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Operation Black Vote racist poster? yes bit because its against whites it doesn't matter

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laurenwiltxx · 26/05/2016 11:55

Ive attached the picture of "operation black votes poster". I found it offensive and think that if shoe was on the other foot, there would probably be nationwide protests and a lawsuit. Why is it that when things target white people nothing is ever said?

Operation Black Vote racist poster? yes bit because its against whites it doesn't matter
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sixinabed · 26/05/2016 20:55

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RedToothBrush · 26/05/2016 22:04

All advertising aims to get noticed and talked about - seems like this poster does that. No publicity is bad publicity and all that.

Are we just into Trump-vertising now? Nothing else works, gets a message across or makes a point well enough as everyone's too stupid or lazy or ignorant to cope with anything more than 140 characters?

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ReallyTired · 26/05/2016 22:22

I would have like.a white judge or a policeman in the seesaw.

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2016 22:22

Indeed it has, but I also think its got lazier because its viewed as more acceptable to shock, as long as its in the name of publicity.

Twitter has made it harder to be shocking and its the chosen medium of abuse.

sixinabed · 26/05/2016 22:40

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SoupDragon · 26/05/2016 23:00

...just as not all BAME people are small Asian women.

That doesn't make it OK to have chosen a racist thing for the white person.

SoupDragon · 26/05/2016 23:00

I don't think it is racist though. I think it's using an offensive stereotype.

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Lweji · 26/05/2016 23:26

I would have like.a white judge or a policeman in the seesaw.

Why?
They are not the vocal ones in most elections. That, to me is the point of the poster. A quiet voter vs a shouty angry one.
This is from the point of view of non-white people, so it makes some sense that it's a white angry voter, who in recent times is more likely to be shouting about controlling immigration and the Muslim danger.

The posters are not about institutional racism. They are about elections and why people should vote.

One with the police and judges would have to be different.

MooPointCowsOpinion · 26/05/2016 23:34

I liked the poster. She has the same weight as him. I get it, I didn't see it as white-racist, but then I dont believe that's a real thing.

I found the comment about it infantilising people of colour interesting though. I want to know more about what makes people vote and why white people have a higher turn out rate, as it's obviously a complex issue.

Kummerspeck · 26/05/2016 23:38

I saw this earlier today and felt very uncomfortable about it. I hope they didn't pay too much for that as it is simply regurgitating lazy stereotypes. I think they would not have dared use such an offensive stereotype of any race other than white and far prefer the alternative poster someone posted upthread.

The other reason I object to it is that I am tired of Bremain supporters insinuating that those supporting Brexit must be racists. I think that is becoming the lazy way to shut down discussion, accuse your opponent of being racist or xenophobic. Saatchi and Saatchi have tried to tap into that and, overall, I feel it probably is offensive

fakenamefornow · 26/05/2016 23:43

If the poster is about power and equality in our vote a judge or business person would be a much better image. White working class men are actually doing very badly in the UK at the moment and don't have much privilege at all.

there are less BAME citizens registered to vote than white citizens.

Why is that? I would be surprised if it was much to do with white racists thugs.
Do BAME people have a younger age profile than the white British population? What other reasons are there? I believe BAME people are less likely to be blood or organ donor as well, why is that?

fakenamefornow · 26/05/2016 23:50

the thing is racist thugs are all white

I think ISIS is full of racist thugs, most of them not white.

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RedToothBrush · 27/05/2016 00:11

such an offensive stereotype of any race other than white

There is a feeling of alienation and marginalisation in white working class males. Its one of the biggest drivers of the UKIP vote in the first place.

This is feeding that feeling, thus being part of a vicious circle rather than stopping the issue of people feeling imitated. Which kind of defeats the entire point to me.

Why say people feel too intimated to vote whilst at the same time, use a representation which might throw fuel on the fire of that disquiet and actually make that type of behaviour feel more justified as they have been 'victimised and a target of racist stereotyping'?

It makes no sense.

fourmummy · 27/05/2016 07:21

It's a disgraceful poster. The woman is represented solely in terms of her race thereby reproducing the notion that BAME people only have issues of 'race', 'diversity', and 'white privilege' in their heads, rendering them useless at anything other discussion. It similarly narrows the representation of 'white' or 'Brexit' to a tiny minority who are Britain First - and then expands this outwards to, presumably, all Brexiters/all who are white? Utter shite. How about a poster showing a line of people of different professions (a doctor with a stethoscope around their neck) and roles (such as mothers or carers), who happen to be of different (dis)abilities and ethnicities, all discussing trade, democracy, education, science, technology, etc.?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 27/05/2016 07:23

The poster isn't for Brexit is it? Just for voting.

fakenamefornow · 27/05/2016 07:45

It's a disgraceful poster.

I agree, it's inviting the viewer to make lots of assumptions about the people on both ends of the seesaw, racist stereotyping both of them.

fourmummy · 27/05/2016 07:49

But then, the S & S method is to produce shite and then have people discuss its shiteness. I, personally therefore won't discuss this any further Smile

Woodhill · 27/05/2016 08:15

Yes but the white person looks menacing and unpleasant but the lady looks all sweetness and light, dreadful. Can you imagine the outcry if the roles were reversed.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 27/05/2016 08:37

What, if women from ethnic minorities had a history of intimidating white men? No, you're right, I can't imagine that. Weird isn't it.

SoupDragon · 27/05/2016 09:24

What, if women from ethnic minorities had a history of intimidating white men? No, you're right, I can't imagine that. Weird isn't it.

How about if they had the woman dressed as an ISIS extremist? Not so hard to imagine that and to imagine the outcry is it?

It's all about not using unnecessary nasty stereotypes. The vast majority of white people are not racist thugs. This poster could easily have been done without being offensive twats.

SoupDragon · 27/05/2016 09:25

I don't have a problem with a campaign to encourage ethnic minorities to vote - it's a very important issue. However, there's no need to be twats about it.

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