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Elderly parents

Resentment of what parents did with their inheritance has wrecked our relationship

426 replies

MalePoster9000 · 24/07/2024 12:52

Parents are late 70s. I’m mid-40s.

I could go into details but it might be outing.

Anyway my mother always says “family is everything” but this has really not been reflected in any decisions / actions she and my father took with all that they inherited and didn’t need from the generation above them.

Anyone experience anything similar?

OP posts:
urbanbuddha · 24/07/2024 16:35

(although the misandrist ‘INCEL’ comments are totally uncalled for).

Not quite. OP thinks his mother took 11 years “off work” while she was raising two children. Not really reading the room on a site called ‘Mumsnet’.

DullFanFiction · 24/07/2024 16:37

poppymango · 24/07/2024 16:27

There are plenty of extraordinarily wealthy people who have made it very clear that they intend to leave not a single penny to their children. They do this precisely because they love their kids and want them to learn to work hard and stand on their own two feet, rather than being lazy and entitled and having everything handed to them.

You seem to have interpreted “family is everything” to mean “you never need to work because we will give you everything”.

You see my parents would probably the types to say that.
Along side comments about how people with depression just need to get on with it and many comments about benefit scroungers.

And then there is me.
Who is disabled. Will never be able to work again.
Id have loved to feel comfortable enough to ask for support. But I don’t. So I dont ask. And I struggle instead.

So all the talk about ‘standing in your two feet’ and ‘learning to work hard’ (and one that my dad loves ‘well if they are poor, that’s their problem. Not everyone can have everything’) has a reverse.
And that having your child, that you can help and would actually be happy to help, not asking for help instead.
And I know they’d be horrified if they knew.
But I can’t bring myself to ask. Because fir 40 years, all I’ve heard is how important it is to stand on your own two feet and to not ask anything from your parents.

Newbutoldfather · 24/07/2024 16:38

@urbanbuddha ,

INCEL is an acronym about bitter involuntary celibate men who resent womankind of depriving them of their god-given right to a shag.

The OP may hate his parents, but may have a great sex life. More importantly, we don’t know either way and it is not what this thread is about.

Chewbecca · 24/07/2024 16:38

It's up to you to make your own way in life. Such a waste of your energy being bitter about someone else's past decisions that, presumably, were right for them at the time. You really need to find a way to redirect these thoughts and energies into making the best of your own life, independent of your parents.

Perhaps some therapy might help you process your feelings and move on?

I am also in the camp of being happy to see my parents enjoying their retirement. If / when that time comes, I will aim to get them the into the best care home I can, even if it spends every last penny they have. It's theirs.
As for me, we aim to spend as much of our savings and investments as we can, mostly on needless redecoration and cruises. If we have the whole value of our house left to leave to our 3 DC, great, if some or all of it is also spent, so be it.

I do agree with you that your parents remaining assets at the second death should be split 50/50 between you and your sibling.

urbanbuddha · 24/07/2024 16:39

@Newbutoldfather

We know he doesn’t have a great sex life because he’s moaned about being single.
If he was having a great sex life he wouldn’t be bemoaning his single status.

Josette77 · 24/07/2024 16:41

You sound like you have a severe victim complex.

I was put into care as a child along with my siblings although we were separated.

I have Disassociation disorder due childhood sexual abuse.

I'm also a 46 yo woman who is responsible for myself.

I have a child with complex special needs and I am responsible for my own finances and happiness.

You have a massive sense of entitlement.

The fact you even have parents to move in with on your 40's is pretty amazing. Plus you pay no rent.

You need to volunteer somewhere and do something that reminds you how lucky you are.

You need to stop blaming everyone else for your life choices.

fedupwithbeingcold · 24/07/2024 16:42

You have a degree, higher education and you've had plenty of opportunities to do something with your life. Stop being sorry for yourself and do something.

I'm 54, single and partially deaf. I live in a small town, and this has not stopped me working, getting a mortgage and acting like an adult. Your parents are not responsible for your bad decisions

2sisters · 24/07/2024 16:43

It's their money and they can use it, spend it, gift it as they wish. It's nothing to do with you. If you allow it to impact your relationship that says more about you than them. I personally think it's fairer to split equally between siblings but what I consider is fairer is irrelevant.

