Play date with mum who agrees with education tax

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Please let me know if I’m overreacting. I recently overheard a new mum at school talking about a local private school closing down due to the education tax and how this is somehow a good thing. She’s now invited my DD for a play date, would you accept?

I don't think that polling allows biased questions like that 😂

No, it probably doesn’t allow questions which point out the reality of the situation. Those in favour often think it’s a simple question regarding “unfairness” without understanding how it works or the consequences it will have.

Sorry with all the things going on in the world expecting us to feel deep sympathy for children from supportive loving wealthy families moving to schools that my own dc have happily attended for years just isn’t going to happen!

Others would say 'Is it fair to be able to avoid VAT to buy an education out of reach of the vast majority that will perpetuate privilege throughout a person's life?'.

No one’s talking about deep sympathy. You’re also ignoring all the job losses resulting from a school’s closure, from the head teacher to the dinner ladies. No deep sympathy for them either, I guess.

You’re also assuming all the parents are wealthy, and you’re also assuming the local schools are ones your DC would have attended happily.

An example - a friend sank her life savings into private school because her DD was being bullied at the prestigious grammar school she was at and that school did nothing.

Ok fair enough, my mistake. Thanks for explaining it.

It’s so strange to read the education of children described as ‘perpetuate privilege throughout a persons life’. I guess it’s technically correct, just reads odd.

Exactly. It's biased language so would be completely inappropriate for public opinion polling. That was my point.

Ah I see, yes I agree.

That’s depressing reading, Brexiteers strike again!

I’m sure she hates private education, not the actual kids

Where's your evidence of the correlation between voting for Brexit and agreeing with VAT on private education? I'd argue it was the opposite with right wingers more likely to support Brexit and be anti taxation but interested to see your sources.

Mainly that education tax was only made possible by Brexit and that they are similar spite policies.

Is this your normal response to disagreements on your opinions as it's unhealthy to simply write off people with differing views as spiteful, stupid and hateful.

Ha ha, possibly. It’s clear education tax and Brexit are stupid and spiteful acts though.

Well if you’re sure then I’m satisfied, thanks for clearing the misunderstanding up.

Nothing wrong with distancing yourself from people who dont have the same values as you. Usually snowballs

Do you mean snowflakes? Pretty sure snowballs are for snow fights and drinking.

The poster is referring to the verb 'to snowball'.

I was furious about the Brexit vote but it taught me a lot. Not to assume what I held as self evident truths were shared by the majority, that calling or implying people stupid will never change their minds and that the biggest mistake is not really listening to people who disagree with me whilst ascribing them bad motives. It's made me wiser and I challenge myself and my opinions. I recommend surrounding yourself with people who disagree with you and really actively listening. It's not about changing your mind, it's about being able to engage maturely and having a more rounded perspective on those at different ends of the political spectrum.

It’s also metaphor for something gathering momentum and getting larger at an increasing rates, in this case a desire to close down schools because they are good schools you can’t afford could later lead to even more sinister views. Best to stop it before it starts, life is short.

Dude, it’s an education tax. How much self challenging can you do with that?

I think this thread has run its course. Thanks for the posts.

Brexit was definitely stupid. VAT on this luxury education, which can be avoided by choosing a state schools, is perfectly logical. If I was ever to choose to send dd, I'd be happy to pay it, in the same way I pay VAT for most other things I want to buy.

You're talking as if education is being taxed. It's not. One elite type of education, which is out of reach of most children in the country, happens in a business that is being taxed by the normal business tax rate.