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Jason Arday, Cambridge Plagiarist, thread two

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Angeruish · 08/08/2026 20:39

We are nearing our 1000-post limit on the original thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/education/5561878-jason-arday-cambridge-plagiarist?reply=153910946

I have now removed the question mark after "plagiarist".

I can't believe the sequel will be as good as the original, but you never know...

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/08/2026 20:54

HelenaWilson · 16/08/2026 19:52

If Cambridge had done their job when the problem was flagged, there would have been no need for the media interest.

If Arday (or whoever was backing him) hadn't gone to such extreme lengths to shut down investigation, the media might have been less interested.

This is probably true, but I strongly suspect it would have finished up in the media anyway - because if Cambridge had "done their job" in the first place Jason would almost certainly have accused them too of racism, and then countless others would have used him as a poster boy

Edited to add that yours was an excellent example of the many nuances involved, @HelenaWilson
As so often it's much easier - and for some a lot more satisfying - to fling accusations of racism than to acknowledge such issues

Marchesman · 16/08/2026 20:55

Quokkas · 16/08/2026 19:51

I think the information you’ve given here is a bit unclear and misleading.

Do you mean Cambridge stopped publicly displaying exam results from 2017 onwards? If so, that’s not correct. They actually stopped doing that in 2021. I was there until 2015, and my results were published publicly outside Senate House as they had been in previous years.

Anonymised results from the university are also still very much available: https://www.information-hub.admin.cam.ac.uk/university-profile/ug-examination-results/results-course-dashboard.

I referred to their discontinued data analysis:

https://www.information-hub.admin.cam.ac.uk/university-profile/ug-examination-results/archive

The Samoylova paper is very clear.

Archive | Information Hub

Previously published examination statistics are available below dating back to 1979.

https://www.information-hub.admin.cam.ac.uk/university-profile/ug-examination-results/archive

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/08/2026 21:27

Marchesman · 16/08/2026 16:53

You would like to see more women in post relative to men. Although that can be rationalised, it introduces a bias into individual judgements.

  1. Hiring shouldn't be down to individual decisions. That's why panels are used.
  2. Hiring should be as objective as possible. Structuring the interview and awarding points for objective criteria in answers is one way to achieve this.
  3. Attrition of women is more about retention than about recruitment. Examining one's organisations mat leave and carer's leave policies would be a good place to start there.
bluewanda · 16/08/2026 21:29

Do you mean Cambridge stopped publicly displaying exam results from 2017 onwards? If so, that’s not correct. They actually stopped doing that in 2021

2017 or 2021 - who cares. The point still stands.

Quokkas · 16/08/2026 21:45

Marchesman · 16/08/2026 20:55

I referred to their discontinued data analysis:

https://www.information-hub.admin.cam.ac.uk/university-profile/ug-examination-results/archive

The Samoylova paper is very clear.

With respect, you said ‘Cambridge stopped publishing exam result data in 2017.’ You didn’t say anything about them stopping exam results data analysis. Not publishing exam results data and not publishing exam results data analysis are pretty different things.

Quokkas · 16/08/2026 21:46

bluewanda · 16/08/2026 21:29

Do you mean Cambridge stopped publicly displaying exam results from 2017 onwards? If so, that’s not correct. They actually stopped doing that in 2021

2017 or 2021 - who cares. The point still stands.

What point? As it happens, @Marchesman now says in their post from 8:55 that Cambridge stopped publishing exam results data analysis, rather than not publishing exam results, which are very different things.

Breadlegs · 16/08/2026 21:49

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/08/2026 21:27

  1. Hiring shouldn't be down to individual decisions. That's why panels are used.
  2. Hiring should be as objective as possible. Structuring the interview and awarding points for objective criteria in answers is one way to achieve this.
  3. Attrition of women is more about retention than about recruitment. Examining one's organisations mat leave and carer's leave policies would be a good place to start there.

Criteria and ratings help a bit but people don't tend to use them. They ask question on a whim and then change ratings at the end to fit who they liked.

