I regret the way I voted.

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After a long day reading Facebook (didn't announce on there that I'd voted out), colleagues talking and family (who do know how I voted) complaining, I really wish I'd voted to remain.

I read a few bullet point articles and felt swayed by the amount of money were were paying to the EU. But I feel as though I'd partly not researched enough and also believed the hype.

Seeing the pound falling and friends worried for their jobs etc, I feel as though I've done something really bad. In fact, I'm sure I have.

Does anyone else regret the way they voted, whichever way that was?

My family has been torn apart by it.

I also work in a university and 27 EU applicants dropped out yesterday.
We had to close down a few of our university departments because we dont have the numbers to keep them open now.
(EU applicants arent the only thing keeping departments open, however, as this is worldwide and people have seen the childishness of it, a lot of people have opted to study elsewhere.)
So yes, now that there is less need for people in departments, my job may be at risk too.
Thanks! really.

you really think I should justify myself to you? Are you important? Why should your opinion matter to me?

We all had the same facts and figures available to us for us to make up our own minds didn't we.

Springer, the constitution in other countries make them legally binding. The EU referendum legislation did not include any provision for it to be legally binding in the UK. So it is advisory. Nonetheless the government has a moral obligation, given the high turnout and clear win, to take the advice.

Gloria that's more press babble

Moody's is a credit rating service, part of Moody's Corporation. Not the press.

Yes I'm aware of that but the quote is from the press who cherry pick what they want to say.
Such as the BBC reporting the pound all day yet actually it was only affected for about an hour, as people working in the financial sector have stated.

Not if the Tory government stays on and Cameron is replaced by a Leaving leaning leader.

I've been thinking about this and I'm actually not so sure. Having a Leave campaigner take over as PM, then going to negotiate a better deal with the EU that he claims is so good he has changed his position would 100% ensure a second referendum results in a decisive remain result. Remain voters would still vote to Remain, Leave voters with buyers remorse would switch to Remain regardless of what is negotiated with the EU. But many Leave voters who feel ok right now would be swayed over by a former Leave campaigner saying this new deal is worth staying for. And if a second referendum is won by a significant percentage of Remain voters it gives legitimacy to the argument for holding a second referendum.

Remember, people don't get into high level government positions without being bloody sneaky. And they've fucked up with this campaign, they'll pull out all the stops to fix it. Yesterday was shocking, but I'll lay odds that history remembers it as a wake up call that nearly ended the EU, but ultimately brought us all closer together. Just like Denmark's rejection of Maastricht, Ireland's rejection of Nice and Lisbon all have been relegated to footnotes of history, rather than game changers.

Moose 27 applicants is a drop in the ocean. I know it seems scary because everyone for some reason has panicked but the reality is somewhat different.

Op I can't imagine your FB page is filled with comments from anyone with an ounce (no more grams?) of sense. We tend to mix with those who are similar to ourselves after all...

Grow up and stop whining. You voted without thinking about it. You're hardly alone and as NO ONE really knows the long term effects yet stop being so over dramatic.

Personally I voted OUT and feel a sense of optimism I have not had for years. Of course there will be some who lose out but I believe long term the right decision has been made.

Now I shall just wait and watch all the spiteful comments roll in! (Nah, I won't bother...)

Moose boots I'm sorry to hear that - I hope you've found pears comment that it'll be fine in the long term and 2much comment that it's just people flapping and scaremongering, very reassuring.

Springer In the UK parliament is always sovereign.

Springer I think you are probably right.

I checked the Moody's rate announcement.

They downgraded the rating for the UK. Although it's still in the top rating, long term, they have serious concerns and the outlook is negative.

They do explain all their concerns in the release.

1. The majority vote in favour of leaving the European Union (EU) (Aaa, Stable) in the referendum held on 23 June will herald a prolonged period of uncertainty for the UK, with negative implications for the country's medium-term growth outlook. During the several years in which the UK will have to renegotiate its trade relations with the EU, Moody's expects heightened uncertainty, diminished confidence and lower spending and investment to result in weaker growth. Over the longer term, should the UK not be able to secure a favourable alternative trade arrangement with the EU and other countries, the UK's growth prospects would be materially weaker than currently expected.

