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VAT on school fees (you have to read this!)

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EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 31/08/2024 18:11

Government’s private schools VAT raid ‘could cost taxpayer £1.8bn’

Parents who are forced out of sector are likely to work less or even quit jobs, according to think tank research.

Adam Smith Institute.

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Perfect28 · 31/08/2024 22:10

Nobody. Pretty sure spending your days lunching and at the gym is helping precisely nobody except yourself though.

twistyizzy · 31/08/2024 22:11

Beekeepingmum · 31/08/2024 21:58

But your view of paying as little tax as possible is the standard Tory view point?

I hope with that attitude you are paying voluntary extra tax?

Kitte321 · 31/08/2024 22:12

Perfect28 · 31/08/2024 22:10

Nobody. Pretty sure spending your days lunching and at the gym is helping precisely nobody except yourself though.

You sound like a barrel of laughs.

Labraradabrador · 31/08/2024 22:12

Perfect28 · 31/08/2024 22:10

Nobody. Pretty sure spending your days lunching and at the gym is helping precisely nobody except yourself though.

What a lack of imagination! Can you think of nothing better to do when not working than eating and working out?

twistyizzy · 31/08/2024 22:13

Perfect28 · 31/08/2024 22:10

Nobody. Pretty sure spending your days lunching and at the gym is helping precisely nobody except yourself though.

Who says I would go to the gym and lunch? Or are you just projecting misogynistic stereotypes on to me?

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 31/08/2024 22:14

Perfect28 · 31/08/2024 22:10

Nobody. Pretty sure spending your days lunching and at the gym is helping precisely nobody except yourself though.

You do realise that you come across as supremely bitter and twisted, right?

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twistyizzy · 31/08/2024 22:15

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 31/08/2024 22:14

You do realise that you come across as supremely bitter and twisted, right?

They are coming across as a basic misogynist

Brighton2025 · 31/08/2024 22:15

@twistyizzy I hope you don't go to the gym or out for lunch!!! You evil human!!!

twistyizzy · 31/08/2024 22:16

Brighton2025 · 31/08/2024 22:15

@twistyizzy I hope you don't go to the gym or out for lunch!!! You evil human!!!

Trust me I don't do either! They tend not to have gyms in the middle of fields

Labraradabrador · 31/08/2024 22:16

Brighton2025 · 31/08/2024 22:15

@twistyizzy I hope you don't go to the gym or out for lunch!!! You evil human!!!

Ironically the only time I regularly went out for lunch or went to the gym was when I was working full time!

Perfect28 · 31/08/2024 22:16

Literal examples from a previous post.
You've just ignored my points on women.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 31/08/2024 22:17

Brighton2025 · 31/08/2024 22:15

@twistyizzy I hope you don't go to the gym or out for lunch!!! You evil human!!!

HAHAHA

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Brighton2025 · 31/08/2024 22:18

@Perfect28 I go for lunch and go to the gym, I also get my nails done. Does this mean we can't be friends?

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 31/08/2024 22:18

Brighton2025 · 31/08/2024 22:18

@Perfect28 I go for lunch and go to the gym, I also get my nails done. Does this mean we can't be friends?

😁

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6ksn · 31/08/2024 22:18

What I don’t really understand is how it’s going to raise money when schools are able to offset VAT on capex. A school near me has just upgraded their sports pitches for ££££££. It’ll wipe out whatever VAT they collect on the fees.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 31/08/2024 22:20

6ksn · 31/08/2024 22:18

What I don’t really understand is how it’s going to raise money when schools are able to offset VAT on capex. A school near me has just upgraded their sports pitches for ££££££. It’ll wipe out whatever VAT they collect on the fees.

Many PS front loaded CAPEX for that reason.

Subsequent years will be trickier of course.

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mathanxiety · 31/08/2024 22:21

Dibblydoodahdah · 31/08/2024 22:07

I find it sickening that despite me saving the taxpayer £100k by educating both my DC’s privately for primary, the Labour Party have manipulated voters to believe that I have been getting a “tax break”.

It's really disingenuous to claim the virtue of saving the taxpayer £100k by sending your children to a private primary. Did your choice bring no benefits whatsoever to your children?

Parsley1234 · 31/08/2024 22:22

@EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime its not about the Vat is it it’s a smoke screen of bullshit

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 31/08/2024 22:24

Parsley1234 · 31/08/2024 22:22

@EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime its not about the Vat is it it’s a smoke screen of bullshit

Thanks for that - hugely insightful.

I must confess, I am also struggling with the imagery in your post.

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mathanxiety · 31/08/2024 22:25

ZebraF · 31/08/2024 21:26

I have over 20 years experience in my specialist clinical nhs role. I will continue in my current job while we need the money for school fees but once DC are in state school I will walk away. There is no incentive to continue in a demanding, stressful job if we have been priced out of the school which best suits our DC’s needs. The nhs will struggle to find a replacement for my skills and experience.

Bizarre.

twistyizzy · 31/08/2024 22:26

Parsley1234 · 31/08/2024 22:22

@EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime its not about the Vat is it it’s a smoke screen of bullshit

Would that be the smokescreen of VAT that Labour use to hide the fact that they aren't investing any serious funding in state education?

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 31/08/2024 22:26

mathanxiety · 31/08/2024 22:25

Bizarre.

It’s called free will.

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Flibflobflibflob · 31/08/2024 22:27

The bottom line is will this policy result in more money for the government or less. It doesn’t matter how people feel about private schools etc unless you want VAT on schools to reduce the number of private schools because you dislike them for some reason. It doesn’t do the country any good if a policy decision causes a loss to the coffers, that impacts everyone.

There is nothing wrong with someone reducing their hours if they no longer have high outgoings. No-one is obliged to work if they aren’t asking anyone for any money.

Flibflobflibflob · 31/08/2024 22:28

mathanxiety · 31/08/2024 22:25

Bizarre.

I don’t think it’s bizarre, she said her job is stressful, she is not obliged to carry on in a role she only does to pay for school fees if there are no school fees.

Dibblydoodahdah · 31/08/2024 22:29

mathanxiety · 31/08/2024 22:21

It's really disingenuous to claim the virtue of saving the taxpayer £100k by sending your children to a private primary. Did your choice bring no benefits whatsoever to your children?

It’s not disingenuous when private school parents are being made out to be tax dodgers for the purposes of voter manipulation. We’re talking purely about taxation here.

As for benefits for my children, the key reason for them attending private primary was the excellent wrap around care and on site extra curriculars which meant I could keep working in my career. There was no wrap around care at our local primary and it’s difficult to get a childminder or after school nanny in our very rural location. I was not prepared for my DC to miss out on extra curriculars or support with their homework so I would have given up work had I chose to send them to the local state primary.

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