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Boys do better in single sex classes in English

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tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 10:35

This article in the Observer today suggests boys do better with a smaller number of girls in the class. My brother is the researcher named! It's for his PHd!

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Freckle · 27/04/2008 11:02

So, are you posting this because you agree with the results of the study???

Although I have to say that I have heard of research which has come to a similar conclusion.

cornsilk · 27/04/2008 11:03

So what about girls? Do they do better in sngle sex classes as well?

tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 11:15

I'm posting this because I'm proud of my bro! But also because it has relevance more lots of people here.

I do know it's a very quantitave (sp?) study - my brother is a mathematician and economist, so it's done statistically.

I've argued the toss a little bit, as I think my ds1 does better for having the girls, but he is excellent at English, and very proactive about contributing in class. He is also great friends with some of the girls, so doesn't suffer the 'english is for girls'! But I could see generally that it could be true across the board.

I'd always heard that girls did better in single sex classes, boys in mixed, but my brother tells me that this is the case in maths and science, but not in English, which is interesting.

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Freckle · 27/04/2008 11:25

That's probably because maths and sciences are seen to be more "male" subjects than English, so perhaps boys are more proactive in those subjects. If a child feels they are not as good as others at a subject (viz. boys feeling girls are better at English), then they will hold back and be less likely to get involved.

tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 11:33

And perhaps teachers expect more of boys in maths and science, and less in english?

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tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 11:49

bump! Everyone come and say how clever my little bro is!

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tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 12:20

bump

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TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 27/04/2008 12:31

You must be very Proud!

I'm too new to education to have an opinion although having watched a class of 8 boys and 2 girls (4/5yo) in their first swimming lesson on Saturday, I deduce that more attention would have been paid to the teacher had there been 7 less boys...

tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 12:32

hahahaha DofNorks - can you imagine how many times that was said at my wedding????

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Judy1234 · 27/04/2008 12:41

I did deliberately pick a private school that was all boys because I want my twins to have a boy education, where the books are suitable for boys, where normal boy behaviour is not seen as bad behaviour, where they aren't constantly compared with girls who are very different and often ahead of boys at primary level, where rugby and football etc are the themes the class will use and they will at least for some lessons be taught by men. So this research does not surprise me.

tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 12:47

That's interesting xenia - I hadn't thought of the 'behaviour' side, but I do know that in my area of music (largely chorister training) it doesn't work to mix boys and girls, as you end up with a girls choir, whereas a boys only choir can be very successful.

The teachers being men is important too I think - ds1's mixed state school has a headmaster, and I do think ds1 really benefits from this.

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ButterflyMcQueen · 27/04/2008 12:49

i had heard boys feel more free to express themselves in single sex education - free from the shackles of their machismo

tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 14:09

That's interesting too Butterfly!

Any more thoughts?

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Trolleydolly71 · 27/04/2008 14:13

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tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 14:39

lol trolleydolly!

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TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 27/04/2008 19:52

I do have ghastly English but I did acquire the manners not to criticise other peoples mistakes.

tortoiseSHELL · 27/04/2008 20:51
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Trolleydolly71 · 28/04/2008 10:34

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