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Private school pupils banned from work experience in hospitals

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beelegal · 17/08/2025 15:16

“Pupils who want to be doctors 'barred' from vital work experience at NHS hospitals - because they go to private school”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15007121/amp/doctors-work-experience-NHS-hospitals-private-school.html

This will be extended to all civil service jobs.
Bridgitte Philipson is a nasty bully. What next, private school pupils to sit on certain sections on buses? I cannot wait until the next general election, this shower need a wipeout.

Private school students 'barred' from work experience at NHS hospitals

Some of the UK's largest hospital trusts have effectively barred private-school pupils who want to be doctors from undertaking vital NHS work experience.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15007121/amp/doctors-work-experience-NHS-hospitals-private-school.html

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bumbaloo · 17/08/2025 17:59

Summerhillsquare · 17/08/2025 15:39

When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression, eh?

But it’s not equality is it

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 17/08/2025 17:59

bumbaloo · 17/08/2025 17:58

You don’t know anything about medical school acceptance do you.

to apply to medical school (or vet med) there us a criteria of work experience. If you don’t have the relevant work experience (and I think it’s something like 10 weeks) you won’t get a place.

Yes, I really, really do.

Don’t bother.

bumbaloo · 17/08/2025 18:00

FrodoBiggins · 17/08/2025 17:57

Yes i think private school = posh
No i don't think state school = chavs.

HTH

Well you’d be wrong then wouldn’t you.

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:00

bldy · 17/08/2025 16:44

How do you respond to Sutton Trust who state that top 200 state schools are as "privileged" as the top independent schools?

@twistyizzy that's interesting, can you link to that? Certainly there are very privileged dc i state schools but I can't see any state school with a cohort as privileged as say Eton?

Really? I've posted a link to 1 ie Oratory.
The top London state schools plus state boarding schools are certainly privileged because of the wealth of parents who choose them eg cost of house in their catchments.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2025 18:00

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 17/08/2025 17:52

People don’t ‘belong’ in the medical profession or any other high-skill role unless they’re good enough. You can’t become, or be inspired to become (except in vanishingly rare cases), a doctor unless you’re clever and able.

Nothing will change that.

Except if the degradation of the profession of medicine that we’re seeing now continues. In which case it will become like teaching: any low-rent or dullard will be able to claim the title.

But the point is some kids ARE good enough.

But they don’t have the parents or confidence to help them realise this.

Lots of very very able students come from disadvantaged backgrounds. They just don’t realise their ability due to circumstance.

travellinglighter · 17/08/2025 18:01

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 17:57

Uummm 18% are educated at independent schools at A-level ie 6th form

Nope, 7% of school pupils are educated privately in the U.K. I mean I googled it and almost all of the information I saw said between 6 and 7%. Even if it was 18%, they are still hugely over represented.

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:01

bldy · 17/08/2025 16:45

@twistyizzy I know plenty of dc who went to The Oratory, what's your point?

My dc's state has a swimming pool and 4G pitch.

My post was in reply to a PP who said all children in independent schools are posh, and all ones in state schools aren't. So I used The Oratory as an example of why that isn't true.

yesImfat · 17/08/2025 18:03

This is ridiculous! Nobody should be shut out from this type of opportunity.

FrodoBiggins · 17/08/2025 18:03

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:01

My post was in reply to a PP who said all children in independent schools are posh, and all ones in state schools aren't. So I used The Oratory as an example of why that isn't true.

Please please do yourself a favour and save yourself time arguing with yourselfabout your own mistake, just read back my posts and realise I did not at any point say that "all [children] in state schools aren't [posh]" x

PeonyBulb · 17/08/2025 18:03

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twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:04

FrodoBiggins · 17/08/2025 17:57

Yes i think private school = posh
No i don't think state school = chavs.

HTH

So, like I said, you are a reverse snob and base your view on very narrow stereotypes. Do you know any children at independent schools?
Do you know that 25-30% of children at independent schools are on fee assistance?
Military families who the MoD pay the fees?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2025 18:04

nearlylovemyusername · 17/08/2025 17:23

My DC were at private. All teachers were degree educated, highly intelligent, speaking BBC English. Just saying...

ETA: Critical thinking was taught from Y1.
CATS were first tested in Y4. Year average for both DCs were 121. National average 100.

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I’m not sure what you’re saying.

Teaching is mainly a degree entry profession ( there are exceptions)

Eveey teacher l worked with was articulate and all were highly intelligent. Lots with PhD’s. This is in state schools.

How can someone teach English without being articulate? And English underpins every subject.

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:05

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"working alongside privately educated entitled little twerps slumming it by getting lowly work experience in an NHS Trust through their parents nepotism or parents friends is draining unlike state school DC who are genuinely bright, able, willing and interested"

Wow just wow, you ate talking about children! What a nasty piece of work you are, discriminating and name calling children based only on the type of school they go to.

