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Ethical dilemmas

Councils are moving care home residents to save money – and endangering lives

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HollyhocksandPeons · 26/07/2026 17:46

Councils are moving care home residents to save money – and endangering lives

Don't know what to say - just wanted to flag it up. Heart breaks, literally.

Source: Councils are moving care home residents to save money – and endangering lives

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/general/councils-are-moving-care-home-residents-to-save-money-and-endangering-lives/ar-AA28Iajy?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=bc894d704af94e8ad161a9310f6cd116&ei=5

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Whatmesurelynot · 27/07/2026 13:54

My very elderly dad died last weekend. He died within a week of going into hospital from a stroke. Prior to hospital he had lived at home was mentally ok slightly slower but definitely ok. He and the family made it clear that the doctors were not to try and extend his life as dragging on with no quality of life is miserable. He had the death one would wish for someone they love. The staff in hospital seemed pathetically grateful that we were all so sensible about tjings and not raging about keeping him alive no matter what.

PocketSand · 27/07/2026 15:32

@Mcdhotchocif your mother lacks awareness the quality of care becomes ever more important. We seem to have a viewpoint that there are retirement homes for the self funding population whereas in reality those who are self funding need care. And still need care when funding runs out. The issue is that vulnerable people requiring care that were previously self funded are forced to move with no regard to need. As if moving from a fancy hotel to a B&B with no consideration of care needs.

RockinCara · 27/07/2026 16:21

Whatmesurelynot · 27/07/2026 13:54

My very elderly dad died last weekend. He died within a week of going into hospital from a stroke. Prior to hospital he had lived at home was mentally ok slightly slower but definitely ok. He and the family made it clear that the doctors were not to try and extend his life as dragging on with no quality of life is miserable. He had the death one would wish for someone they love. The staff in hospital seemed pathetically grateful that we were all so sensible about tjings and not raging about keeping him alive no matter what.

I’m really sorry for your loss.

Both my parents died in hospital. My dad was quite badly let down by them imo, and should have made it home. But that’s another thread. However there wasn’t any question of them keeping either of them alive longer than they thought. Quite the opposite if anything. My active, independent father was pretty much written off because he was 80.

unsync · 27/07/2026 16:23

Thiscantgoonlikethis · 27/07/2026 08:07

@Louglei agree! I saw one care home which had a barista and beautiful grounds, but the care offered could not hold a candle to the one on local authority rates which went above and beyond. In my experience.

My family member was in a fabulous home with facilitieslike this at end of life. The care was also outstanding (CQC rated this too). I would be happy to go there myself. It is run by people with nursing backgrounds who really care about the residents and their families. There's absolutely no reason why all homes can't be like this, you just need the right people in place. It shouldn't be such a lottery.

Rather than reinventing the wheel, we should look to other countries to see how they fund and operate their care services. Same for the NHS, the whole thing needs joining back up.

There are too many cracks that people fall through, especially with dementia care. I still don't understand how a degenerative illness is classed as social care when it is a medical condition that requires nursing care as it progresses.

lisaloo88 · 27/07/2026 18:06

Yetone · 26/07/2026 18:59

Yes, relative had to show 18 months of fees before they were allowed in.

We used to have a rule of 2 years minimum but then it became a scramble of getting anyone in for the shareholders to show how many new residents we had so that rule flew out of the window until we were full, money money money

TwinklySquid · 27/07/2026 20:55

I don’t think it fair for the council to pay/top up an expensive home while others are sent to the cheaper homes . Otherwise people would send relatives the expensive homes for a few months knowing when they can’t afford it, the council will top up.

Mcdhotchoc · 28/07/2026 19:14

We all know what we want but life ain't like that.
My Mum was fit and well and independent. Had a heart bypass at 78. That was a mistake cos no doubt all the cholesterol clogging up her heart was already creating vascular dementia.
She had about another 2 years of her old life, followed by 4 semi decent years in independent living flat.
Had to move her into care due to dementia and falling. A year on, she is still continent and is still just about there. The care is good, great food, stimulating activities every day and she is not in the full dementia unit. She refused any further treatment when they found an ovarian cyst. And was very clear that once she had dementia, she wanted no medical interventions. But does that include the flu jab for example?
The only thing I have learned is that if I am offered bypass surgery in my late 70s I will refuse. I assume that the heart and brain would have given out at the same time.

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