Homosexuality in the Classroom.

[Darcey1]

My daughter is nine. Yesterday she came home from school and said that her teacher had told the class that she was a lesbian. The teacher is about to have one of these civil partnerships and according to my daughter told the class that girls could marry girls and boys could marry boys if they wanted to.It was according to her entirely natural. This seems like corruption to me. I don't want my daughter exposed to this kind of lifestyle.

I am very upset about this and don't know what to do. Am I over reacting? Should the school have warned us that the teacher was going to do this? Do you think I should make a complaint to the school?

DP, in my old job at school, there was an instance when a little girl was getting very upset because she was being told by her peers that girls couldn't go out with girls, and so she was lying when she said she had two mums.

So I told them that indeed girls could go out with girls, and marry them (and the same for boys).

Because it was the truth.

echo MadameD, my ds1 was told by a teacher 'rubbish men can't marry eachother'.

I was

outright lying in the name of sexual prejudice is not what I want my son exposed to...

Surely DP, you'd rather have a teacher who was a lesbian than a priest who was a child abuser?

MD...i know it happens, but i want to protect my children...esp my sons.

mollyroger....the abuse of children by the catholic church is something all catholics are sickened by...it should never have happened and i hope the priests involved burn in hell...

violence towards children was acceptable in alot of catholic homes...i would have been taken into care by todays standards.

To be fair Dp has always said she is uneducated and never before has it been more evident than here on this thread.It is pitiful tbh

'But homosexuals have sex'
O my god call the police
That is your arguement? First it's your religion, which you seem to have a very thin grasp of. Now it's the fact they have sex? How very dare they eh?

DP, no! You looked almost as if you were making progress and everything.

Sigh.

BTW, people using the term 'nulabour' always look a bit paranoid and mad IMHO.

"echo MadameD, my ds1 was told by a teacher 'rubbish men can't marry each other'." (quoting agingoth)

This is exactly why I argue for all teachers to keep their mouths shut on the subject of human relationships unless in the context of sex ed class.

I would also be very careful with the "rubbish men cant marry men approach" because who knows what sexual orientation your child will turn out to have?

And who knows what experiences the child have in their home life, with gay/lesbian aunts/uncles/mums/dads, etc.

My son loves Alice, and Sophie, and he does not quite distinguish this love with the love he feels for Eric and Morton, because there is nothing sexual about this yet. He just really cares for his friends, and that is all that matters to him.

He once asked, "mum is it true that a boy can marry a boy". I said "yes, it is but, mostly boys marry girls, but sometimes girls marry girls and boys marry boys." he said. "Yippee, I can marry Eric" I asked why he wanted to marry Eric? He replied "because he is my best friend and we have so much fun together, silly!"

LMAO. Surprised your daughter could hear her through all that cotton wool.

feeds the troll as is proud of mn for whipping the opinion that anyone loving anyone else could ever be wrong

LG - thanks for telling me. It could very well be you are right. It looks like we are on our way out of it. He had a shower tonight, and asked for the piriton syrup, and added "but I dont need the magic cream tonight", which was a good sign.

oh just re-read the last part of your post LG, that is what my sisters homeopath was also saying about sensitivity to vaccine also being hereditary. (DH has a really sad case of this in his family). Ds2 had an asthma diagnosis when he was 1, but he has been very well the last year. No itching, or hayfever though.

actually dp your Leviticus quotes say men shouldn't lie with men. Says nothing about women not lying with women. I would take it that God is cool with lesbians.

Joining the hijack with a question anyone know if there's egg in the vaccine medium/base/liquid whatever it's called? Sorry to hijack...

no, I mean, it builds up under what you are saying.

Mathanxiety, I think pandemrix is egg based, not the other one, but the name escapes me, sorry.

I'm just staggered at these parents who think that they should be the ones to tell their children about homosexuality/Santa/the tooth fairy etc, AND THEN DON'T TELL THEM.

Do they honestly expect a 9 year old will not hear about homosexuality from their peers, however lip-zipped the teacher may be?

Another thing you might think about, dp, with Christian charity in your heart, is that a teacher talking about homosexuality respectfully will not harm your child, but would be so wonderfully affirming for mine. Would you deny her that?

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ok...will try and explain this as best i can.

1. I said most religions are against homosexuality, you asked me to back this claim up...i already had by quoting from Leviticus. i'll do it again.

Lev. 18.22

"you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination"

Lev 20.13

"if there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act"

i think that is self explanatory.....the bible is against homosexuality....you can't re-write it...it will never be the bible according to mumsnet.