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:08

travellinglighter · 17/08/2025 18:01

Nope, 7% of school pupils are educated privately in the U.K. I mean I googled it and almost all of the information I saw said between 6 and 7%. Even if it was 18%, they are still hugely over represented.

At secondary level yes but at A level it's 18%

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:09

FrodoBiggins · 17/08/2025 18:03

Please please do yourself a favour and save yourself time arguing with yourselfabout your own mistake, just read back my posts and realise I did not at any point say that "all [children] in state schools aren't [posh]" x

I didn't make a mistake, you have. Read your post which I was responding to!

What a pleasant being you are, are you like this IRL, or just behind the safety of a screen?

FrodoBiggins · 17/08/2025 18:11

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:09

I didn't make a mistake, you have. Read your post which I was responding to!

What a pleasant being you are, are you like this IRL, or just behind the safety of a screen?

Honestly it's a lovely sunny afternoon, don't spend it upset because I flippantly described public school as posh.

nearlylovemyusername · 17/08/2025 18:13

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2025 18:04

I’m not sure what you’re saying.

Teaching is mainly a degree entry profession ( there are exceptions)

Eveey teacher l worked with was articulate and all were highly intelligent. Lots with PhD’s. This is in state schools.

How can someone teach English without being articulate? And English underpins every subject.

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I know you don't understand what I'm saying.

Oh irony.

See my post from 17:40

LoveItaly · 17/08/2025 18:13

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2025 16:07

😂yeah because state school parents aren’t ever supportive?

Talk about misunderstanding the point 🙄

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2025 18:15

nearlylovemyusername · 17/08/2025 17:40

You bothered to edit, did you check typos? assuming that yes:

Multitask - Meaning & Examples in a Sentence

So the issue is not with typos, but fundamental knowledge of grammar? I believe English is your first language?

Maybe the issues for some state schools children aren't disadvantage as such, but the teachers which put them at disadvantage?

Get lost grammar police.

Its a chat board not a PhD thesis.

CurlewKate · 17/08/2025 18:15

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 17/08/2025 17:52

People don’t ‘belong’ in the medical profession or any other high-skill role unless they’re good enough. You can’t become, or be inspired to become (except in vanishingly rare cases), a doctor unless you’re clever and able.

Nothing will change that.

Except if the degradation of the profession of medicine that we’re seeing now continues. In which case it will become like teaching: any low-rent or dullard will be able to claim the title.

I can only assume that either I expressed myself very badly or you’re deliberately misunderstanding me. No, I wasn’t saying people “belong” in the medical profession. What I was saying, obviously badly, was that some people-like my children, and probably yours- belong and feel comfortable in the stratum of society which generally speaking professional people come from. And while that’s not going to get you into a profession, it is a HUGE hurdle they don’t have to get over.

Eagle1818 · 17/08/2025 18:16

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2025 15:25

I didn’t say that.

We need less private schools. And more working class doctors. This is the first step towards it.

They don’t HAVE to go to private schools. They could just go to a state school like everyone else.

Iys great that it’s stamping out the privelisge of private education.

We need more private schools not fewer. It is absurd to suggest otherwise.

FrodoBiggins · 17/08/2025 18:17

CurlewKate · 17/08/2025 18:15

I can only assume that either I expressed myself very badly or you’re deliberately misunderstanding me. No, I wasn’t saying people “belong” in the medical profession. What I was saying, obviously badly, was that some people-like my children, and probably yours- belong and feel comfortable in the stratum of society which generally speaking professional people come from. And while that’s not going to get you into a profession, it is a HUGE hurdle they don’t have to get over.

Exactly

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:18

FrodoBiggins · 17/08/2025 18:11

Honestly it's a lovely sunny afternoon, don't spend it upset because I flippantly described public school as posh.

You then described children from independent schools as "entitled little twerps". That's all I need to know about you.

I imagine you would rightly kick off if I called all kids from state schools as "thick little chavs". I wouldn't do that though cos I'm not a twat and it isn't true because children aren't 1 homogenous group of people.

alderleywedge · 17/08/2025 18:21

This is good news as far as I'm concerned. My DD is a medical student and we know a number of doctors who got their DC in for work experience, despite our local Trust not allowing work experience. Schemes should absolutely be targeting those who are much more likely to have barriers to entry.

FrodoBiggins · 17/08/2025 18:22

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 18:18

You then described children from independent schools as "entitled little twerps". That's all I need to know about you.

I imagine you would rightly kick off if I called all kids from state schools as "thick little chavs". I wouldn't do that though cos I'm not a twat and it isn't true because children aren't 1 homogenous group of people.

Oh right sorry for my comments then I think we got mixed up. I didn't say the "twerps" thing that was someone else. Fwiw I wouldn't say that and think that's wrong. I have no issue with private school kids (even if I think it's OK to call them posh) but I also support initiatives to widen participation.