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Jason Arday, Cambridge Plagiarist, thread two

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Angeruish · 08/08/2026 20:39

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I have now removed the question mark after "plagiarist".

I can't believe the sequel will be as good as the original, but you never know...

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Boiledbeetle · 11/08/2026 15:03

Boiledbeetle · 11/08/2026 14:53

I was reading reviews of his book earlier (people who had advance copies so reviews weren't based on recent events) and one of the reviews was talking about after he got to the point where he got divorced all mention of Debbie and the children disappear going forward in the book.

Found the review.

Good reads site review by Kiaran 13th June 2026:

"... Debs the young woman who Jason meets at his 1st job and eventually becomes his wife and coparent of 2 children. Because of Jason’s autism, his obsessive focus on achieving goals serves him well but it poor took a toll on his personal life and, eventually he and debs part ways. His fruit after this happens bothered me in that, while he continues to achieve great things, he never mentions his ex-wife or 2 children again. I assume this isn’t the case but it left me with wondering if he continued to have a roll in their lives..."

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 15:10

Boiledbeetle · 11/08/2026 15:03

Found the review.

Good reads site review by Kiaran 13th June 2026:

"... Debs the young woman who Jason meets at his 1st job and eventually becomes his wife and coparent of 2 children. Because of Jason’s autism, his obsessive focus on achieving goals serves him well but it poor took a toll on his personal life and, eventually he and debs part ways. His fruit after this happens bothered me in that, while he continues to achieve great things, he never mentions his ex-wife or 2 children again. I assume this isn’t the case but it left me with wondering if he continued to have a roll in their lives..."

Thank you, very interesting!

dapsnotplimsolls · 11/08/2026 15:24

I bet his ex-wife is itching to talk but won't because of the kids.

Phewmcgrew · 11/08/2026 15:25

As to this : 'It was OK for him to also explore the idea that right wingers were lower in Intelligence though - that one kept the left woke amused.'

  • I had issues with that argument he made too: but I do think it is in some ways qualitatively different to argue that than to argue that black people are the least averagely intelligent group due to race. Arguing black people are the least intelligent due to skin colour has a long and ugly history which the other one doesn't*

It comes from the same psychological drive though, doesn't it? That there is a group of people one believes is inferior to yourself and so you create rationalisations for that belief, such as that group is less intelligent that yourself and your group.

CrossPurposes · 11/08/2026 15:46

Boiledbeetle · 11/08/2026 15:03

Found the review.

Good reads site review by Kiaran 13th June 2026:

"... Debs the young woman who Jason meets at his 1st job and eventually becomes his wife and coparent of 2 children. Because of Jason’s autism, his obsessive focus on achieving goals serves him well but it poor took a toll on his personal life and, eventually he and debs part ways. His fruit after this happens bothered me in that, while he continues to achieve great things, he never mentions his ex-wife or 2 children again. I assume this isn’t the case but it left me with wondering if he continued to have a roll in their lives..."

At least three people who read an advanced copy were a little doubtful but most found it inspirational.

"The story is so hard to believe that I goggled and googled to see if was embellished. It wasn’t." 🙁

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 16:06

Phewmcgrew · 11/08/2026 14:02

As an academic it is interesting how 'normal' people perceive academia. The comments I've seen under news articles like "well hiring should be based on qualifications and performance not DEI" as if anything in academia is based on merit! It's a networking and reputation game

Well this.

Academia is a cesspit. It’s a mono-thinking, mob following pit of progressive left ideology. You can’t get on if you don’t subscribe to this way of thinking. There is a lack of challenge and curiousity. I was going to say especially in the Humanities but my husband was asked in an interview for a Hard science lectureship how he would decolonize his curriculum ( in a field that started after Britain lost its colonies…)

I know someone who has just got a professorship who is a massive full on conspiracy theorist, really insane conspiracies ( and within the area of his field). He can’t defend these conspiracies when asked enquiring questions about them. He just gets really angry. But his conspiracy theories are aligned to prog left ways of thinking so I guess they have been no barrier.

Academia needs a long slow March away from group think and towards genuine curiousity, critical thinking and academic excellence.

As an academic, I find this a bit excessive. I'm not British but I studied for my postgrad qualifications in England (MA and PhD) where the dominant narrative was fairly unquestioning about British and European culture being superior - a sort of groupthink if you like. This was particularly strong on my taught MA in the mid-1990s. The 'decolonising the curriculum' movement is often presented in a deeply shallow and superficial way but the unthinking reproduction of a canon is strongly ideological.

