Private school pupils banned from work experience in hospitals

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“Pupils who want to be doctors 'barred' from vital work experience at NHS hospitals - because they go to private school”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15007121/amp/doctors-work-experience-NHS-hospitals-private-school.html

This will be extended to all civil service jobs.
Bridgitte Philipson is a nasty bully. What next, private school pupils to sit on certain sections on buses? I cannot wait until the next general election, this shower need a wipeout.

Significantly more than there are in state funded schools. Strangely enough, even when they apply for a Y7 place (as is their right), they still end up withdrawing their acceptance once the deposit's paid on their actual intended destination.

Really? So the 1 million parents in independent schools have more contacts than the 18milluon parents who use state schools? Can you talk me through that one please.....
Remember state parents include: Starmer et al.

that can’t be the case as someone else identified earlier. If you look at the amount of doctors in the country vs private school places, there will be far more doctors who send their children state than private. I am not entirely sure many doctors can afford private school these days anyway

The problem is once the right wing media jumps on any of these schemes the result is the opposite. Most successful people, whatever school their kids are educated in, have a large professional network and so do their kids. This kind of thing being advertised just leads to doubling down on making a call to a mate to ensure your kid gets the work experience. It tends to be quid pro quo amongst friends - I will get your DC the experience, you do it for mine.
This should not be about state vs private. Priority places should be offered for kids from genuinely disadvantaged backgrounds with no parents who went to uni or who have deprivation factors. So no state school kids with professional uni educated parents or on higher than average income. Then nobody would complain about it.
Labour just keep stoking class war to detract from the fact that the North East has ever worsening results in GCSE and A level compared to London/South East.

As private school children now seem to be unfairly the recipients of labours bonkers levelling down policies (why improve bad schools when you can try to ruin good ones?), if I’m ever in the position of employing a person where I have 2 equally good candidates, I’ll choose the private school one, in the interests of fairness. I know that’s ok since Labour are recommending choice based on schools.

Yep don't even get me started on the NE results!

And was you who told me the other day that Bridget has cancelled the Eton in the NE scheme?

Yep the proposed Middlesbrough one

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/politicians-react-strongly-eton-star-30223114

And it now isn't going ahead at all

This poster will obviously enjoy it.

I sincerely wish them to be treated by a doctor who got there through contextual.

And now actually cancelled, I believe. 😡

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Yes

I didn’t say not very clever.

I said l’d taught kids who were brighter than those who’d applied to med school. I didn’t say the ones who’d applied to med school weren’t bright. But that some students were very very clever but didn’t have the same advantages as the less bright but still clever kids.

Agree with this, it should not be about which school the children go to but should depend on how underprivileged their background is.

My Dd is at a private school ( not interested in medicine ) but her best friend's parents own a Chinese takeaway, does not speak English, can’t understand how the whole university system work, save to send her to the private school ( not sure if this friend is on bursary ) should she not get any help and encouragement in gaining work experience because she goes to a private school ?
We both are doctors but majority of my colleagues send their children to state school, go for a three holidays a year, live in a nice area etc ., So, they will gain access to work experience because of their school

Not a well thought out policy!!

This!
it seems like posters are fine with private educated kids having the leg up but not schemes to try and make it more equal.

That's nothing to do with it. Read the thread and comments

If I could have afforded to send my child to private school, I would have done so in a heartbeat. My dd is now a young adult, and has turned out well with a good job, but it was a struggle. State schools are dire. Too many pupils in state schools don’t want to be there, don’t perform well and distract others in the class who do want to study. My dd was easily distracted, and got involved in unsuitable friendship groups which resulted in her grades, previously excellent in her small village primary school, to decline. Her cousin who attended a private school was with children who wanted to work hard, because they came from families who wanted them to, and who were behind them. She sailed through school and didn’t have the struggles I had with my dd. And not all private school attendees come from wealthy families. My niece’s family had to sacrifice a lot to get her through school.

It’s easier to lower people than to improve in Labours view!

Its not about making people more successful, it’s about making the “rich” less successful…

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That's very flawed logic. As a student in a school (state or private), your contacts are restricted to the parents of other students and people they know; alumni of the school and possibly any contacts the school has built up.

They don't have contact with the parents of the millions of other students who happen to use the same type of school. Although actually private schools are more likely to have intra-school networks than state ones.

They can easily get a job in a care home, lots of would be doctors worked as HCAs as did my state educated DC who is a Dr now

So again, how do 1 million parents have more connections than 18 million?
You're logic is the flawed one. I am in no doubt that no one is going to offer my DD anything just because she went to a small rural independent school in the NE. Most of her cohort have farmers as parents, not doctors.
You are basing your logic on the top independent schools which make up approx 1% of the sector.

Sorry to pick at this but just irritated me the way "middle class" is used to mean rich on this site. Only 7% of kids go to private school you have to be very wealthy to afford them fees middle class kids at regular schools are not their counterparts.

Middle means middle that's the hill I'm dying on

I don't think either of us have any idea how "doctor contacts" are spread amongst state and private schools. It's likely that there are a lot of parents in state schools that have no useful contacts. And "contacts" is always cited as a reason to choose private school.

I agree it's likely that 18 million parents will have more contacts than 1 million, but it's no good to a state school student in Liverpool that there are loads of doctor parents in leafy home counties state schools. What's important is the number of contacts an individual might have.

Your DD might not have any contacts in her cohorts but private schools are very good at keeping in touch with alumni, and also with making connections across schools, so she is in a better place than an equivalent student at a rural state school.

Affluent parents also tend to make friends with other affluent people, so whilst there may be no actual doctor parents in the school, there is more of a good chance that a parent might be friends with one.

Or, put it another way. Do you really think it's more likely your DD will find a doctor contact if she went to a rural state school instead?