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Elderly parents

I won’t be able to enjoy life until he dies

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LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 13:08

Terrible, to say that about your own father, isn’t it?

It’s not just now that he has dementia. I’ve felt like this for years. Only child of a widowed (my mum died when I was 9) parent, an older one at that, he was late 40s when I was born. he’s always expected me to be the centre of his life.

Never any ambition instilled into me, it was just leave school at 16, get any job until you get married young and have a child, then you look after that child and me.

Which is what I did because study, career, that was for other people.

My first husband left me because of my dad. Amount other things, He got an amazing job opportunity abroad, once in a lifetime. All expenses paid, pay increase that you could only dream of, the best private school paid for for dc. And he couldn’t go because I couldn’t leave my dad, the guilt he laid on, he attempted suicide twice. My marriage never recovered, my ex was made redundant instead, his career never really recovered and he never forgave me, he left me a couple of years after and I don’t blame him. We had tried to move across the country previously to get some space, he followed us. He used to sit outside my house like a stalker in the morning until he saw movement and then pound on the door.

My now husband has felt the strain for the last decade.

And now my dad has deteriorated into dementia and is in a home, my husband has done so much to help. But there is so much to sort out (money, house sale), it’s such a strain.

I don’t know how I am going to get through these next few years. There are so many hurdles, everything has been so stressful.

Sorry I don’t know what I want from this.I’ve just spent another morning on the phone trying to. sort out another financial issue.

I wish to god I didn’t have POA.

My husband got his parents to remove his name from theirs for the future - he said he couldn’t go though all this again, his sister can do it for his parents.

Everything to do with my dad is just a world of shit that only me and dh can sort out. Everyone telling us we “need” to do this or that. I don’t fucking need to do anything, I’ve had enough.

Dh works 6 days a week and hours of overtime everynight. He took tomorrow off as a surprise so we can take the baby somewhere together but another bit of shit has happened which means tomorrow morning has to be spent at the bank sorting out yet more of my dads stuff.

And I am aware I had another thread last week moaning, but I am just so angry at my dad and bored of the whole situation now.

And yes, seen my gp, my insurance covered therapy but all they say is “take a step back” which you can’t if you are responsible for someone’s finances and everyone wants their bloody money.

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LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 13:10

My dad attempted suicide, not my ex. It reads that way.

And two of his doctors told me not to be so selfish, that I was causing his depress as he had no one else. So that was helpful.

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KangarooKenny · 12/05/2022 13:12

Personally, I’d put it all in the hands of SS. Say that you are not able to do it any more, and you are standing down.

IncompleteSenten · 12/05/2022 13:14

Can the care home or bank or solicitor etc take over power of attorney? You can disclaim it and if he lacks capacity there are things in place to deal with that.

LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 13:19

I don’t know, I don’t know where to start with that.

Whenever I speak to anyone all they care about is the money, has his house sold yet.

SS were involved at the beginning, he was unsealed discharged from hospital when he first went into a home - they paid for six weeks then washed their hands of him as he’s self funding.

We couldn’t see him the first place he was in as they were shut due to covid outbreaks for 8 weeks. When we did see him, he’d been neglected and harmed. A&E and police invoked. I moved him immediately but there is the stress of the enquiry etc still ongoing.

So I don’t want to totally abandon him after what happened to him there.

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LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 13:21

unsafely , sorry.

I’m sorry, Im just venting. This is all an uphill struggle until he dies and believe me, he will hang in for years.

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TinaYouFatLard · 12/05/2022 13:24

First things first, fuck the bank stuff today. Take the baby out.

LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 13:30

TinaYouFatLard · 12/05/2022 13:24

First things first, fuck the bank stuff today. Take the baby out.

I can’t. Council tax instructed court proceedings for my dads council tax, he should have been exempt but, when his house sale/purchase went through he was in hospital and then the care home. Because he never moved in they are saying he’s not exempt (it’s £400 and I don’t have the energy to argue again).

.I need to pay the collection company by the end of tomorrow, but POA was only put on his bank account this week after months of delay so I don’t have a card yet.