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 16:08

Fraudornot · 11/08/2026 09:03

@AnonyMumAuDHDthere is no way that anyone in the UK gets speech therapy from the NHS for 10 years, 3 days a week. Once a term is more likely for an hour. Particularly with ASD. Think he is absolutely telling lies about this

would it likely come via the council or NHS? He said local council

anyolddinosaur · 11/08/2026 16:16

Deleted as Farah Ahmed has already been mentioned. Wtf has gone wrong at Cambridge?

AnonyMumAuDHD · 11/08/2026 16:20

Phewmcgrew · 11/08/2026 14:02

As an academic it is interesting how 'normal' people perceive academia. The comments I've seen under news articles like "well hiring should be based on qualifications and performance not DEI" as if anything in academia is based on merit! It's a networking and reputation game

Well this.

Academia is a cesspit. It’s a mono-thinking, mob following pit of progressive left ideology. You can’t get on if you don’t subscribe to this way of thinking. There is a lack of challenge and curiousity. I was going to say especially in the Humanities but my husband was asked in an interview for a Hard science lectureship how he would decolonize his curriculum ( in a field that started after Britain lost its colonies…)

I know someone who has just got a professorship who is a massive full on conspiracy theorist, really insane conspiracies ( and within the area of his field). He can’t defend these conspiracies when asked enquiring questions about them. He just gets really angry. But his conspiracy theories are aligned to prog left ways of thinking so I guess they have been no barrier.

Academia needs a long slow March away from group think and towards genuine curiousity, critical thinking and academic excellence.

Funny isn’t it - I’m hoping to get a 2-3 year fellowship so that I can eventually go into retirement able to say ‘I was a published academic and researcher and what I wrote about may have made a small difference somewhere’.

Am rather traumatised by the derision and dismissiveness of MumsNetters with regards to ‘SAHM’ and the general feeling that we are lazy spongers off the men in our lives and have a moral and social duty to have a job - even if that involves taking a job from someone who actually needs it to feed and clothe their kids when your own DH’s income is plenty for your family needs. Having SEN children and being quite literally manacled to the home and your DC to ensure their wellbeing and development is supported and that your DH can actually hold down a job is absolutely NOT a get out. Women are only allowed to make the one set of life choices and woe betide if they deviate from MN-think.

I wanted to be able to say that in some small way what I had to contribute might be recognised as socially valuable, that I might have a personal value outside the circle of mothering my SEN kids. Something just for me… am now wondering about that, as I fear I will be replacing one set of sneering folk for another. Thanks Jason.

Marchesman · 11/08/2026 16:35

So, in the faculty of education at Cambridge, we have:

Arday who believed that we should "move away from evidence and objectivity", and instead bring to life "lived experience".

The department head, Cremin, who believes we should "move away from high-stakes testing", and that an A star at A-level "is [a] completely arbitrary thing, it doesn't signal intelligence or potential".

And an assistant research professor in the department who picks up and runs with this theme. "Farah Ahmed has explicitly attacked ‘western education’ as a ‘threat’ to Muslims, condemned democracy and integration, and criticised British schools for teaching pupils that child marriage is wrong. During her time at Cambridge, she has written that the Islamic concept of education is sharply opposed to ‘gaining literacy and numeracy and other disciplinary skills demonstrated through qualifications'." (Andrew Gilligan, The Spectator).

Would anyone in the education department who is not delusional and/or dangerous please come forward?

On a side note, and picking up on earlier comments about Arday's Martian exploits, Ahmed's Web of Science profile includes a publication about a Martian meteorite, that she didn't write. Obviously, they were in it together.

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 17:01

Do you know what I find so concerning? The amount of people on SM condemning the exposé as racist rather than looking at the clear deception that has been exhibited by this fake.

Lougle · 11/08/2026 17:09

AnonyMumAuDHD · 11/08/2026 08:09

Trying to work out if this coud possibly be correct? It would mean he would have had to have had an EHCP in place by the age of 3? I know I am cynical but we have one of the country’s leading providers of SEN education near me, admittedly taking boys from 7-18, and so I know A LOT of families and individuals who have been down this process. Whilst its a large specialist boys school, many of those families have girls and less impacted boys who are ND that go to the progressive private co ed school that is literally 2miles up the road and which mine went to. The families drop at one and then the other and we talk a lot. [As I write I am aware this is at the very least a bit outing, in terms of identifying where I live/schools my kids went to. Eek.]

