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Secret government cables leak in full showing government to give Turkey visa free access to the UK

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BritBrit · 13/06/2016 07:09

Despite David Cameron & Theresa May denying this only yesterday the cables have now leaked in full showing the UK government is in fact planning to give millions of Turks visa free access to the UK.

What possible reason could David Cameron have to deny it!!

order-order.com/2016/06/12/read-turkey-cables-in-full/

Secret government cables leak in full showing government to give Turkey visa free access to the UK
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RedToothBrush · 15/06/2016 13:48

I think the question I'm now dying to ask is 'What would Captain Jack Sparrow do?'

misses point and dives off into the land of fantasy

SoThisIsSummer · 15/06/2016 13:52

Turkey is in strong position. EU in weak position. We are being held to ransom, I would be cautious whatever these cables do or dont say.

SoThisIsSummer · 15/06/2016 13:55

The thing is that mass immigration doesn't come in a vacuum, it comes as part of a bigger package that has generally benefited the UK. You can't dissociate one from the other

Generally benefited who?

The great swathes of Labour heartlands who are now reportedly going to vote, the people who don't have much in life and who have been shat on by their so called Party?

Or the people Frank Field talks about in impoverished Birkenhead?

"a most crucial issue here is the impact of uncontrolled immigration on our most disadvantaged citizens.
It is the poorest in our communities, those whose choices in life are already by far the most restricted, whose standard of living is most adversely affected by the arrival of a record number of newcomers"

SoThisIsSummer · 15/06/2016 13:55
  • vote LEAVE
SoThisIsSummer · 15/06/2016 13:57

then it should be spent on public services in high-immigration areas, not on tax cutS

there should be any "high immigration areas"!! Who the hell wants to live in tightly packed, over populated areas, with no services and HMOS which are not regulated or properly classified as such, its the wild west out there in the real world.

Awful! High immigration areas indeed. Angry

SoThisIsSummer · 15/06/2016 13:58

*nt - should not ....

Chalalala · 15/06/2016 14:00

Generally benefited who?

I suggest you read the rest of the paragraph, as I go on to make the exact same point you do.

NeckguardUnbespoke · 15/06/2016 14:46

Sadly, this debate is irrelevant.

Unless there's a miracle, we're going to lose.

Our campaign consists of calling our opponents stupid, ignorant, old and dishonest, with a leavening of calling them racism available in case we haven't sneered enough.

Here's Polly Toynbee in the Guardian:

Here were the two irreconcilable faces of Labour, eager young London graduates on the phone making scant headway with older traditional voters of Nottingham,

That's the tone of our campaign right there. "I'm with young graduates from London, and the idiots up north don't know what's good for them, even though we've told them it's great in Hoxton". That "traditional" is just a sneer, it's "get with it, daddio, us hepcats love the new sounds". That's the whole tone: "never mind your own interests, a small number of us in London knows what's right, tough shit if you don't agree".

Those "older traditional voters" (as opposed to the "eager young London graduates" whose eagerness won't extend to actually voting) are going to hand Polly's arse to her on a plate. I don't agree with their votes or the outcome, but I absolutely understand their sentiment. "Stop treating us like shit, eager young London graduates, and then we can talk. Until then, anything that hurts you is OK by me".

The next week is going to consist of wankers like Eddie Izzard and people with "Loser" stamped through them like Gordon Brown campaigning for Leave. Yes, I know they think they're campaigning for Remain, but every time they open their mouths, votes pour into the Leave pile. We don't have a single attractive voice, or a single attractive argument, which isn't basically Jez and Quinn from "It's Grim Up North London" sounding off about lovely patisserie and how diverse it is in Islington, and every time that starts, people from north of Watford vote "leave" just to wipe the smug grins off their faces.

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