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 24/07/2024 16:43

urbanbuddha · 24/07/2024 16:39

@Newbutoldfather

We know he doesn’t have a great sex life because he’s moaned about being single.
If he was having a great sex life he wouldn’t be bemoaning his single status.

Edited

I had a great sex life when single. That means nothing.

op, you also have a victim mentality. You are an adult. Where you are now is down to your own choices. Have you done any more practical courses to help employment? Have you had any treatments for anxiety? And therapy for childhood ‘trauma’?

why are you unemployed?

Naunet · 24/07/2024 16:44

Newbutoldfather · 24/07/2024 16:38

@urbanbuddha ,

INCEL is an acronym about bitter involuntary celibate men who resent womankind of depriving them of their god-given right to a shag.

The OP may hate his parents, but may have a great sex life. More importantly, we don’t know either way and it is not what this thread is about.

Incels hate and resent women, it’s not as straight forward as men who aren’t having sex, let’s not pretend it is, irrelevant as to if you think Op is one or not.

HoppingPavlova · 24/07/2024 16:44

I definitely blew a lot of opportunities 1999-2008

And yet you are such an expert with your lens of opportunities you believe your parents blew (that realistically they didn’t, they just don’t want the same things as you). Hmmm.

Dweetfidilove · 24/07/2024 16:45

OP, you haven't blamed your parents for your singleness yet.
I can't believe what I'm reading 😳

urbanbuddha · 24/07/2024 16:46

I had a great sex life when single. That means nothing.

Did you tell your partners that?

Soontobe60 · 24/07/2024 16:46

HaveSomeIntrospect · 24/07/2024 13:36

You don’t own a property and they haven’t assisted you financially. I understand why you are upset

I managed to buy my own house without any financial support from my parents, as did most of my peers and all of my siblings.
The OP said her parents gave her money when she was on benefits, and she was able to return to live with them when she was financially struggling. This is financial assistance.

PrincessofWells · 24/07/2024 16:46

You sound as entitled as hell and I wouldn't leave you anything. Why you think you can dictate what people do with their own money is beyond me.

Soontobe60 · 24/07/2024 16:51

MalePoster9000 · 24/07/2024 13:42

Oh the contrary, I think that leaving 66% to my brother and his children, when he owns a big house, has a well paid job, and will inherit on his wife’s side too, would be actively evil.

He hasn’t been affected by the severe anxiety that runs down one side of the family, isn’t partially deaf, and has had none of the troubles I’ve had.

Anyway fortunately even my parents could be persuaded of the injustice of what they were proposing and they’ve told me it’ll be 50/50.

What a ridiculous thing to say. Why should they split their money 50/50 with you and your brother and leave out their grandchildren? If your DB got half and his wife decided to divorce him, shed be entitled to half, ie 1/4 of the total estate. Would you be happy with that?
Claiming that theyre being ‘actively evil’ is hateful. Anxiety isnt an inherited condition, it’s a state of physical being. What they’re proposing isnt an injustice. If you were my daughter and tried to blackmail me into leaving nothing to my grandchildren id likely write you out of my will completely. In fact, they could still do this and you’d only find out after they died.

Soontobe60 · 24/07/2024 16:52

MalePoster9000 · 24/07/2024 14:25

Yes that’s right. I was priced out of the rented London flat where I’d lived for many years (and which I’d wished my parents had bought when they had the chance), and I moved back in with them last year. It’s hard to see a way forward that doesn’t involve a Time Machine.

Did you not think maybe to get a job and earn your own money?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 24/07/2024 16:53

Soontobe60 · 24/07/2024 16:51

What a ridiculous thing to say. Why should they split their money 50/50 with you and your brother and leave out their grandchildren? If your DB got half and his wife decided to divorce him, shed be entitled to half, ie 1/4 of the total estate. Would you be happy with that?
Claiming that theyre being ‘actively evil’ is hateful. Anxiety isnt an inherited condition, it’s a state of physical being. What they’re proposing isnt an injustice. If you were my daughter and tried to blackmail me into leaving nothing to my grandchildren id likely write you out of my will completely. In fact, they could still do this and you’d only find out after they died.

It's a man, not their daughter.

But I agree totally that it's not "actively evil" to think about their grandchildren as well as their children.

Turophilic · 24/07/2024 16:55

Soontobe60 · 24/07/2024 16:46

I managed to buy my own house without any financial support from my parents, as did most of my peers and all of my siblings.
The OP said her parents gave her money when she was on benefits, and she was able to return to live with them when she was financially struggling. This is financial assistance.