Getting an EHCP for most of those families was utterly unobtainable by the age of three. For may - most even - it took 2-3 years of extensive, multiagency clinical specialist input (which, due to waiting lists, also involved years’ long waiting lists), for more than half, it involved taking the LEA/LA to court, costing them £20-40K over several years because the school is technically a private one, even though 70% of the students (now) are funded by LAs all over the region.

The private speech therapist we used was recommended by contacts at this school because the waitlist under the NHS referral scheme, even with GP/HV and other supporting referrers involved, was months long and led to an mere 8 session course of 1 hour a fortnight and a load of ‘worksheets’ for things to do at home with mummy. I was eventually able to feed it into an IEP (Individual Education Plan) arranged in their states schools (they started in the state system), but even then they did not suggest or promote referral for an EHCP, or autism assessment, or any kind of ed psych review at all. Hence my kids not being diagnosed until their teens and only then because I coincidentally did an Open Uni degree in psychology and did a module and dissertation on autism to better understand a much younger half brother who had been diagnosed. Ie there was no help, no proactive support, no awareness that speech therapy could help, that intensive ed psych assessment was warranted, that all of this could be provided by the state - let alone expedited by the age of three. And I am in a wealthy, well funded (at the time) LA, and my kids started at the no 1 state primary school acc to the Times where the HT was best buddies with Gove and advising on national policy.

So I am unsure that I really believe this fairy tale. It bears no similarity with mine or, and no exaggeration, the dozens upon dozens of other families and parents I have known over the last 20 years, many of them quite intimately as we have held each other and cried together with frustration and heartbreak over the years. One of the issues I have with his story is the way it misrepresents the support that is available [SHOULD be available], sets an expectation of a prompt, responsive and extensive care and intervention package that I have never seen offered or had access to myself. For families at the start of the journey, who find that they do not get that support, it spins the narrative that their children too might have gone on to become Cambridge Dons, but for some extra speech therapy.

NB typos and SPAG errors all my own, but enhanced by early morning caffein deficit.

Edited

It's hard to say. DD1 was one of the (at the time) 4 per 1000 girls who had a Statement of Special Educational Needs and went to Special School at the age of 4. So fairly rare. She wasn't non-verbal but did have disordered speech that the SALT insisted on calling delayed. She is now, at the age of 20, assessed as having a severe receptive and expressive language disorder. The only direct SALT she got from the SALT team was some articulation work to try and make her sound her 'g's (it didn't work). All other work was done by class TAs.

I would find it astonishing that a child who was preverbal would get such intense therapy, but I have no evidence to refute it, so I won't say it's untrue.

(Typo)

YourAmplePlumPoster · 11/08/2026 17:22

Re the above. In his autobiography it was his Mum who devoted herself to helping him. I could well believe that. I've read up a bit on decolonising science and it mainly appears to be about indigenous people in various continents valuing their environment and land more than capitalists who have trashed it. That seems a worthy value to pursue so I wouldn't knock that. Our environment has been cruelly treated over the years.

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 17:29

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 17:01

Do you know what I find so concerning? The amount of people on SM condemning the exposé as racist rather than looking at the clear deception that has been exhibited by this fake.

Are people really really saying that? Are they not just citing the 'racial scientist' who was instrumental in drawing attention to Arday's issues?

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 17:43

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 17:29

Are people really really saying that? Are they not just citing the 'racial scientist' who was instrumental in drawing attention to Arday's issues?

I follow various accounts such as the shade borough and the amount of people in my community saying this is a racist witch hunt, is shocking.

Despite black people from his old church exposing his lies too n

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 17:56

YourAmplePlumPoster · 11/08/2026 17:22

Re the above. In his autobiography it was his Mum who devoted herself to helping him. I could well believe that. I've read up a bit on decolonising science and it mainly appears to be about indigenous people in various continents valuing their environment and land more than capitalists who have trashed it. That seems a worthy value to pursue so I wouldn't knock that. Our environment has been cruelly treated over the years.

