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I regret the way I voted.

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lulucappuccino · 24/06/2016 23:58

After a long day reading Facebook (didn't announce on there that I'd voted out), colleagues talking and family (who do know how I voted) complaining, I really wish I'd voted to remain.

I read a few bullet point articles and felt swayed by the amount of money were were paying to the EU. But I feel as though I'd partly not researched enough and also believed the hype.

Seeing the pound falling and friends worried for their jobs etc, I feel as though I've done something really bad. In fact, I'm sure I have.

Does anyone else regret the way they voted, whichever way that was?

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Lweji · 25/06/2016 08:39

Did they? Really?

Or was it like it sounded to you?

Or did they say that blaming migrants for the woos of the country was racist because the problems were not caused by migrants?

Didn't so many people say that they thought the UK would be better in the EU than out? Now they are being blamed for not saying it?

I firmly blame voters. Voters should take responsibility for how they vote and the information they listen to.

Lweji · 25/06/2016 08:40

Sorry, that was in relation to:
Lweji, all that might be true but the ruling elite and the remain campaign made no attempt to appease the concerns of the working class. Instead just labelled them thick and racist.

KateInKorea · 25/06/2016 08:41

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Helmetbymidnight · 25/06/2016 08:43

The remain campaign was poor.

Well, it had to refute the lies of the leavers, I thought they did that, but hey.

They lacked a charismatic frontsperson - people 'know' Boris and Farage.
They lacked a catchphrase - people liked 'take back control'
They failed to talk about what the EU has ever done for us (I don't blame them because they've been slagging it off for years!)

OrianaBanana · 25/06/2016 08:43

Unfortunately BoJo and the Vote Leave lot are not the government - they can say whatever the hell they like, like EU subsidies will be replaced by Wedtminster, EU migrants here already can stay - but it means precisely zip. Sad

OrianaBanana · 25/06/2016 08:44

Or Westminster - whoever!

Lottielo · 25/06/2016 08:46

Loletta most of the EU migrants I know wouldn't trust a thing Gove and Co say. I can't believe they would be asked to leave because the work they do is so valuable, but I still can't help but worry. I wish they would just make the position absolutely clear and tell EU migrants that they are valued and welcome.

Loletta · 25/06/2016 08:48

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SanityClause · 25/06/2016 08:51

cannot believe we have had a referendum without having an exit strategy. It's ok though, Boris will sort it out!!!

Yes, he wil TAKE BACK CONTROL!

Ahh, the Brexiteers, big on rhetoric, short of ideas.

Except for Gove. He's big on ideas. Like the one where we don't plan ahead about where we will need new schools, on the basis of a shortage of places. Instead, we just hope that someone will come along and open a school where a new one is needed. Or not. Why the fuck does it matter to him? It's interesting for him to sit back and see it play out. And he can always encourage people to blame excessive immigration, if the whole thing is a failure.

BitOutOfPractice · 25/06/2016 08:51

Id like to be the bigger person and say I feel sorry for the op. But I'm not and I can't.

I am still too angry and worried.

Op that is an utterly crap and stupid thing you did. You deserve to feel shit. There I'm not proud of it but I've said it.

PattyPenguin · 25/06/2016 08:53

To go back to zeo hours, the OECD held up the UK to the rest of Europe as a shining example of the "flexible labour market" AKA insecure work www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10763216/UK-labour-market-an-example-to-rest-of-EU-OECD-chief.html

The EU isn't to blame for zero hours contracts. Globalisation of the labour market and UK government policy giving priority to employers over workes (not helped by the demise of trades unions) are to blame for them.

The good news is, there'll be loads more poorly paid jobs available if EU workers are no longer allowed to do them. BTW, that's a big if - do you really think businesses won't lobby to keep their low-paid European workers?

A lot of people whose lives are difficult did vote Leave, because they blame the EU for all those difficulties. In fact, most are caused by the UK government, globalisation and changes internal to the UK.

