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Jason Arday, Cambridge Plagiarist, thread two

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Angeruish · 08/08/2026 20:39

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I have now removed the question mark after "plagiarist".

I can't believe the sequel will be as good as the original, but you never know...

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Jane379 · 11/08/2026 18:53

MissyGirlie · 11/08/2026 18:03

I have massive sympathy for Native Americans. They were appalling treated by the US over the centuries.

Nonetheless, the author Sherman Alexie, himself Native American, makes the point that they lived in harmony with nature because they had no choice, and that these days his relatives are just as likely to be chucking empty drinks cans out of the car windows as anyone else.

Yes, I like Sherman Alexie's writing a lot and as you say he has a more realistic view: in his books he writes about his Spokane tribe's traditional relationship with nature including positive elements, but he doesn't romanticise it, and he's clear that a lot of it has been lost or severely changed since the 19th century.

Carriemac · 11/08/2026 18:54

alexdgr8 · 11/08/2026 14:30

Carriemac re the railway
Did the college have Hall in its name. ?
Just wondering if it's the same person.
But i guess there are several possibles.
Unfortunately.

I actually can’t remember now .
Someone asked her to put her bag on the rack so they could sit down and she said ‘ it’s my work laptop and it needs a seat ‘

Mauvish1 · 11/08/2026 19:00

Carriemac · 11/08/2026 18:54

I actually can’t remember now .
Someone asked her to put her bag on the rack so they could sit down and she said ‘ it’s my work laptop and it needs a seat ‘

Then she should have purchased a ticket for it!

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 11/08/2026 19:04

I've read all the first thread and most of the second. It's such a fascinating and weird case.

I am a professor at a RG institution and have previously worked at a different RG and a post 92.

A few points where I think I disagree with some on this thread...maybe!

I don't think there is as much of a difference between the teaching at RGs and post 92s as some on this thread make out. Not defending LJM here for even a second. But sloppy practice like Arday's supervision is not normal in post 92 PGR supervision. I supervised umpteen PhDs at my old gaff, and they were absolutely rigorously done. Our depts also offered a solid education, often to much less advantaged students such as poorer students who needed to live at home. I'm proud to have worked there and think a lot of the rudeness is just snobbery.

I also don't think it's normal to read a job applicant's PhD before an interview. Generally, academic institutions respect others' awarding powers. You'd be warranted in assuming that a PhD awarded meant a certain quality threshold had been reached.

You would however scrutinise academic papers. Most non-professorial academic appointment panels I've served on would have something like - Head of School or equivalent, perhaps Head of Dept, 2ish members of the dept with appropriate expertise, and an academic from another discipline, such as a STEM academic for a hums appointment.

The sift would normally go like - public advert - you get lots of apps in, often well over 100. HR weed out the obvious weirdos, folk who apply for everything, those who don't meet the job spec like no PhD. The shortlisting panel (usually a subset of the interview panel) would normally do an initial cut and arrive at a longlist. At this point you'd scrutinise papers, and that would usually be the responsibility of the specialist academics. You'd then produce a shortlist which would be the interview list. Maybe 6ish people, sometimes fewer, with a couple of reserves.

Academic job interviews generally (not always) involve a presentation, often to a large group of people. When I got my first lectureship, everyone in the School was invited to witness the presentations. Sometimes it's a bespoke panel. Questions depend on the post but will often be along the lines of "talk about how your specialist research would be translated into our modules". When the presentations are done, attendees would generally produce feedback for the interview panel.

Interviews are maybe 45 mins to an hour and will test the candidates on things the dept needs. A couple of places I interviewed also had a separate "publications chat" where you had to sit down with the dept head of research or similar and work through your publication cv line by line so they could see what your eventual REF (research quality audit) return would look like.