In my faculty, women are retained but get stuck at assoc prof. It's not always caring responsibility either. I have many female colleagues working 12 hours days in the office, they don't date, they don't go out,.many come in at weekends and eat all their meals at work, but they just can't get over the promotion hurdle. Meanwhile men are championed.

Marchesman · 16/08/2026 21:54

Quokkas · 16/08/2026 21:46

What point? As it happens, @Marchesman now says in their post from 8:55 that Cambridge stopped publishing exam results data analysis, rather than not publishing exam results, which are very different things.

I originally wrote: Cambridge stopped publishing exam result data in 2017. I did not say that they stopped publishing exam results. As you cogently point out, these are very different things.

EasternStandard · 16/08/2026 22:11

mids2019 · 16/08/2026 17:47

Remember Kathleen Stock .....forced from a job for criticising teams ideology. Did the same people aghast at Jason' resignation and the tragedy that enfolded have sympathy for her I wonder?

I doubt it.

Quokkas · 16/08/2026 22:53

Marchesman · 16/08/2026 21:54

I originally wrote: Cambridge stopped publishing exam result data in 2017. I did not say that they stopped publishing exam results. As you cogently point out, these are very different things.

They didn’t stop publishing exam results data in 2017 though, as this link shows they are continuing to publish exam result data - https://www.information-hub.admin.cam.ac.uk/university-profile/ug-examination-results/results-course-dashboard.

Your posts are needlessly panicking people like @Corianda, who was concerned that Cambridge are partly funded by taxpayers but don’t publish exam results data.

Results by Course Dashboard | Information Hub

https://www.information-hub.admin.cam.ac.uk/university-profile/ug-examination-results/results-course-dashboard

Londonmummy66 · 16/08/2026 22:59

Marchesman · 16/08/2026 16:53

You would like to see more women in post relative to men. Although that can be rationalised, it introduces a bias into individual judgements.

Not sure it does - we all know that discussion of men's sport in the workplace can be discriminatory. When I was the only female partner in my firm the only corporate entertaining we did was having a box at a football stadium. The junior men who then went and hobnobbed with partners and clients got their faces known. Few women wanted to go. One year I got them to swap it with a box at the Albert Hall - equal numbers of men and women went to the proms and more women than men to the ballet. The women got their faces better known too.

The most famous example of men picking men over better qualified women was the Berlin Phil which used to have very very few female players. WHen they switched to blind auditions (by having the candiate play behind a screen) that changed very rapidly.

Marchesman · 17/08/2026 01:07

Quokkas · 16/08/2026 22:53

They didn’t stop publishing exam results data in 2017 though, as this link shows they are continuing to publish exam result data - https://www.information-hub.admin.cam.ac.uk/university-profile/ug-examination-results/results-course-dashboard.

Your posts are needlessly panicking people like @Corianda, who was concerned that Cambridge are partly funded by taxpayers but don’t publish exam results data.

They very conspicuously did stop publishing exam results data in 2017.

In 2017 it was possible to see the performance of students from state vs private schools. In 2018 this data was no longer available. It was there then it wasn't - they stopped publishing it. This was the topic being discussed.

Furthermore, until two years ago, their prospectus said that there was no difference in undergraduate performance according to school background, and they cited a 2012 study (Parks) in support of their statement - despite having the up to date evidence of Samoylova showing otherwise.

Not only do they not publish important data, they deliberately mislead. @Corianda should be concerned, and so should you instead of trying to defend them.

Lalgarh · 17/08/2026 01:26

The crowdfunder for Ardays funeral has now beaten it's original target, with £110k raised.