Helpfully, the only “full” bank branch is an hour away on the bus, so one of us had to go there in person to sort out the payment.

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LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 13:33

And they were sending letters to his empty flat, instead of to me like the said they would when I provided POA documents.

I don’t have the headspace to keep going to his flat, the whole thing is just upsetting and it’s one more thing I have to do, so I don’t bother.

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Catgotyourbrain · 12/05/2022 13:34

Phone a solicitor and instruct them to take over power of attorney. They will be paid from his money. Then wash you hands of it. Visit if you want.. but that's it.

Organictangerine · 12/05/2022 13:37

Catgotyourbrain · 12/05/2022 13:34

Phone a solicitor and instruct them to take over power of attorney. They will be paid from his money. Then wash you hands of it. Visit if you want.. but that's it.

This.

That’s basically your only option at this stage.

Motnight · 12/05/2022 13:39

@Catgotyourbrain has given great advice. You are close to being overwhelmed Op. Source as much as you can out.

Georgeskitchen · 12/05/2022 13:49

If he has dementia he shouldn't be liable for council tax. You need to look into it, they don't always volunteer this information. My mother,when still living in her house, was exempt from council tax.

Whatapickle21 · 12/05/2022 13:53

Totally feel for you as we have just been through similar for the last few years. Certainly no judgement here about how you feel. I know it’s awful but I really felt as if my relative was fucking up my life on purpose! Every time there was anything nice on the horizon a crisis would come along and put paid to it.
Agree with PP, fuck the bank, have your day out, the shit can wait for 24 hours your sanity and family needs to come first for once. Then, make a plan which aims to achieve minimal involvement long term. Yes, there’s bound to be an intensive period of activity whilst you clear and sell the house but once that’s done and funds released you can set up a direct debit for the care home fees and any other regular costs and decide on a level of visiting that you can bear which appeases your conscience, and allows you to make sure he’s not being ill treated, but is not too frequent to drive you mad. You can be fairly hands-off, certainly compared to how it must have been before he went into the home, it’s just this interim phase which is so hard.
However, I know it’s probably all the emotional baggage which is really making it all so much worse and that nothing I say will help that, but please be gentle on yourself.
Sending 💐and unMumsnetty hugs x

LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 13:53

Georgeskitchen · 12/05/2022 13:49

If he has dementia he shouldn't be liable for council tax. You need to look into it, they don't always volunteer this information. My mother,when still living in her house, was exempt from council tax.

I argued it out with them.

It’s because he never moved into the property. He was in hospital/moving to respite care when the sale went through.

The sale took a year due to hold ups. Not a single symptom of dementia back then. He deteriorated alarmingly fast.

They won’t budge.

Ive raised a dispute. But they are all saying same thing, it’s becuase he didn’t move in. They contacted hospital/care home for dates.

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ThreeLocusts · 12/05/2022 14:01

What a nightmare OP. Passing the POA to a solicitor sounds like the way to go.

My mum is lovely, but needy, easily taken advantage of and increasingly scatty - even though this isn't nearly as bad as your situation I have moments when I wonder if it wouldn't be better if she didn't hang on too much longer.

LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 14:03

Whatapickle21 · 12/05/2022 13:53

Totally feel for you as we have just been through similar for the last few years. Certainly no judgement here about how you feel. I know it’s awful but I really felt as if my relative was fucking up my life on purpose! Every time there was anything nice on the horizon a crisis would come along and put paid to it.
Agree with PP, fuck the bank, have your day out, the shit can wait for 24 hours your sanity and family needs to come first for once. Then, make a plan which aims to achieve minimal involvement long term. Yes, there’s bound to be an intensive period of activity whilst you clear and sell the house but once that’s done and funds released you can set up a direct debit for the care home fees and any other regular costs and decide on a level of visiting that you can bear which appeases your conscience, and allows you to make sure he’s not being ill treated, but is not too frequent to drive you mad. You can be fairly hands-off, certainly compared to how it must have been before he went into the home, it’s just this interim phase which is so hard.
However, I know it’s probably all the emotional baggage which is really making it all so much worse and that nothing I say will help that, but please be gentle on yourself.
Sending 💐and unMumsnetty hugs x

Thank you x

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LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 14:04

ThreeLocusts · 12/05/2022 14:01

What a nightmare OP. Passing the POA to a solicitor sounds like the way to go.

