part time teachers HELP with parents evenings on days OFF

[GordianKnot]

ok so i do three days
parents eve always on day off
dont mind dointg EXAM classes at all, but in KS3 is complusory subject so its tough titty really.
so i said " are you goign to pay me or not expect me in"

teh solution they propose is that my LOVELY HoD reads out what i write down

dont know what do do

But to be fair we have a lot of holidays, I think it is rather off to be ask to be paid to go in on a few extra days or to refuse to go in.

WE ARENT PAID FOR HOLIDAYS

THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO CHUFFING LONG!!

yes i agree pat.
I have been working today
on my day off.
professssssssshional

,snigger>

blah

You choose to be a teacher, do the parents evening, if you have another job take annual leave on these odd occasions.

I choose to be a mother, I have to take annual leave to attend the parents evening (that is between the hours of 8.30am-5.30pm) not sure when that's constitued as evening for anyone!!!

have you never heard of er workers rights and unions and stuff?
obv not

I'd love to see full time members of staff being asked (and agreeing!) to give up a week of their holidays for directed meetings "to be professional". No wonder women are so bloody tired.

There is no need to shout.

I know we are not paid for our holidays but they are still a huge bonus. Some parents have childcare issues every single day of the summer holidays, it happens to us every now and again. We are also well paid for what we do. There just has to be give and take.

and run revision lessons for kids in holidayas

sheesh
anyway
thanks all
i haev my answers.
i will make my decision.

Gordian- I am actually being paid extra to do revision classes in the holidays, so they are not as tight as they seem, although it is interesting that they seem to have glossed over or 'not noticed' that we are supposed to be paid for parents evenings, according to STPC.

Wastwinset- surely the point is that if we are meant to be paid then its 'a bit off' if we have to ask to be paid?

My partner is not a teacher he regularly gives up his time to fulfill his professional obligations. Most professions have to go above and beyond what their contract states.

I would never dream of asking for money to work on my day off, that is money that comes from a budget. I know what teaching involves and have signed on the dotted line. As a part time member of staff I quite reguarly worked on days off and would not have wanted paying. As a full time member of staff again quite regularly am in school late evenings or weekends with children and would not dream of asking for extra pay.

most schools do pay for revision in hols these days

teachers go above and beyond the demands of their contract every day, the fact is that a parents' evening on your day off can be a nightmare to organise and is not contractually obligatory

BLAH

I think most teachers 'go above and beyond what their contract states' on a daily basis. E.g most part-timers don't turn up dead on 15 mins before their first lesson and leave 10 mins after they officially 'clock-off'. Plus there is the immeasurable amount of extra work most teachers put in at home, residential trips, weekend trips, school productions etc they may do. that is not the point.

the point is, if we are meant to be paid for something we chuffing well should be!

What do you mean you are not paid for holidays? Don't you get a pay packet in august?

We are paid in August, the pay is spread out over the year. I agree Elliott.

As for coming 'from a budget' so do expense claims for fuel etc. Never seen SMT having any qualms about spending some of that budget there

I do not work to rule. I do more than I am paid for. But I still believe I should be doing only 50% of the extra time I would put in if I were full-time, and that is me being professional. Part-time professional teacher, part-time professional mother.

"You choose to be a teacher, do the parents evening, if you have another job take annual leave on these odd occasions.

I choose to be a mother, I have to take annual leave to attend the parents evening (that is between the hours of 8.30am-5.30pm) not sure when that's constitued as evening for anyone!!!"

I chose to be both. So how do I reconcile that one?

BTW, I get 3 paid dependency days per year and no annual leave- so if my DD is sick for more than three days a year (likely) I go unpaid. Having to pay for childcare on the days I do not work in order to go in to school means I need to be paid. It works both ways.

Our school pays for school hol revision time.

I think the parents evening thing is not straight forward.

If you are an English teacher - for example - and teach each class at least 3+ times a week, then I think you should attend parents' evening. After all, if you are, say 0.6, then you probably don't have classes in every year group, so won't have to do all parents evenings.

BUT if you teach RE or IT or something, where you may have 5 classes in a single year group, and everyone knows that the only parents who will bother to look for a slot with you are the ultra-keen pfb, that you don't need to see anyway... then I think the school should say to you, don't bother.

Do you have a system where teachers can request the presence of particular parents that they really do need to see?

We get really poor attendance at parents' evenings, and none of the ones anyone needs to see!

Elliot, most people have already siad on here (me included) that they do go in and they didn't realsie they should be paid.

And, yes, can't understand those that say we are not paid for the holidays either I certainly get paid every august

you can be obliged to attend parents evenings, but the time comes off elsewhere, it is the p/t equivalent of f/t directed time

teachers are paid for term time plus 5 PD days, spread over 12 months

I work fulltime and view part-time workers as being shafted moneywise. It is part of the work-life balance.

If you want to consider teaching a profession, then teachers have to be professional. This means not nitpicking with their hours.

When we are doing productions, it is all hands on deck with Sunday rehearsals and evening performances, including Saturdays. None of us, part-time or fulltime get paid for these.

I teach RE and would never dream of missing a parent's evening. I don't just see the ultra keen pfb either. Even if I did they too deserve feedback.