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I regret the way I voted.

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lulucappuccino · 24/06/2016 23:58

After a long day reading Facebook (didn't announce on there that I'd voted out), colleagues talking and family (who do know how I voted) complaining, I really wish I'd voted to remain.

I read a few bullet point articles and felt swayed by the amount of money were were paying to the EU. But I feel as though I'd partly not researched enough and also believed the hype.

Seeing the pound falling and friends worried for their jobs etc, I feel as though I've done something really bad. In fact, I'm sure I have.

Does anyone else regret the way they voted, whichever way that was?

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dizzyfucker · 26/06/2016 08:59

What's done is done. Who knows, maybe this is what Britain needs. A massive wake up call. Britain is not what it was, it will never be what it was and chances are over the next coming years it will change significantly. Not all good, but not all bad either. Whatever comes out the other side will be fine.
Time to move forward now. I think the people should stop banging on about it.

A lot of leavers are clinging to the hope that Europe will disintegrate or that it's all just hype.
The worst could happen, Britain has always had the support of stronger countries like Germany and France. Now Britain's out on it's own. A rescession out of Europe will not be the same. I doubt the EU will dissolve either, or I hope it doesn't because that would plummet Europe backwards, Britain included. Some countries would not be able to ride it out with a significant knock on affect o everyone. I think it's likely Europe will start to change now. Some of the genuine problems highlighted by the leave campaign will be addressed.
Britain is divided and needs to stop all the blame and moan and start working on the new future. I voted remain but all the petitions and cartoons are getting annoying now. It's over

PlatoTheGreat · 26/06/2016 08:59

Actually what the article throwing linked to summurize things very well.

What the leave campaign wanted is to be part of the free market but not part of the EU, having the benefits on an economic scale whilst retaining 'some independance'. It has never been aboout leaving the EU altogether which what they have hinted again and again and again.
So all the things they have said to convince people (the savings, the NHS, the immigration) are actually completely not relevant because being in the free market means keeping all that but having no say in the politics of the EU, which means no power at all to influence decisions (and the U.K. Has had a LOT of influence there, much to the despair of other countries that wanted to move towards a political Europe much more quickly).

And maybe that's the point. I suspect this is exactely where DC wanted to Be anyway.

KERALA1 · 26/06/2016 09:02

Well we've no choice have we? You can't expect remainers to be pleased though. Too much to ask. I am still waiting to see what the big plan is. Lots of drivel about "sovereignty" and "getting the country back". What does this even mean in real terms?

Globetrotter100 · 26/06/2016 09:06

"Sovereignty" means our parliament is 100% responsible for the decision if and when to kick off Article 50.

sparechange · 26/06/2016 09:17

I've seen some spectacular bullshit on MN over the years but this from bengal takes the absolute biscuit;
"BTW no one who has a cardiac arrest on 16th floor or above has ever survived."

I think is also sums up the entire campaign.
Bengal is badly misquoting from a small Canadian study that looked into the survival rates of people having heart attacks in Toronto
In that study, around 3.8% of people survived, and that fell to under 1% for people living above 16th floor.

So the quote isn't even true of the study it is quoted from, let alone true for the UK, let alone true for anywhere outside of Toronto in the timeframe of the study.

But why let the facts get in the way of an alarmist headline, twisted from something factual to provide a shred of credibility.

Good grief, Bengal. Good grief.

KateInKorea · 26/06/2016 09:17

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dizzyfucker · 26/06/2016 09:29

Not really 100% because it can only be done once Britain has negotiated trade deals with 27 separate countries. The time those trade deals take is partly in the hands of those countries making them. Of course they have incentive to get them done quickly because Brexit is having an economic impact on Europe. The quicker Britain leaves now, the better it will be for everyone. The sovereign decision to drag this out until October could have severe consequences.
So Britain is facing a lot of outside political pressure. Ignoring political pressure because of "sovereignty" would be idiotic.

CFSKate · 26/06/2016 09:44

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3660294/May-Tory-stop-Boris-PM-poll-shows-emerges-1-1million-people-regret-voting-Leave.html

"The survey underlines the damage caused to the Remain cause by Mr Cameron’s failure to persuade the EU to agree to exempt the UK from EU freedom of movement rules. If he had done so, Remain would have won the referendum by a massive 49 per cent to 37, according to the survey."

throwingpebbles · 26/06/2016 09:56

He was never going to persuade them agree to that. And we won't get it now unless we want to be entirely isolationist (which would be idiocy)

Loletta · 26/06/2016 10:18

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UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 26/06/2016 10:33

1.1m people regret voting leave.