So the new target to reach is £200k

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/jason-arday-gofundme-crowdfunder-b1293542.html

Those with experience of Leftish politics will be rolling their eyes at the quotes from Weyman Bennett about other academics being accused of more serious accusations of sexual harassment avoiding scrutiny

Jason Arday family GoFundMe tops £110,000 following his tragic death

The fundraising drive was launched in memory of the professor by Windrush campaigner Sir Patrick Vernon

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/jason-arday-gofundme-crowdfunder-b1293542.html

Noras · 17/08/2026 07:05

In my former life, I handled a claim by a fantasist and when it was revealed that he was not a deep sea diver amongst other things he took his own life. It seems part of the course that once the whole tissue of lies is exposed this is the way of retaining control for what it a narcissistic character. This is almost an inevitability unless he had full urgency counselling etc. Maybe Cambridge should have done more to protect him as he was clearly vulnerable. That’s where fault lies in that being someone with such a disconnect from reality is a form of mental health issue. They made him a poster boy without checking any of his story with experts.

However I think that it is shameful to say the publicity now was because he was black. It’s because he was high profile and the whole story is extraordinary with all the lies told that were audacious and sensational. We wil never have full racial equality if race is used like this. Referencing others who plagiarised is irrelevant. They were not Cambridge poster boys and they did not create a whole world of deceit. The whole story has made Cambridge a laughing stock with commentators even in the US opening laughing ( on You Tube ) about the book eg how he allegedly was given epilepsy by a bully whom he then wrote a reference for and also became god father to his child. Yet on the other hand called the police on someone who queried plagiarism?

Foe what it’s worth I remain really confused about his medical history. He told channel 4 that he had diagnosed Asperger’s but also was diagnosed with global delay. The key definition I thought between ASD and Asperger’s is the absence of language impairment or global delay. Again this resonates with me as my son would have been called autistic not Asperger’s due to his profound language impairment. Also he referred in the same interview to motor delays yet unbelievably he taught PE. The whole thing seems a bit odd. I could see clearly the ASD in Chris Packham and he is my son’s star or hope. I never got the same feeling from this Cambridge professor who developed his talks with great ease, no mannerisms and great fluency. This is quite remarkable for someone who said they could not talk until aged 11. Moreover he inferred receptive language impairment as he said that he could not understand words he also references hearing aids so it seems squarely like my son’s life. My son had profound deafness during critical years at 80 dbls reducing to 50 dbls due to a inability to swallow and significant glue ear ( 2 sets of grommets failed and adenoids removed) You might improve your expressive language but receptive language is a cognitive deficit caused by lack of signals to the brain. The memory load can improve but to have zero deficit is quite remarkable when it was so severe. Before I thought he must have been mute but he is describing my sons issues which is severe receptive language impairment. Putting it this way, SALT laid down tools as there is little to be done for this but memory games etc. Again with receptive language you get the lack of fluency, false starts and stutters- Jason had none of these signs. I know that any SALT reading this would know exactly what o am describing. Also for more pronounced ASD keeping the person on task is something. Partly my son forgets what he is talking about. Again aids help eg writing the subject matter or question down.

I don’t know what exactly he was diagnosed with but as he said he also had cancer, had epilepsy caused by a bully whom he wrote a reference for and also had a brown tumour - did he even have ASD? Or were his lies grounded in a bit to truth and when very little he was delayed / had SEN which he outgrew without any prolonged impact on his verbal fluency?

N0tAnAcadem1c · 17/08/2026 08:47

YourAmplePlumPoster · 16/08/2026 17:32

https://afcomm.org.uk/2026/01/10/emeritus-professor-title-withdrawn-critical-race-theory/
There's another academic involved in this, Dr David Harris who had his Emeritus title stripped after criticising CRT and for questioning the credentials of Arday. He also received a visit from the police and threats from Carter Ruck.