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Not trying to re-write anything but you can't pick and choose either. You have the choice of all of Leviticus is correct or only the bits that suit your particular moral compass are, I feel the latter is a bit of a cop out. The following are also from Leviticus:

Owning slaves Lev 25.44, do you agree with that?

How about anyone who happens to be blind approaching an altar Lev 21.20

The men in your life, do they get haircuts? Lev 19.27

Do you wear 2 threads of a different kind? Lev 19.19

Ever cursed your parents? Then you should have been killed according to Lev 20.9

I'm Pagan should I be stoned to death? Lev 20.27

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2. please advise what the obvious reasons are;

God created man and then created woman, if God had wanted homosexuals he would have created two men...he didn't. man and woman were created to reproduce, homosexuals cannot reproduce with each other. homosexuals are commiting a sin (and a pretty big one)...they are giving into passions and we are taught to pray for their salvation.

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That is a non sequitur, the Bible claims that God created man in his image and that free will was given to man. If the God of the Bible wanted perfect people surely, as an omnicognescent being, he'd have created them. Perhaps the diversity was built in from the start. As only approximately 10% of the population are gay there is no way that gay people can be the death of the species.

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3. please advise why anyone should should show respect for anyone else's belief system.

I would have thought that was common courtesy...?

although the bible teaches us that homosexuality is wrong, it also teaches us to treat all humans with dignity and respect...i do that.

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Why is it courtesy for me to be respectful to a religion who's follower have:

Spat at me
Thrown holy water at me
Followed me shouting abuse - that's just me, there are other worse things happening to others:

Been to the funerals of fallen soldiers bearing banners saying God Hates Fags and Be Glad Your Son/Daughter Is Dead?

As for the whole, the Old Testament tells us quite a lot of stuff, surely Jesus came with a new covenant which was his whole point:

Love God
Love thy neighbour

Wouldn't the Son of God's new covenant supersede all the other previous rules?

Oh and just for the record the 10 comandments are:

1. You are to have no other gods before God

1. You are not to make any graven images.

1. Don't use the Lord's name in vain

1. Keep the Sabbath holy

1. Honor your mother and father

1. Do not kill

1. Do not commit adultery.

1. Don't steal

1. Don't bear false witness.

10. Don't covet the neighbor's house.

Nothing about homosexuality there.

LookingForwardToYourResponseTiggaxx

"Another thing you might think about, dp, with Christian charity in your heart, is that a teacher talking about homosexuality respectfully will not harm your child, but would be so wonderfully affirming for mine. Would you deny her that?"
But what if the teacher took it into her head to tell a class of 9 year olds something along the lines of DP's posts? How would LeninGrad's children feel about that? Would LeninGrad have a right to be offended? (using your name in vain here, LG..) I would be very P.O'd, personally, if my children were told something along the lines of DP's ideas, especially if the teacher claimed any of her views were based on scripture, and I had been given no advance warning and had no chance to keep my children from being exposed to her views. This scenario would be very confusing for my DCs, since we attend a very gay-friendly Catholic church in a very gay-friendly area. (Gay-friendly Catholic church is not an oxymoron) There's no guarantee that any given teacher will have the same opinion as you do on a matter like this.

Plus, not all parents who have the right to tell their children whatever they want about Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, sex, etc., end up not telling them. That's no good reason to leave it all up to the judgement of the individual teacher.

Good grief. When ds started nursery, at age 3, he used to laugh uproariously on the way home if he saw one of the teachers going into her house, because the idea that a teacher had an independent existence outside school was so hilarious. I think he really believed they all lived in the school buildings.

By the time he turned four, he'd gotten over it. Unlike, it would appear, some of the posters here who are presumably considerably older. At least in chronological terms.

Surely your average 9yo is innocent enough to hear about a wedding without worrying about how the partners are going to have sex? Surely at that age, a wedding is still about love and romance, not sexual technique.

Or do you think they watch Cinderella and think hey these people are now off to have sex?

DP I've just had a discussion with my dad, who is bigotted beyond belief, and just a warning to you if your views are so out of line with everyone else, your children will realise and make up their own minds (like I have).

Even trying to advise my dad not to use the word 'coloured' as it does offend has ended up in an argument him hanging up on me--

He actually views tolerance as another word for 'putting up with' and whilst I know there is no point in trying to change these views, they are deep set, I do keep trying falling out with him

I just hope that he doesn't put his views across to my children