I'd agree here but I'd also say that indigenous cultures can be overly romanticised. I'm interested in Native American tribes in particular and David Treuer is one who argues (in his book Native American Fiction : A User's Manual) that people often talk as if Native Americans lived in harmony with the earth before the Mayflower etc when there's evidence of severe overhunting of some species and damage to various parts of the environment pre-colonisation too . It's also a perpetual unknown whether Native Americans would have behaved similarly if they had had access to European technology etc
I do agree overall that ways of living eitg the environment pre-modern capitalism are valuable to investigate, though.

38thparallel · 11/08/2026 17:57

As to this : 'It was OK for him to also explore the idea that right wingers were lower in Intelligence though - that one kept the left woke amused.

There are quite a few posters on mumsnet who believe right wingers and also anyone who voted brexit are lower in intelligence,( even though the latter are not confined to right wingers).

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 18:00

DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 17:43

I follow various accounts such as the shade borough and the amount of people in my community saying this is a racist witch hunt, is shocking.

Despite black people from his old church exposing his lies too n

'black people from his old church exposing his lies too'

  • do you have any links to this? I'd be interested to see.
DestituteDesperate · 11/08/2026 18:01

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 18:00

'black people from his old church exposing his lies too'

  • do you have any links to this? I'd be interested to see.

My IG I can’t link the actual video but found this mol.im/a/16038031

MissyGirlie · 11/08/2026 18:03

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 17:56

I'd agree here but I'd also say that indigenous cultures can be overly romanticised. I'm interested in Native American tribes in particular and David Treuer is one who argues (in his book Native American Fiction : A User's Manual) that people often talk as if Native Americans lived in harmony with the earth before the Mayflower etc when there's evidence of severe overhunting of some species and damage to various parts of the environment pre-colonisation too . It's also a perpetual unknown whether Native Americans would have behaved similarly if they had had access to European technology etc
I do agree overall that ways of living eitg the environment pre-modern capitalism are valuable to investigate, though.

Edited

I have massive sympathy for Native Americans. They were appalling treated by the US over the centuries.

Nonetheless, the author Sherman Alexie, himself Native American, makes the point that they lived in harmony with nature because they had no choice, and that these days his relatives are just as likely to be chucking empty drinks cans out of the car windows as anyone else.

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 11/08/2026 18:11

This from the BBC coverage of JA's appointment - Cambridge absolutely presented him as an exceptional scholar

www.instagram.com/reel/DbzDZxPBcvi/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

YourAmplePlumPoster · 11/08/2026 18:34

I don't blame him as much as I blame the panel of academics who over promoted him and are now all in hiding, trying to cover their tracks and will happily throw him under a bus to protect their asses. Another blog has mentioned one of the academics whom I won't name here as being instrumental in trying to get rid of Nathan Cofnas not for his controversial views but because he got wind of him being a whistle blower. They all appear to be despicable cowards, toeing an ideological line. It's all beginning to sound like Soviet Russia or the Stasi. Well we know Cambridge was always a great recruiting ground for Russian Spies!

38thparallel · 11/08/2026 18:38

YourAmplePlumPoster · Today 18:34
I don't blame him as much as I blame the panel of academics who over promoted him and are now all in hiding, trying to cover their tracks and will happily throw him under a bus to protect their asses

This. Going into hiding when under pressure shows poor leadership qualities.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 11/08/2026 18:39

MissyGirlie · 11/08/2026 18:03

I have massive sympathy for Native Americans. They were appalling treated by the US over the centuries.

Nonetheless, the author Sherman Alexie, himself Native American, makes the point that they lived in harmony with nature because they had no choice, and that these days his relatives are just as likely to be chucking empty drinks cans out of the car windows as anyone else.

They are probably over romanticised by mainly white people. On the other hand, there was a great romantic tradition in Western art to eulogise about nature such as in the poems of Wordsworth, Byron and Shelley, the paintings of Caspar David Friedrich and various composers such as Walton and Mahler.

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 18:50

YourAmplePlumPoster · 11/08/2026 18:39

They are probably over romanticised by mainly white people. On the other hand, there was a great romantic tradition in Western art to eulogise about nature such as in the poems of Wordsworth, Byron and Shelley, the paintings of Caspar David Friedrich and various composers such as Walton and Mahler.

'On the other hand, there was a great romantic tradition in Western art to eulogise about nature' - definitely, and that can be very positive. Like a lot of elements of the Romantic movement, though, it can be taken too far.

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