope must be that this situation can be brought to an end without a massive balls-up by federal Swat teams."

One of the comments compares him to Rev Jones with the Koolaid.