My mum is lovely, but needy, easily taken advantage of and increasingly scatty - even though this isn't nearly as bad as your situation I have moments when I wonder if it wouldn't be better if she didn't hang on too much longer.

This is a living hell for him too. I don’t know why we let people carry on existing like this. Everyday for him is torture.

If he could see himself.

His biggest fear in life was losing his mind and ending up in a care home.

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Catgotyourbrain · 12/05/2022 14:06

I remember your other posts OP.

The council will look like idiots trying to send bailiffs round to a care home and a dementia patient.. really - what is the worst that can happen? they will be paid from his house sale - what do you really care if he pays it or not. Sorry to be quite 'direct' - but sod them: they can't chase you for it.

We helped an elderly neighbour whose only relatives were on the other side of the world: with his relatives' permission we got a solicitor to take over power of attorney. She was great: she organised the house sale and care home admission. Just phone one today - and see what they say...

GooseberryJam · 12/05/2022 14:10

Get redirection set up on his post so you don't have to keep going to the flat. That at least removes one thing from the list.

I completely sympathise with the level of stress. Had similar with my Dad's dementia and people keep saying 'don't you think you should get him into a home' 'don't you think you should sell the house' as if these were the easiest and fastest things in the world to sort. Grr.

LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 14:16

GooseberryJam · 12/05/2022 14:10

Get redirection set up on his post so you don't have to keep going to the flat. That at least removes one thing from the list.

I completely sympathise with the level of stress. Had similar with my Dad's dementia and people keep saying 'don't you think you should get him into a home' 'don't you think you should sell the house' as if these were the easiest and fastest things in the world to sort. Grr.

Oh yeah, everyone else becomes an armchair expert, don’t they? Until you ask for help, then they scatter off.

Hopefully his flat will sell soon. it’s under offer but everything turns into a shitshow for me, so I’m bracing myself for it to fall though.

Then he has two years self funding before we have to go cap in hand to the council

He will probably have to be moved - I certainly can’t afford to top up fees but I’ll jump of that bridge when I come to it.

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Organictangerine · 12/05/2022 14:18

What do you think about the solicitor idea OP?

hattie43 · 12/05/2022 14:22

What would happen if he had no daughter ?
Time to put your own needs first , it sounds an absolute nightmare .

Tiger2018 · 12/05/2022 14:34

oh OP this sounds awful and I want to let you know that what you are doing is all you can do. Please keep repeating that to yourself - I am doing the best I can. You will start believing it one day x.

With regards to the backstory - you owe yourself some forgiveness here. The choices you've made were the right ones at the time. You are not responsible for anyone elses choices or behaviour - including your dad and your ex husbands.

I promise you, when this is all over, you can look back and think I did the best I could and if ANYONE expects anything different, they can jog on.

LeeMucklowesCurtains · 12/05/2022 14:35

Organictangerine · 12/05/2022 14:18

What do you think about the solicitor idea OP?

Yes, I will look into it.

It’s just another thing on the list at the moment to be honest.

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Orangesox · 12/05/2022 14:36

This sounds like an utter nightmare for you. I was genuinely petrified that this would be my life; my mother who was much younger when she passed than your father is now, expected the absolute earth from me. I too was an only child, my Dad is still alive but they had divorced many years previous. She put my marriage at breaking point, she would lash out at me, be utterly possessive, just completely intrusive in my life.

I was of course utterly blindsided when she died suddenly in January of this year, but now the dust has settled it's quite alarming to realise how much of my life revolved around making her happy to the detriment of myself. I'm now dealing with her estate, reaping what I've sow as it were as there are so many issues coming to light because she would petulantly refuse to deal with things herself, and expect me to shoulder the burden of everything.

I can't really give you any advice, but I wanted you to know that I am thinking of you in solidarity, and actually, although it sounds harsh as fuck, I can actually live my life now without restriction or fear. Have an un-mumsnetty hug Flowers