Jason Arday, Cambridge Plagiarist, thread two

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We are nearing our 1000-post limit on the original thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/education/5561878-jason-arday-cambridge-plagiarist?reply=153910946

I have now removed the question mark after "plagiarist".

I can't believe the sequel will be as good as the original, but you never know...

@prh47bridge sometimes the loudest truth comes without references. That man is just so authentic. I've watched and rewatched the clip so many times - I feel like I could have been in the back of that minibus while they were singing!

A guy who claims to have been a friend of Arday's at Primary school and through church activities did a tiktok that denied that he had any speech problems at primary school and called Arday a "chatty patty"

Watch the clip @prh47bridge posted. I quote "He was chattin'..."

Ultimately, it is illegal in the UK to positively discriminate - so the institutions that did so made a shocking job of it, bodging even the principles of that idea. I think it would be very easy to prove laws have been breached by looking back at the applicants for JA’s professorship and simply using metrics to establish whether there is any objective evidence for him being among the most excellent of candidates. There are also some prime examples of similar massively under qualified hires of black leadership roles in arts institutions. This isn’t to say black people are unappointable in senior jobs across a range of sectors - but when the impulse is ‘we need a black face or it makes us look bad’, the proper processes aren’t followed and the wrong person is invariably appointed. At JA’s level of publication, prestige and experience he would struggle to get a Senior Lecturer promotion at most of the places where I have worked…let alone a Chair at Cambridge!

Most people don't. I never have. Most people don't lift over 180 passages from someone else's thesis, then say that it was 'their ASD' causting them to learn by mimicry.

Most people don't claim to have a qualification from a university that a) doesn't offer that qualification and b) says they weren't a student there.

Most people don't claim to have held roles they didn't hold.

Most people don't say that there were 3000 people waiting for them at the finishing line of a marathon when there were in fact about 50.

https://www.aru.ac.uk/graduation-and-alumni/honorary-award-holders2/jason-arday

Has anyone linked to this?

So far I don't think there is anything concrete, other than a guy who claims to know him from childhood and that he was a "chatty patty" at a young age.

I hope the autism is a true diagnosis, and it's only the dubiousness of the timeline of when speech, reading and writing abilities were acquired.

Unfortunately it's looking highly likely that's it's another thing that whilst it may have an origin in truth has been well and truly over egged.

As for your hope that it's all just a case of him taking 'over inflate your CV' literally to a massive degree, that doesn't track if his family is as tight and close knit, full of mental health specialists, and therefore presumably protective of Jason as he professes.

Surely family would have stepped in and explained to him that his level of exaggeration was over the top and he needed to be more truthful about his previous history and his job experience

He's so far been found to have lied about some qualifications and some of his job roles.

No-one lies on their CV in the industries I have worked in - when found out, even if it was just a grade in their GCSE maths, they have been immediately dismissed and escorted out of the building by security. In my industry, in my DH’s industry telling even just a small lie risks being kicked out of your professional associations or at the very least censured by them. It can mean you never work in your field again - something I have seen. People fired and they drop off the face of the earth. No social media, no Linked in, everything gone. People I had worked with for years went this way.

Giles Coren is a dick - and I am not sure that that article wasn’t meant to be entirely tongue-in-cheek anyway. But most people are very very carefully vetted and their Cv’s checked so no, they don’t usually even ‘embellish’ their cv’s, especially when the age of tech means it is so easy to corroborate. And the more outlandish the claim, the easier that is to do.

After all, we can easily check if someone was a torch-bearer for the Olympics as there are records on line. So is everything else, essentially.

Speak for yourself about lies on CVs.
And there is a difference between 'well, it's a matter of opinion' (how experienced is 'very experienced', for example?) and outright lies.

And there is clear evidence of plagiarism in his PhD. That alone should have seen him firmly booted out. Plagiarism is a form of theft, in two ways. Firstly, it's a direct theft from the person (or people) whose work you are passing off as your own, and it's an indirect form of theft from all the people (like me) who work their arses off for their PhDs and who do, in fact, make an original contribution to the knowledge (which is what a PhD is supposed to be): it demeans our efforts and makes a PhD a lesser thing.

IMHO it's a despicable thing to do. So yes, Jason Arday can do one.

@Fraudornot With Daniel Tannet it is more complex - he can do all the things he says he can, unlike JA, but the method is in question. He is accused of having an excellent memory and using mnemonics rather than due to innate savant syndrome.

Stellar post, ThisNewZebra - and yes there's a man to admire in Thomas Sowell (I can't believe he's 96 now!!)

https://fee.org/articles/30-priceless-quotes-from-the-great-thomas-sowell/

I suspect he is quite on his own in life 😕

I just think hes told a lot of lies, which is his way of existing

Calling the police on someone because he felt threatened, this man is vulnerable!

So he happened to fail upwards! Were he a white man (and yes, i am going there) he's be classed as one of the lads whos made a mistake, not held in front of the public for a beating

First one is very fitting for this thread subject

“Some things are believed because they are demonstrably true. But many other things are believed simply because they have been asserted repeatedly—and repetition has been accepted as a substitute for evidence.”

Oh come on, he called the police to try and silence people who were on to him.

He has a wife and kids.

And parents and at least one brother…

If he has lied, surely that's fraud?

Maybe soon a cellmate.

A WIFE?

Two brothers I think, plus the college lecturer who basically treated him like his own child and spent hours every day teaching him to read and write.

“If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 60 years ago, a liberal 30 years ago and a racist today.”
👏👏👏

Why isnt he allowed to be considered vulnerable?

Yes, he thanks her and references a child in the acknowledgements of his PhD. See, some of us actually made an effort to read the thing… or some of it at least.