Throughout all of that, yes EDI is important. I generally see it tested at each stage, so "why didn't we longlist any women? Should we reflect on that?" Type of thing. Which I think is appropriate

You also get a decent feel for people. Between all those interactions you usually could tell if someone was BSing.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 11/08/2026 19:21

You don't expect people in these positions of power to be that credulous or that beholden to an ideology in the same manner that gripped China during the years of the Cultural Revolution. I have Chinese friends forced into exile here. One of them was an artist in China which was considered a hideous crime during that time. She was sent to a farm for forced labour and has scars on her back as a result of carrying buckets of sewage. All this denouncing, hounding and expelling people for their views and also elevating the politically correct means we are no better than China under Mao or Russia under Stalin. The fact the elite intelligentsia here are doing it should be concerning.

LuckyHazelFox · 11/08/2026 20:08

mids2019 · 11/08/2026 19:41

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16043931/Former-student-claims-Jason-Arday-white-privilege.html

I don't really have words for this. Hope the student for some redress.

is inverse racism a thing?

The idea of white privilege and white fragility no longer has impact in today's society. It is oppressive and racist, defeating the object of trying to stamp out racism.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 11/08/2026 20:16

What I am personally fascinated by is the (??) nuggets of truth or plausibility that Arday's lies seem to stem from.

Take the marathons thing. Was it 30 in 35 days? Well that's not implausible for a fit young man. Didn't Eddie Izzard do something similar?

And doing an athletic event with a stress fracture, also possible. I believe one of the England women's football team had a stress fracture during the last WC. Lauren Hemp?

But it's the combination and escalation of those things. Did he set out to see what people would swallow? Or just get trapped in his own lies?

AnonyMumAuDHD · 11/08/2026 21:32

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 18:01

My IG I can’t link the actual video but found this mol.im/a/16038031

As far as I can see there is only the one poster/video purporting to be from a classmate/fellow Sunday school pupil.

I really WANT to believe him, but even after a DM write-up and that being repeated elsewhere, not one more childhood peer has stepped up to join him. I’m cautiously remaining on the sidelines. We only have this guys say so that he knew him, I think?

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 21:35

AnonyMumAuDHD · 11/08/2026 21:32

As far as I can see there is only the one poster/video purporting to be from a classmate/fellow Sunday school pupil.

I really WANT to believe him, but even after a DM write-up and that being repeated elsewhere, not one more childhood peer has stepped up to join him. I’m cautiously remaining on the sidelines. We only have this guys say so that he knew him, I think?

They’ve all deliberately gone to ground, many parroting the lines of this expose was down to racism.

there’s no way on god’s green earth that this guy would go on social media, publicly declare what he did and not have people dispute this if it’s not true.

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 21:48

AnonyMumAuDHD · 11/08/2026 21:32

As far as I can see there is only the one poster/video purporting to be from a classmate/fellow Sunday school pupil.

I really WANT to believe him, but even after a DM write-up and that being repeated elsewhere, not one more childhood peer has stepped up to join him. I’m cautiously remaining on the sidelines. We only have this guys say so that he knew him, I think?

Probably afraid of Carter Fuck..

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 22:22

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 11/08/2026 20:16

What I am personally fascinated by is the (??) nuggets of truth or plausibility that Arday's lies seem to stem from.

Take the marathons thing. Was it 30 in 35 days? Well that's not implausible for a fit young man. Didn't Eddie Izzard do something similar?

And doing an athletic event with a stress fracture, also possible. I believe one of the England women's football team had a stress fracture during the last WC. Lauren Hemp?

But it's the combination and escalation of those things. Did he set out to see what people would swallow? Or just get trapped in his own lies?

He must have got trapped - but was pretty unrigorous as he changed his story so many times.

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 22:24

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 21:35

They’ve all deliberately gone to ground, many parroting the lines of this expose was down to racism.

there’s no way on god’s green earth that this guy would go on social media, publicly declare what he did and not have people dispute this if it’s not true.

it's from a long time ago - sunday school - so who knows? That one guy's post is being cited as proof JA was lying, so if Cambridge and Glasgow are being castigated for not checking the facts, maybe everyone else should calm down until anything is actually proven.

