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To ask if Leave voters would still vote the same way, knowing what they know now? And what people who didn't vote now feel?

252 replies

longestlurkerever · 25/06/2016 20:18

I think I'd find it easier to accept the result if I knew that the majority of the country were still happy with the decision to leave, now that they realise that the economic predictions were not scaremongering, that there really is no fallback plan for how to forge a new deal with the EU and now that the leave campaign appear to be backtracking on many of their claims.

No judgment, it's just that the decision is not binding yet. There are reports in the media of people regretting their vote to leave but I don't know how widespread a feeling that is.

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TheElementsSong · 26/06/2016 11:51

I don't see why Leave voters would ever regret their vote. It's a win-win.

Any bad things from before the referendum could be blamed on the EU. Any bad things happening after the referendum can be blamed even more on the EU and on the negative attitudes of Remain voters - a whole new extra group of bad guys to blame, who will be ruining our bright future simply with the power of their thoughts. Economy in poor shape, unfavourable trading deals, immigration still ongoing, job losses, mean comments on the internet? All the fault of those other nasty people!

Meanwhile, any good outcomes, of course, will be entirely due to the wisdom and hard work of the Leave vote.

I'd be ravingly pleased with myself too!

cbigs · 26/06/2016 12:19

Emerald it's stories of people spitting at others randomly saying you have to get out now! Etc it's given small minded racists a sense of empowerment to 'kick the forriners out' and I feel sick about it . Sad

OrangesandLemonsNow · 26/06/2016 12:21

I got spat at for voting leave by a Remainer.

emeraldlakes · 26/06/2016 13:10

Disgusting on both sides but I've myself witnessed more backlash and abuse aimed towards Leave voters.

WeekendAway · 26/06/2016 13:41

I think it's really daft to ask Leave voters if they regret their vote two days later. Ask in two years, then 5. That will be the very minimum time it will take to see if it was worth it in the end.

There will be people feeling incredibly nervous and doubtful today, but many of them will be people who were unsure about their vote in the first place. i don't think it's going to be an easy ride at all, but then I don't think the alternative was going to be a glorious bed of roses either. My vote was for the least worst option with an eye on the long game.

thebestfurchinchilla · 26/06/2016 14:25

I know two remain voters who wish they'd voted leave. They wanted too but felt unsure. Now they realise that they were in the minority and shouldn't have been bullied into voting remain because of accusations of racism.

thebestfurchinchilla · 26/06/2016 14:25

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thebestfurchinchilla · 26/06/2016 14:38

majority not minority! EU ref fatigue!

thebestfurchinchilla · 26/06/2016 15:31

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/germany-had-veto-power-over-david-camerons-eu-deal-says-iain-duncan-smith-a7021826.html

This is the kind of thing I voted leave for. We need to make our own decisions for Britain, not to please Merkel.

SallyMcgally · 30/06/2016 02:44

I do wish people would stop throwing around the accusation of 'poor losers' as if this whole business is of no more consequence than a game of chess. It is incredibly childish. When people are terrified about their futures, are they really expected to shut up and grin broadly simply to show that they're Jolly Good Sports. Grow up.

Simmi1 · 30/06/2016 05:42

Agree with Sally! Also let's not forget that farage said that if remain won 52-48 then there would be unfinished business. However because leave won with such a narrow margin are remainers just supposed to just grin and bear it for fear of looking like poor losers?!

Alconleigh · 30/06/2016 08:15

So far we've lost all our top credit ratings. Tax rises and spending cuts promised. It's become blindingly apparent there is no plan, as Johnson et al didn't believe they would win. It was a game for self promotion. It's also become clear that the Leave campaign promises were bollocks (well clear to those who couldn't already see it). We will have to spend years negotiating with Europe to achieve a position which is....worse than that we had a week ago. We have the entire political establishment in a tailspin. And the icing on the cake, a huge upsurge in overt racism. Not all Leave voters, clearly. Not even a majority. But it's become very clear that a significant number of people genuinely thought they were voting for the buses to arrive on Friday and start deporting people.

I'm genuinely struggling to see how anyone could survey that and say "yep, pretty pleased at my handiwork there".

Simmi1 · 30/06/2016 08:36

Agreed Alcon. I think someone unthread said that remainers are looking for an increase in racism and therefore they're seeing it and the racism has been there all along. I do believe there's an increase in racism - I have friends who've reported comments that for the first time they've felt unwelcome in the uk and been told to go back to their own country! I think Farage & co have somehow legitimised racisim for some people in the uk.

Alconleigh · 30/06/2016 08:56

Oh and I left out the end of the Union and the destabilisation of the Irish peace process!

AppleSetsSail · 30/06/2016 10:01

I'm genuinely struggling to see how anyone could survey that and say "yep, pretty pleased at my handiwork there".

This makes no sense. I have literally never seen/heard even one Brexiter say: 'This will go off without a hitch'.

AppleSetsSail · 30/06/2016 10:01

We have no idea what the medium and long term implications will be.

AppleSetsSail · 30/06/2016 10:01

Only our own best guesses.

Simmi1 · 30/06/2016 10:21

Well that's alright then Apple. Just ignore all the experts and go with what you feel might turn out alright in the end.

StrawberryandCreamPips · 30/06/2016 10:44

Seriously I doubt that Brexit would have behaved like that if they had not got it, just accepted it and move on, not call a petition and stamping their feet.

Strange, from where I'm standing that's exactly what UKIP have been doing ever since their inception. In fact, wasn't that the whole point of UKIP?

And what happened to old Nige's, “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way" ? Sauce for the goose and all that.

Democracy is all the voices of all the people. It is also an ongoing process. And the UK is a parliamentary democracy, so parliament is where this should ultimately be decided. We haven't suddenly turned into Switzerland overnight, though I hear it's pretty at this time of year Wink

DixieNormas · 30/06/2016 10:52

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Alconleigh · 30/06/2016 11:01

I'm not sure what I outlined is just a bit of a hitch......

SanityAssassin · 30/06/2016 11:05

Perfectly happy leave voter here. Just wish they would get on with it now. Sooner we are out the better.

heron98 · 30/06/2016 11:28

I voted remain. I am 35 and this is the first time I have ever voted because it's a subject I feel very strongly about. However, I now see that my apathy may have contributed in some small way to Cameron being in Power (I would not have voted for the Tories). So in some indirect way I am also to blame for this outcome. I have learned my lesson.

Simmi1 · 30/06/2016 11:50

Don't worry Herron, I'm the same in that I've often not voted in general elections as I think they're all as bad as each other and it's all much of a muchness. I still think that to a certain extent but this is major uk changing stuff and to be honest I'm gutted at the result,

SeaEagleFeather · 30/06/2016 15:52

Some people've said they'd vote Leave because they hate the Remainers' behaviour since.

I think that this is a vote that should be decided on the issues, not on other peoples' reactions. It's too big.