Thank you for sharing. Also of interest is the next item comparing Cambridge's response to JA unevidenced claims of racist abuse and harassment, compared with a Pakistani PG student's requests for help following very credible death threats and harassment for his academic work.

https://afcomm.org.uk/2026/08/03/cambridge-response-jason-arday-roshaan-khattak/

Cambridge’s response to Jason Arday threats raises fresh questions over Roshaan Khattak case - Committee For Academic Freedom

The Guardian's Jason Arday investigation raises fresh questions about Cambridge University's response to threats against researcher Roshaan Khattak.

https://afcomm.org.uk/2026/08/03/cambridge-response-jason-arday-roshaan-khattak/

KnottyAuty · 17/08/2026 09:15

Londonmummy66 · 16/08/2026 22:59

Not sure it does - we all know that discussion of men's sport in the workplace can be discriminatory. When I was the only female partner in my firm the only corporate entertaining we did was having a box at a football stadium. The junior men who then went and hobnobbed with partners and clients got their faces known. Few women wanted to go. One year I got them to swap it with a box at the Albert Hall - equal numbers of men and women went to the proms and more women than men to the ballet. The women got their faces better known too.

The most famous example of men picking men over better qualified women was the Berlin Phil which used to have very very few female players. WHen they switched to blind auditions (by having the candiate play behind a screen) that changed very rapidly.

Corporate hospitality is very much geared to male tastes. I had an unsolicited call from a hospitality rep recently. He tried to sell me on golf outings, a trip to see F1 and a rugby box… I laughed and politely declined/pointed out how male centric this was. It probably made no difference to his approach but it seemed a bit daft to be in sales and entirely blind to his customers’ potential preferences. Fortunately I don’t need to do the hospitality thing!

MissyGirlie · 17/08/2026 09:20

What repeatedly gets me in all this is the 'it was only plagiarism' line.

Firstly, there was more to it than that.
Secondly, plagiarism is a very big deal - or it should be.

IMHO opinion, plagiarising academics should be shown the door. Otherwise, how on earth can universities justify punishing students who plagiarise?

borntobequiet · 17/08/2026 09:28

Lalgarh · 17/08/2026 01:26

The crowdfunder for Ardays funeral has now beaten it's original target, with £110k raised.

So the new target to reach is £200k

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/jason-arday-gofundme-crowdfunder-b1293542.html

Those with experience of Leftish politics will be rolling their eyes at the quotes from Weyman Bennett about other academics being accused of more serious accusations of sexual harassment avoiding scrutiny

He is well on his way to sainthood, in a peculiarly modern fashion.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 17/08/2026 09:55

borntobequiet · 17/08/2026 09:28

He is well on his way to sainthood, in a peculiarly modern fashion.

The left are desperate for another George Floyd.

SylvanMoon · 17/08/2026 10:09

borntobequiet · 17/08/2026 09:28

He is well on his way to sainthood, in a peculiarly modern fashion.

Or at least martyrdom. I've seen posts saying that he's "been tortured". And they didn't mean that he might have been an emotionally tortured individual, but that the "right wing racist" media literally tortured him to death!

mids2019 · 17/08/2026 11:00

OK on a typical day Donald Trump is exposed to criticism, mockery, insult etc. and we would expect this in a healthy democracy. The point maybe is that if you go into our loc life (e.g. A local councillot) you need to self assessment whether you have r resilient personality unfortinately.

Jason partly sought a public life by releasing a book and obviously was opinionated and publically so on the subject of race. Why did someone not caution Jason who had deep lying neuro divergent and MH problems to not be as public especially as it was becoming obvious about the untruths which would be targetted.

a side note JKR wrote a book Harry Potter and has views (p ublic) on women S rights.. Could those complaining about the alleged mistreatment of Jaso n please co mplain similarly about the death threats made to her and constant online abuse or are you being selective in terms of who is worthy of shmapthy?

JJkate · 17/08/2026 11:13

I was discussing this case with someone a couple of weeks ago. They reacted as if it was a non story, said they hadn't heard of it, don't read the news as it's "depressing" and didn't think it was a big deal. That same person has now been in touch, is outraged, horrified and framing this as a racist witchunt over a small private matter that should have been dealt with by an employer. I have tried to explain the details and complexity and they didn't want to hear it.

JJkate · 17/08/2026 11:14

It's so ironic that those accusing others of being a baying mob are now becoming the mob.

Lalgarh · 17/08/2026 11:20

The Right Side of History doesn't need to introspect because it's right, innit

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