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 22:28

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 22:24

it's from a long time ago - sunday school - so who knows? That one guy's post is being cited as proof JA was lying, so if Cambridge and Glasgow are being castigated for not checking the facts, maybe everyone else should calm down until anything is actually proven.

LMFAO

So universities confirm he never worked there.
quotes by Nadal redacted.

Cambridge fully supporting him the launching an investigation.

Claimed to be on 7Up and other outlandish claims but yes, let’s fact check a person who’s put his face and name to everything he states about Fraudulent being a chatty patty and a class clown.

Carter Ruck and a certain faction have their cleaners everywhere…

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 22:30

To this day, people also don’t think Jussie Smollet was a liar either.

the nefarious ideology has to remain alive and well with some.

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 22:33

YourAmplePlumPoster · 11/08/2026 19:21

You don't expect people in these positions of power to be that credulous or that beholden to an ideology in the same manner that gripped China during the years of the Cultural Revolution. I have Chinese friends forced into exile here. One of them was an artist in China which was considered a hideous crime during that time. She was sent to a farm for forced labour and has scars on her back as a result of carrying buckets of sewage. All this denouncing, hounding and expelling people for their views and also elevating the politically correct means we are no better than China under Mao or Russia under Stalin. The fact the elite intelligentsia here are doing it should be concerning.

now this is completely OTT and ahistorical. Who exactly has been hounded and denounced and expelled due to political correctness?! There's plenty of conservative academics - even extremely conservative academics, still a big gender gap in terms of professorships, and then this news today that should be of far far greater concern than someone getting a job who wasn't up to it - bylinetimes.com/2026/07/09/peter-thiel-and-reform-uks-cambridge-university-pipeline-project/

MulberryFresser · 11/08/2026 22:33

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OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 22:36

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 22:28

LMFAO

So universities confirm he never worked there.
quotes by Nadal redacted.

Cambridge fully supporting him the launching an investigation.

Claimed to be on 7Up and other outlandish claims but yes, let’s fact check a person who’s put his face and name to everything he states about Fraudulent being a chatty patty and a class clown.

Carter Ruck and a certain faction have their cleaners everywhere…

Calm down, just what's the point in whipping up such a frenzy? I'm sure the full truth will come out at some stage - and if people are all that concerned about JA's embellishments/fabulations it would do to act a bit more sensibly

AnonyMumAuDHD · 11/08/2026 22:43

Pantomime season you say, @alexdgr8 ?

I reinstate my pitch for Jason and his Technicolor Dreamscape (though I’m still hoping to sell the movie rights to Catch Me if You Can, You Racist as I can see that being oscar and BAFTA nominated)

Yorkshirelass04 · 11/08/2026 22:53

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 11/08/2026 20:16

What I am personally fascinated by is the (??) nuggets of truth or plausibility that Arday's lies seem to stem from.

Take the marathons thing. Was it 30 in 35 days? Well that's not implausible for a fit young man. Didn't Eddie Izzard do something similar?

And doing an athletic event with a stress fracture, also possible. I believe one of the England women's football team had a stress fracture during the last WC. Lauren Hemp?

But it's the combination and escalation of those things. Did he set out to see what people would swallow? Or just get trapped in his own lies?

I think this is a really great point.

What do we KNOW or have evidence for regarding JA? How has his life actually panned out?

Lalgarh · 11/08/2026 23:20

alexdgr8 · 11/08/2026 14:23

The views of dr farah ahmed sound like
Boko Haram to me.
Which is obviously worrying given her position.
Apart from all this recent hoo haa.