1. While the UK's institutional framework will not change, Moody's considers that policy predictability and effectiveness of economic policy-making -- an important aspect of institutional strength - might be somewhat diminished as a consequence of the vote. The UK government will not only need to negotiate the UK's departure from the EU but will likely also aim to embark on significant changes to the UK's immigration policy, broader trade policies and regulatory policies. While we consider the UK's institutional strength to be very high, the challenges for policymakers and officials will be substantial.

1. As a consequence of the weaker GDP growth outlook and institutional strength, the UK's public finances will also likely be weaker than Moody's has assumed so far. In Moody's view, the negative effect from lower economic growth will outweigh the fiscal savings from the UK no longer having to contribute to the EU budget. The UK government has one of the largest budget deficits among advanced economies, and lower GDP growth will further complicate the implementation of the government's multi-year fiscal consolidation plan. Consequently, the public debt ratio will likely remain higher than the rating agency previously expected.

Please understand that when i say 27 applicants, that was just in one day, and thats just all that we know of,
You seemed to have missed the point that we closed down departments and therefore have had to cut back on jobs. IN ONE DAY.

Nonetheless the government has a moral obligation, given the high turnout and clear win, to take the advice.

I'm sorry but I actually lolled at that. Have you ever, ever heard of a government that did what it didn't want to do and didn't have to do because of moral obligation? If it was in a children's story book it doesn't count. Come on, people can't really be this naive??????

I understand people being terrified or delighted yesterday. But in the cold light of morning haven't people had time to reflect on what has happened in every similar situation before and realised what is most likely to happen again?

Who has told you that would be the case? Cameron is staying until October, and there will be a leadership contest starting very soon.

If George leaves (which sadly I think he won't, he has the skin of a rhino and also has his eye on the PM job) Cameron would replace him. George did not land that job because of his skills with maths and economics, he got the job because he was Cameron' mate and couldn't make a living as a journalist.

So don't worry. When/if they leave, they will be replaced and quite possibly by people who are not as shit.

The ignorance and naivety in this post horrifingly characteristic. Cameron has resigned. He is nominally 'in charge' until October until he will be replaced by someone who, as yet, has not shown the leadership skills to lead the party.

George has gone to ground and may resign soon, holding onto his job will be very difficult in the circumstances. If you think Cameron of all people will replace him you are laughably misled.

Whom of the Tories do you think will be 'less shit', Boris Johnson? Theresa May?

I don't have to back anything up. I said i think it'll be better for our future didn't I, not I guarantee our future will be better because I don't have a crystal ball as you pointed out.

I had my reasons for voting leave, based both on facts and the realities of coming from a seriously deprived area due to the destruction of British industry.

The time for comparing facts and figures has passed. We are leaving.

Ah ok Moose I misinterpreted what you mean. I thought you meant it closed temporarily while the knee jerk reaction set in and once the panick died down in a day or two (like the pound etc) it would be back up and running and business as usual.

Yes I'm aware of that but the quote is from the press who cherry pick what they want to say

The quote is from Moody's, the media have a duty to report the facts.

Such as the BBC reporting the pound all day yet actually it was only affected for about an hour, as people working in the financial sector have stated

So basically you don't understand the long term implications at all, and you think that a recovered dip in the pound yesterday means everything's fine?

Oh yeah, now pickledpears has given an opinion it's all fine. I'll just ignore the fact that my husbands's company is blocking recruitment in London and moving to mainland Europe. Don't need any facts. Just their 'feeling' that it's all going to be better. I've asked for views from leavers as to what they're going to do with this sovereignty they're wrestling back. Zilch. More money for NHS, oh er no, we're going back on that. Um, yeah, that's about it. Oh and I don't have to justify myself to you. Absolutely-bloody-marvellous. You've sold our kids futures down the river for vague feelings. Well thanks for that.

A deprived area like Wales or Cornwall who are now bizarrely hoping someone else jumps in to give them Millions of aid?
Brilliant.

justasking I gave my opinion on if I regret my vote. Like I said the facts have been there for us all to see.

Our kids futures? In my home town the kids have no futures unless they move, that's been the reality for decades there. Which is why Wales overwhelmingly voted out for change, for our kids to have a future.

So excuse me if I can't get worked up about the future of your kids.

Juncker conciliatory?
Are you serious!?
He HATES us
He will make this as hard as he can - it's personal for him.
DC tried to block his election to his post
He won't forgive and forget