I regret the way I voted.

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After a long day reading Facebook (didn't announce on there that I'd voted out), colleagues talking and family (who do know how I voted) complaining, I really wish I'd voted to remain.

I read a few bullet point articles and felt swayed by the amount of money were were paying to the EU. But I feel as though I'd partly not researched enough and also believed the hype.

Seeing the pound falling and friends worried for their jobs etc, I feel as though I've done something really bad. In fact, I'm sure I have.

Does anyone else regret the way they voted, whichever way that was?

Stillwish then that should tell you how desperate for change people here are. We have been screwed over again and again by each government. We have an influx of eu immigrants and no funding to our services to maintain them.

This whole campaign on both sides has been based on guess work, mistrust and emotion. Half of the country was always going to end up unhappy.

It is what it is, the postmortem is pointless. All any of us can hope for is a better future.

I was referring to your post of 14:18 about people being afraid for the future.

things can't get any worse for the valleys than they already are so I'll take that risk.

I can understand that but I think you're very wrong.

I hope not though.

Going back to the original post, it appears that a great many people regret voting Leave. From the look on Boris Johnson's face on Friday morning, it looked like he also regretted his role; he looked terrified (and obviously exhausted).
What a pity he too, like Farage, couldn't admit it was a huge mistake; that the NHS obviously won't get £300m a week; that the economic fallout will be catastrophic.
OP, don't feel bad. You made your decision based on what you heard. You have been lied to by men who don't care about the EU, only their own political careers.

They are calling the phenomena 'Bregret'

Here's what Cornwall want: (disclaimer, surely its satire??!!)

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-cornwall-issues-plea-for-funding-protection-after-county-overwhelmingly-votes-in-favour-of-a7101311.html

Ok, I understand that of course, the situation in the valleys ( and the NE- although I don't know that area) is terrible and has been for 30 years. They have been shortage areas for GP s for at least 20. But why does anyone think effectively voting in a right wing Tory government with the right to get rid of legislation which protects workers right's, at the same time as causing an almighty ecomonic recession would help ? Please explain it to me.

Wish, I also said I understand why people are worried as its a time of uncertainty. My point was its a bitter pill to swallow when people are acting as if the sky has fallen in when for many of us the reality is that our lives, futures, towns etc were shit anyway.

That doesn't mean I want the whole of the U.K. To be in the same boat.

Helmet all we can do now is wait and see.

My point was its a bitter pill to swallow when people are acting as if the sky has fallen in when for many of us the reality is that our lives, futures, towns etc were shit anyway. - I think most 'remainers' DO recognise that - but also recognise that without EU support and without a robust British economy things are likely to get far shittier.

Sorry cross posted. I obviously cant speak for the whole of Wales but for me personally (and I should point out I wasn't an automatic leave vote, was undecided until fairly recently) uncapped immigration is a huge issue. In a town which already has high unemployment and as you pointed out a shortage of gp's, underperforming schools and nursery places recently cut due to lack of places allowing more people in without addressing these issues is having a high effect on everybody.

Wales, no matter how we vote in a general election get stuck with whichever government England have voted in. This is the only opportunity in decades for us to have our voices heard.

The eu has provided funding for much of our manafacturing to be moved abroad.

Like I said earlier it's definitely a feeling of things can't get any worse for us so let's take a gamble.

Helmet I know it seems ridiculous and it is ridiculous, but Cornwall Council have nothing to do with the moronic decision of its residents. A few weeks ago Boris stood on the steps of his bus and declared unequivocally that Cornwall had nothing to fear in terms of lost funding, that Westminster would provide with equivalent. I know anyone with half a brain should have seen through this, but they didn't: they believed him.

Cornwall Council is mainly run by LibDems and independents, who were campaigning to stay, unlike Cornwall's halfwitted MPs.

Indeed, Pickled. It wasn't absolutely a vote about the Tories. Nonetheless, as per my original point, the undeniable effect of your vote has been to enable the policies of the Tories (or indeed, any other UK government of the future -just happens to be the Tories at the moment) to negatively impact further the lives, livelihoods and rights of people living in areas of social deprivation without financial or legal mitigation from Europe. I must confess that I am extremely surprised by Wales' failure to separate out its feelings of abandonment and anger with the UK government from the referendum. By any logical reckoning, it seems a suicidal move.

Boris stood on the steps of his bus and declared unequivocally that Cornwall had nothing to fear in terms of lost funding, that Westminster would provide with equivalent

My God. It gets worse and worse doesn't it.

Well, my proofreading certainly does....