His parents.
The OP is a whiney bloke bitching that, despite his degree and Masters, he's still unemployed, single and living at his parents' house in his mid 40s. And he can't drive or have friends, apparently.

Also that no one is giving him a massive pile of money nor consulting him about whether to sell of properties that they own. And his parents even had the audacity to consider splitting the future inheriance 3 ways to include grandchildren. Despite the OP being bitter his grandparents gave the money to his mother* and uncle, not him.

*The mother who "had time off" to raise him and his brother, because full time parenthood is such a walk in the park.

What a heap of self pitying, entitled guff.

AnnieMcFanny · 24/07/2024 16:56

SoapOperaFamily · 24/07/2024 13:29

My dad married a woman younger than all of his children. She was from another country, and the marriage granted her permission to live in the U.K. that she would not otherwise have got. Once she had the residency permit in her hands she left him and had children with another man. He had written but didn’t get round to signing his will, which meant she accidentally inherited most of his share of our family’s business, which stretched back 3 generations and which at the time involved over a dozen members of the extended family. She immediately set about dismantling the business and forcing the sale of the property associated with it, causing distress to a number of family members (not just his children, but siblings and cousins too.)

I and my siblings had been told we would inherit our share of it along with our cousins when the time came. Now there is nothing left for any of us. So yes, it is possible to be a bit cross that your parent messes up an inheritance that is supposed to be passed down through generations without actually being grabby. My dad was given to generously by his parents both during their lifetime and after they died, but was frugal throughout his life with his children because he promised we would gain the benefits when he died. I was rather disappointed at the time (I could have retired on the inheritance he promised me) but I’ve got over it. I don’t believe in heaven or hell, but there is a little bit of me likes to pretend hell exists so people like his wife can live the rest of their lives knowing that is where they are going. She was greedy and plain nasty, but he was the stupid one.

I won’t go I to details but I very much feel your pain.

arethereanyleftatall · 24/07/2024 17:09

Op, the course of all your unhappiness is ...YOU.

And you will continue to be unhappy until you learn to self reflect.

Your life is entirely your choice.

Simply put, you're not very nice. You're horrible to your parents, whinge about everything, blame everyone else for everything. But. Here's the thing. Your attitude makes YOU unhappy. No one else.

If you come across in real life like you have done here, then that is why you have no friends.

You are EXCEPTIONALLY LUCKY to have the parents you have. They are saints. Until you realise that, you will continue to be unhappy.

Idontknowwhattocallmyself1 · 24/07/2024 17:12

OP you need to get some hobbies and make some friends so you feel less isolated. Does the village have any groups? The local church is often a good place to go even if you aren't particularly religious - there will be things there to get involved with.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/07/2024 17:13

Next time people complain about the Government wanting to cut back on benefit claimants, I will remember your UC and housing benefit, OP.

1VY · 24/07/2024 17:19

Plasticfoot · 24/07/2024 14:04

How you know there was no reason for the properties to be sold?

My DGM owned some rentals that had been left by her father. They did provide a useful income and undoubtedly "the family" would be better off now if she'd kept them, but they caused nothing but headaches for her, requiring updating to meet building /rental safety standards, problems with tenants and neighbours, difficulty finding reliable tradesmen etc. It made perfect sense for her to dispose of them when she did and live (well) off the proceeds.

ExactLy! The people who moan about keeping rented property “ in the family “ are never the ones who are dealing with the tenants who lock themselves out at 2am or who flood the place on Boxing Day. They are not handing neighbour complaints and doing the renovations after the place has been trashed after no rent for a year. Or keeping uo to date with the 170+ laws that affect landlords.

Lots of small landlords have sold up now just like the Ops parents because of the work and stress l I can see why this would be too much for elderly people living in another area.

And even if they had kept these properties , how would the Op manage them when she can’t drive and has anxiety ? Or would that be up to the brother who has the temerity to be happily married and successful ?

Newposter180 · 24/07/2024 17:20

MalePoster9000 · 24/07/2024 15:53

It’s being single that’s the killer. Literally being on your own in a property surrounded by families is my idea of hell. At least in London I was able to have a lodger so I’d have someone to talk to, and a bit of life and energy around me.

Can only assume this whole thread is a joke at this point. You understand that people have lodgers outside of London, right?
I’m not surprised you’re single.