To point out that not ALL people who voted leave are racist

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I'd describe myself as extreme left. I voted leave because the EU's undemocratic. Today I wake up to ALL of my Facebook posting statuses about how they feel sick etc. all my friends are liberal, some of them would hate me if they knew. But if I was asked outright I'd probably be honest. I've made new friends recently who would definitely never speak to me again if they knew though. I feel like everyone who voted leave has been branded a racist. I feel uncomfortable that probably lots of them are sad I feel very uneasy being lumped in with them and might come to regret my decision

Posted this elsewhere but in need of some hand holding I think! Or maybe someone who feels the same way? Anyone?

We don't vote on everything in the U.K. so OP I hope you're not under the illusion that there is some sort of legitimate democracy scrutiny behind every single policy change that the uk govt makes. The EU has tackled areas such as exploitative labour laws and occupational ill health amongst other things. We have input into these decisions and most of the time the EU gets it right.

If it helps you understand why different people have differnt views to you then crack on but your deluding yourself.

I've never know such bizzare assumptions that millions have people are 'brain washed' or 'uneducated' because they have differnt views to other people. It really is bigotry.

I've never know such bizzare assumptions that millions have people are 'brain washed' or 'uneducated' because they have differnt views to other people. It really is bigotry.

Maybe people think they're uneducated because they can't put together a coherent sentence in grammatical English?

Or (from another thread) they think Norway is part of the EU?

Oh dear, my first ever snarky comment on another poster's grammar. Might be time for a cup of tea.

Making an already densely populated area subject to building even more housing with a direct effect on the services and quality of life because BORIS decided so isn't really open to interpretation, is it?

Marie Le Pen - not just a card-carrying member of the French National Front, but the leader of the French National Front - has apparently changed her profile to a union jack, that's how proud she is of Britain's result.

Yeah, you know you've made a good decision when Le Pen, Putin, Trump and Farage are celebrating

Now there's a lift I wouldn't want to get stuck in...

"Yup. People don't complain that all the uk civil service workers aren't elected."

Exactly this. Those going on about democracy never complain about faceless bureaucrats in Whitehall or the unelected lords. Democracy my arse!

To be fair I do know at least one racist who voted Remain, because ultimately she was more worried about hanging on to her pension than indulging her contempt for non-British people.

I don't know any non-racists who voted Leave. Even if I hated the EU, I would abstain rather than vote for Britain First.

I am nor racist - daughter of an immigrant (who worked hard her whole life and contributed in the last 50 years since she moved here).

I am really angry to be called a racist. This is supposed to be a democratic country. I am entitled to my vote!

Why? Did someone stop you from voting? You should report that if so.

Some people really seem to be having trouble understanding the word 'democratic'. 'Democratic' doesn't mean that people can't disagree with you, or can't challenge you, or suspect that some Leave voters are racists.

Some leavers seem more bothered about being accused of racism than they are about the actual racism issuing forth from their fellow leavers.

Not all. Just some.

Several economists from the Wall Street Journal and Financial Times have all separately given rather similar viewpoints which I think are interesting. They acknowledged the fear mongering and xenophobia used by the Leave campaign but also noted:

"The better reaction would be to ask 'why did the British leave? How can we reform?' The challenge for Brussels is going to be 'Are we going to draw any lessons from this other than the British are peasants and deserve to suffer?' If European countries say 'we can't have these discussions, we must unblinkingly approve of everything the EU does', that will strengthen the far right groups because voters will say 'the only people who are telling the truth about Europe are these nationalistic parties.' The purpose of the EU was never to create a superstate, a 'European' nationality. The world is enriched by different cultures and different viewpoints, and those need to be respected. If Europe continues to suppress democratic dissent, democratic discourse, democratic voices from expressing displeasure at the way the EU is operating they will be fueling a fire on the fringes of society that will lead to the opposite result of what Europe is supposed to be about."

I voted to remain but something to think about. Clearly Westminster and London are out of touch with a large part of the country. The derision with which Leave voters are being treated today shows that they are partly right: no one is listening to their concerns. So it pushes otherwise moderate voters towards the only people who ARE willing to listen. I'm sure many Leave voters would prefer a politician who listened to them and wasn't a bigot, but right now, that's all they have to work with. If anything positive comes out of this it's that there's a chance for someone moderate to champion the causes of 52% of the nation in a way that doesn't fan the flames of nationalism.

I agree OP. A girl I know branded us all xenophobic arseholes. Another one said that anyone who voted leave should 'fuck off and never speak to her again'. So I have.

I agree OP. A girl I know branded us all xenophobic arseholes. Another one said that anyone who voted leave should 'fuck off and never speak to her again'. So I have.

I'm sure that 52% of the population is not racist. However, I think something has been unleashed now. I was shocked to see members of the public interviewed on the news yesterday ranting about "sending them all home". A Channel 4 reporter in Barnsley tweeted that within the space of five minutes three people had shouted "send them home" at his camera. I haven't heard this sort of thing since the early 1980s. It's only a matter of time before mainstream politicians offer "sending them home" as an election pledge, a la Enoch Powell. I've heard several people say that migrants who are already here won't be made to leave. I wish I could be so sure. BoJo said yesterday that the result would take the wind out of the extremists' sails. On the contrary, I think they will become more emboldened and more popular, especially once the economic consequences of Brexit make people poorer.

Broken1Girl what an ignorant and offensive post. Reported.

Unfortunately OP you are judged by the company you keep. I wish there had been more voices like yours during the campaign but you cannot deny that MOST people who voted with you didn't do it in line with your lofty ideals. You made a deal with the devil. Do you think leave want justice for refugees - it's laughable. That is not the constituency that have Leave the win and you have to start to face what you have done and who you got into bed with. Do not think that your vote has not moved this country to the right - so well done on that. Your flag flying for greater social justice won't be the one that prevails in this scenario- I think you realize this. You made an alliance with the worst most racist and Ill informed members of our society - so just deal with it when Farage is in power

I think it's fair to say that people with racist tendencies would have voted out but how many voted because of this is hard to say.

A lot of people didn't know what they were voting for. They just go with what they are told. I know someone who did a quiz on FB and voted out becomes that said she was slightly more out than in. She had no idea if this quiz was independent or loaded with questions to make the result that way. She basically voted out based on social media.

Now that to me is another example of why you should not give fundamental decisions like this to unelected people. This should have been an mp vote. Isn't what they are elected for?

Basically as always with the self serving Tory party they in fight and try to please each other. This one has spectacularly backfired.

Leave won because it was a blank canvas. Well you are in for a shock when 'your' reason doesn't happen.

At present nothing has changed. Immigration unchanged. Only things that have are lower exchange rates (more expensive holiday), lower equities (lower pension), and I have to watch grinning racist idiots cheering on my tv.