The fucking idiots. This is why the referendum was a very bad idea. Nick Cohen's article puts it beautifully.

I'm still reeling from so many things that have come out of this: frankly it is exemplified in the film of the women in the cafe dismissing Mark Carney's knowledge and experience with the sentence "but has he ever shopped in Sainsbury's?" Hmm Honestly, I totally despair.

The writing was on the wall - all the experts, all legitimate world leaders, ex-PMs, economists, decent politicians, financial experts, most business leaders, historians - all came out on Remain. People ignored them.

NavyAndWhite · 26/06/2016 10:37

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UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 26/06/2016 10:45

Mail on Sunday opinion poll. It's on the link posted by CFSKate.

NavyAndWhite · 26/06/2016 10:49

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GloriaGaynor · 26/06/2016 10:50

7% of 17,410,742 corresponds to over 1.2 million.

rookiemere · 26/06/2016 10:53

Perhaps less would have voted Leave if the bloody Daily Mail hadn't told them it was the right thing to do.

It should take some ownership for the hideous mess it has helped create rather than suddenly going all neutral and dispassionate about it. Rather like having an ill-conceived one night stand then trying to pretend it never happened.

They just wanted it to be a narrow enough margin so the Euro sceptics could keep banging on about it. Never thought they'd win. Well they have - perhaps Daily Mail could issue a front page apology to all it's readers for their pre-election stance.

SmallLegsOrSmallEggs · 26/06/2016 10:54

1.1 people who may not even have voted Leave allegedly say they regret it. And opinion polls have been so accurate.

Here have a pinch of salt.

If I were polled I might say I regret voting Leave in the hope of a 2nd referendum. Only I didn't vote Leave but I do regret than lots of people did.

That's the thing about a secret ballot.

BoboChic · 26/06/2016 10:54

Do you have a link to that article, Loletta?

GoudyStout · 26/06/2016 10:59

That Mail on Sunday poll also says that 4% regretted voting remain (nearly 700,000 people) though.

SmallLegsOrSmallEggs · 26/06/2016 11:00

Also did you note even if that poll were accurate (maybe just like the on the day yougov pollHmm) then the Leave regrets minus the Remain regrets still leave the vote at Leave.

So. No change.

I'd like a poll on how many people regret believing anything in the DMGrin

Loletta · 26/06/2016 11:13

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MarshaBrady · 26/06/2016 11:15

No as I voted remain. I understand why you feel as you do though.

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 26/06/2016 11:31

Well, we could take that poll with a pinch of salt - but it makes no difference. We're out - and what is abundantly clear is that many Leave voters did not realise, i) what exactly they were voting for, ii) that they were being blatantly lied to, or even more worryingly, iii) that a Leave vote would lead to us Leaving Hmm

There is no plan for exit, and there is nobody steering the ship. DC has resigned without triggering Article 50. The country is divided, far-right nationalism is on the rise, and our young people are now facing a future of economic and political instability, fewer opportunities for work and study, and probably a recession. Oh, and probably the break-up of the UK. Whoopee.

unlucky83 · 26/06/2016 11:36

Have skim read the thread. I voted out with absolutely no regrets - I knew what I was voting for and I think it is best for the long term future of the UK.
My DP is from another EU country and isn't white. My DCs are mixed race.
I am not worried.
As someone said up thread the pound dropped and then rallied, the stock market crashed and rallied (almost unbelievably well) the FTSE 100 ended 2% up on the week. The current value of the pound against the Euro is at a level higher than it was for the whole of 2013...
The EU funding etc isn't going anywhere for maybe up to 2 years. It was paid for by UK money anyway as we were a net contributor (put more in than we got out of the EU) so it can be exchanged for direct funding. (There probably will be some wobble on that as the economy stabilises -as it will....)
Project fear worked...stopped panicking. It will all be fine. The reality is nothing much will change.

Of course no remain voters will regret their vote (except maybe some in Scotland that voted remain to stop and indyref2) because they have no reason to.
And don't criticise leave voters for their ignorance - I have heard plenty of remainers come out with misguided rubbish.
DP came back from work yesterday having been told he would be deported - after living and paying tax here for longer than he lived in his home EU country and his DCs born here... property prices were going to crash - our house would be worthless and we should withdraw our savings from the bank to protect them...

We need to stop the hysteria -and the sour grapes and just get on with it...

BengalCatMum · 26/06/2016 11:49

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