Take the example on the TV last night, filmed in Boston, Lincs. The item, and a resident, linked the closing of a bakery shop that had been run by three generations of the same family to the opening of an Eastern European delicatessen a few doors down. What, the already resident population had stopped going to the bakery and started buying their baked goods in the deli instead? No, the bakery closed for the same reason small shops have closed and are closing on high streets all over Britain - because the population now mainly shop in supermarkets like the Tesco or Asda superstores in Boston.

Most of the problems people are worried about are not caused by the EU, they will still exist outside it. Some may well get worse.

Notmymonkeysnotmycircus · 25/06/2016 08:54

Yeah well, you will be able to live with the implications of your decision for a long time, plenty of time to mull it over.

I work with a man who voted out because a bloke he dislikes in the pub wanted to remain so to annoy him he voted the opposite.

You'd swear it was a vote for Strictly or something. In future research the facts and make an INFORMED decision.

PattyPenguin · 25/06/2016 08:54

"zero" and "workers", obviously.

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fascicle · 25/06/2016 08:55

iniquity
The mn demographic might not find it a problem but clearly half the country does and not just the right wing.

You omit a key demographic - age. The majority in younger age groups voting to remain and the majority in older age groups voting to leave.

So younger people with many years ahead of them will have their future shaped by a decision most of them did not want, imposed upon them by older generations.

TweeterandtheMonkeyman · 25/06/2016 08:56

I wish I'd spoilt my paper as protest against the British public being used as pawns in a political game we don't really understand. We should've saving our vitriol for the politicians who put us in this situation

Hoppinggreen · 25/06/2016 08:58

I think a lot of people who voted leave thought they wouldn't win but it was a good opportunity to show the EU and David Cameron how they felt. I think they believed Remain would win me it would give us a stronger negotiation position in the EU.
I know it shouldn't be personal but I would have a hard time being civil to anyone I met today who told me they voted Leave

Notmymonkeysnotmycircus · 25/06/2016 09:02

I was amazed at the number of people that I spoke to who said that they voted to show DC how they felt. Simply a protest vote to the government. Fools.

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RaeSkywalker · 25/06/2016 09:04

I voted Remain and don't regret it.

If things go as badly as I think they will, I'd hope that the Leave voters would at least make a connection between any consequences (recession, higher prices, job losses, welfare cuts) and their votes. But of course they won't, they'll just find another group to blame once they're done blaming the EU.

I cannot believe that Leave won on "take back control", with no clarification of exactly what that means/ how it will be done.

Though I actually think a lot of Leavers will not care, even if they realise that their vote has led to misery for others. My uncle voted remain, and said that "things will be tough now, but better in the long term". Well that's all right for you to say at 70 years old, with your gold-plated final salary pension, and house with hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of equity in it because you bought when prices were far lower. What about your children, and your grandchildren? I have a friend who was given a letter yesterday saying he was likely to be made redundant. It's real and it's happening now.

GloriaGaynor · 25/06/2016 09:04

Huge amount of credit to you OP that you admit your mistake.

However, it is frankly terrifying that you voted leave on the basis of bullet points. Terrifying but representative, and the reason this referendum should never have been conceived.

mummatucker · 25/06/2016 09:06

I appreciate your honesty OP but quite frankly you're exactly the sort of person I'm so angry with today. How could you vote on such an uneducated basis? I'm guessing you didn't fully appreciate what is at stake?

There is far too much of this sentiment around. Deal with it and take ownership of your (poor) decision

LadyReuleaux · 25/06/2016 09:06

I admire the OP for saying that. The propaganda about the money was nonsense and made it sound like the EU just drained our money away.

It's like telling someone they could save £10K a year by deciding not to pay any taxes and go and live in the woods. Great, an extra 10K a year for me they say. But without mentioning that they then won't get the stuff their taxes pay for either, like schools, hospitals, bin lorries and safety laws.

But of course people believed it and when the Remain campaign said it was lies, they didn't believe that because everyone was just throwing propaganda about.

It's shocking that lots of people are regretting voting leave this soon after the result - like they didn't even really get what they were doing.

I definitely think the pollsters should do a poll and see what the result would be now.

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