Oxford university have been awfully quiet about their former Professor of Islamic Studies Tariq Ramadan after his convictions for 3 rapes

https://www.cherwell.org/2026/03/31/former-oxford-professor-convicted-of-rape/

He used to regularly have columns in the guardian too but they only got as far as explaining he was on trial. He used to be their go-to source for contextualising away Jihadist violence as anti imperialist vibes, every time there was a terror attack

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/02/islam-scholar-tariq-ramadan-goes-on-trial-in-paris-accused-of-raping-three-women

Had a similar meteoric rise from primary school teacher through academia despite shonky theses that was accepted uncritically for years.

https://quillette.com/2026/04/01/the-disgrace-of-tariq-ramadan/

Former Oxford professor convicted of rape by French court - Cherwell

The prominent Oxford academic and Islamic scholar Tariq Ramadan has been sentenced by a Paris criminal court to an 18-year jail term for rape offences.

https://www.cherwell.org/2026/03/31/former-oxford-professor-convicted-of-rape/

Lougle · 11/08/2026 23:21

I've just watched some of his LEED keynote event.

https://mmutube.mmu.ac.uk/media/Welcome+and+Keynote+from+Jason+Arday+%28LEED+LT+Conference+2025%29/1_2qrfk1n6

You can download the transcript. Two things interest me. Firstly, the host says they normally have a keynote lecture, but instead they will have a 'fireside chat'. Secondly, JA dodges the questions academically, and instead talks about being kind, etc. He also says that he equates himself to a 7 year old and thinks that if a 7 year old can understand it, it's ok.

That's some pretty impressive hiding in plain sight.

Welcome and Keynote from Jason Arday (LEED L&T Conference 2025)

We Built This City: Belonging and Authenticity in Pedagogy Biography Jason Arday is Professor of Sociology of Education at the University of Cambridge, Faculty of Education, and a Professorial Fellow at Jesus College, Cambridge. He was formerly a Guest...

https://mmutube.mmu.ac.uk/media/Welcome+and+Keynote+from+Jason+Arday+(LEED+LT+Conference+2025)/1_2qrfk1n6

ThunderFog · 12/08/2026 07:40

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That's not okay to say.
Reported.
Can we keep discussion on this topic at a high standard of pointfulness and not descend into mindless aggression.

tramtracks · 12/08/2026 08:28

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 21:48

Probably afraid of Carter Fuck..

I agree with this. They are is a defamation specialist law firm - he was advised very well to instruct them. I haven’t had first hand experience of them but I am sure they will be monitoring and scraping the internet/social media for any mention of JA or his wife and family. If they aren’t then it will probably only be because the pockets of the instructing client won’t be deep enough.

Thank god for the likes of Private Eye and the Spectator etc who will stand up to threats to litigate.

I knew someone who worked part time (ex solicitor) as a cleaner for a defamation law firm. She was kept pretty busy - especially in the new(ish) age of superinjunctions. But she liked the wfh and the flexibility - so by the time I was chatting to her at a sports match at school - she’d had probably already fired off a few fear inducing emails to anyone uncovering the truth and trying to publish.

pinkdelight · 12/08/2026 08:44

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 22:22

He must have got trapped - but was pretty unrigorous as he changed his story so many times.

Exactly this. You can see it in that video where he claims to have been about to go and work for Sadiq Khan, but within the space of a few waffly sentences covers the gamut from how he was thinking of applying for a job, to having had an interview, to talking like he had an offer, but all at the same time so seems it was just something in his head that might have happened if he'd gone through with it.

He's found out that no one questions him and everyone likes the amazing stories so he trots them out with little thought or care about being realistic or consistent, same as he perched on those desks or sat on those zooms and blathered about kindness and celebs and got away with it under the banner of lived experience over academic knowledge and skills. And tbf he said that he didn't know what was going on and had the mind of a child and suchlike and people took this as some profound poetic statement and kept on raising him up.

So he kept on doing it. And is wily enough to use the police and hard lawyers to protect him from the consequences of his lies. I think it's more extraordinary that he's been caught out and been exposed than that he's got away with it. Those around him seem blindly credulous and are still not taking any responsibility.

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