The duplicity and the naivety of those who believed him of it actually makes me feel sick with anger.

pickledpears can you tell me why there are so many immigrants if it is such a deprived area economically - why are they there ? What are they doing there ?

The areas I know personally where there is high immigration (outside of London) are the agricultural areas where large numbers of young people come to work in the fields. The majority don't stay longterm. When I was growing up the locals did those jobs - they were always the lowest paid and lowest skilled. I am not sure why the locals don't do them any more - maybe you just can't earn enough to support a family and the immigrants aren't trying to do that.

And for what it is worth - I live in an arable area where there are virtually no migrants - but you still can't get a GPs appointment without waiting for 3 weeks.

Did Boris say that??? Well I hope Cornwall holds him to account.

Cornwall council has a webpage which states clearly - in words of one syllable- how much EU funding the region gets. I would have thought it obvious a post Brexit govt couldn't match that. We'll see.

this shows Merthyr Tydfil has (has in 2014) about 7% non British born population.

Genuinely interested in knowing what attracts immigrants to that area.

Therock I have absolutely no idea why out of the whole of the U.K. anybody would choose to come here.

There is a large meat processing plant which has a high number of immigrant workforce, apparently the immigrants will work longer hours for less money so are the preferred option for the company. the flip of the coin is that local people are lazy and won't work there. I don't know which, if either of these scenarios is true tbh, but both of these are statements I hear regularly.

I hope Cornwall county council remind Boris of this loudly and often now.

Cornwall council should keep spending and send the invoices to Boris. See what he does with them (hides it under the newspaper/ bins it 😂).
Same thing will happen to Wales when it loses the millions from the EU.

I think a lot of people on here have been misinformed either by relying on watching the news or reading biased papers like the sun & daily mail. It is your responsibility to question such reports and seek alternative sources of information in order to make an informed choice, I did and yes it's time consuming and yes I do work 5 days a week and have 3 children and am a single parent so have responsibility for all things domestic,so it wasn't easy. However I realised that this referendum was not like playing the lottery or buying a scratch card,it was a real proper grown up thing in which we were given the privilege to have a say.
Those of you who regret your vote should be ashamed,you let yourselves and the country down and you can't make it all better with latent apologies,but instead will have to live with the consequences,as will we all. Those of you who 'didn't bother as it was all a fix or a foregone conclusion' should also hang your heads.
Whilst elections are every 5 years, this was a once in a lifetime opportunity-did you honestly not realise the enormity of the responsibility you had? I find it difficult to comprehend that people even did this,let alone are admitting to it.
If you did vote,however,which ever way and it was based on an informed choice,this is not aimed at you,though I would say don't trust all you read or hear in the future,after all,the very morning the vote closed promises were retracted!

Cornwall council has a webpage which states clearly - in words of one syllable- how much EU funding the region gets. I would have thought it obvious a post Brexit govt couldn't match that. We'll see

People are generally lazy and incurious though. They don't want to go away and actually have to load a website to search for impartial information. They'd prefer to hear catchy lies rhetoric and spin. Cornwall Council has its own problems in terms of engagement with the public. In 2009 there was a referendum to decide whether to abolish the regional councils and have a unitary authority. Over 90% voted to keep things as they were, yet the unitary authority went ahead anyway. That's one reason why the Cornish distrust their council.

I'm pretty pissed off that the remain campaign was so weak. It's easier to blame NHS waiting times, lack of GPs and jobs on bogeyman immigrants when in fact it is a failure of government, cuts and taxes dodged. Cameron and Osbourne of course couldn't say that and Corbyn is either too quiet or largely ignored by a shit media.

I don't think you can blame Remain. There was plenty of expert opinion disucussing what would happen. Gove said the (great) British public was bored of experts.

I spoke to various West Country Brexiteers about the amount of money places like Cornwall received & they weren't interested.

If people were stupid enough to believe the crap people like Boris spouted it's up to them to hold him & his fellow campaigners to account.

Well prickledpears you may not have wanted things to be shit for everyone but that's what you're going to achieve with your vote. You wanted things to be different without any plan as to how this was going to be achieved by a government that will be no longer shackled by those tiresome regulations from the EU about workers' rights. They can promise all they like to maintain EU funding but it's going to be the first thing to go when the economy goes down the pan. You're not sure whether local people are too lazy to work in the local factory, but you want to get rid of the immigrants just in case. Marvellous.

MP Nigel Evans is saying that the policy of the Leave campaign is not to reduce immigration, but to control it.

By which I am sure he means allow in all the workers businesses demand. In which case the meat-packers, distribution centre pickers and agricultural workers won't be leaving.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36629300

Nigel Evans is a Conservative MP for the Ribble Valley, but comes originally from Swansea.