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Would you pursue this with the school?

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Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:12

I found out during the Easter holidays that DC’s teacher left suddenly a fortnight before the holidays started. Nobody was informed until the email arrived earlier this week. The teacher had only worked there since Christmas. There’s a replacement teacher taking over after the holidays.

I’m concerned that the teacher left so suddenly. My thinking is that if nothing was amiss the school would have made him work his notice, at least until Easter. The fact he left so suddenly makes me think he’s been sacked for some unknown incident.

Would you ask the school for clarification? Do I have the right to demand it? At the very least I want to know if he quit or was sacked - and if he was sacked, why.

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WaitingfortheTardis · 14/04/2024 15:16

Move on.

SilkFloss · 14/04/2024 15:17

OP, are you taking on board ANYTHING that people are telling you here? Or are you just determined to persist with your entrenched view that this is something you're entitled to know?
Because we're going round in circles here.

KingscoteStaff · 14/04/2024 15:17

If he started at Christmas, he was almost certainly agency staff. He therefore only needed to give a week’s notice.

He was your DC’s class teacher for 9 weeks, but may have been offered a better job, needed to return home unexpectedly, had an offer to go travelling - the benefit of agency work is the lack of ties!

The new summer term teacher will probably be agency staff again - so be super nice to him/her and they may stay til the end of the year!

AitkenDrum1970 · 14/04/2024 15:18

Probably decided to finish teaching because having to deal with parents like you, OP, is just too much for most of us! We’re all only human and there’s only so much we can take.

Shinyandnew1 · 14/04/2024 15:19

KingscoteStaff · 14/04/2024 15:17

If he started at Christmas, he was almost certainly agency staff. He therefore only needed to give a week’s notice.

He was your DC’s class teacher for 9 weeks, but may have been offered a better job, needed to return home unexpectedly, had an offer to go travelling - the benefit of agency work is the lack of ties!

The new summer term teacher will probably be agency staff again - so be super nice to him/her and they may stay til the end of the year!

This!

OP, you are starting to sound hysterical now which won’t be doing your child any good at all. Perhaps you should home school if you want such intense control over their interactions.

saraclara · 14/04/2024 15:20

I'm afraid that your child's autism does not trump the teacher's privacy. If you want to go to the head and day that in future you'd like to be warned promptly of any changes in staffing, due to your DD 's condition, you would be reasonable to do so. But it is not reasonable to demand to know why he left.

My husband was working as a highly experienced and much loved teacher one day, then gone the next. It infuriates me that someone like you would make it all about you, assume he was incompetent, AND ACTUALLY BE GLAD to discover that he left for devastating personal and health reasons (which parents only found out about months later).

Seriously, you're a sick person to be hoping that that teacher is going through what my late husband was.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 14/04/2024 15:21

More likely the teacher wasn't very good
Equally if the teacher was sacked because he wasn’t very good then I should know that my child hasn’t been receiving proper teaching!

And what would you be able to do about that, retrospectively? I'm afraid you're going to have to accepr that schools simply do not have to inform parents about their staffing decisions or their reasons for them. Sometimes a teacher isn't very good. Sometimes a teacher leaves unexpectedly. If you expect otherwise, you're going to be disappointed.

SlashBeef · 14/04/2024 15:22

If he's done something terrible/criminal you won't find out about it unless it's in the press or your child is directly impacted.
My friends husband was sacked immediately in 2022 when he was arrested for having images of child abuse. The images weren't of any of the pupils and the parents were not told. It's yet to go to court and they still don't know. You may feel entitled to know details but it doesn't work that way.

Theimpossiblegirl · 14/04/2024 15:24

Maybe he was fed up of gossiping, entitled parents thinking they owned him, so he left.

MustBeNapTime · 14/04/2024 15:24

@Cristall
There were at least two children who were scared of him and my own DC has said he was always shouting.

and

My child has meltdowns if breakfast is not identical from one day to the next. Yes, there has been some terrible behaviour the past few weeks and I had no idea there had been a change in routine.

So your autistic child is having unexplained meltdowns and hasn't been able to articulate why but is able to articulate that his teacher is always shouting. Surely your DC would actually be better if the teacher that was always shouting is no longer there as I'm sure they weren't enjoying the shouting. That just doesn't seem to make sense and you seem to either drip feeding or adding bits to make you seem more reasonable.

MississippiAF · 14/04/2024 15:24

Are you also ND, OP?

misseckleburg · 14/04/2024 15:24

Cristall · 14/04/2024 15:08

More likely the teacher wasn't very good
Equally if the teacher was sacked because he wasn’t very good then I should know that my child hasn’t been receiving proper teaching!

What is 'proper' teaching? I'm genuinely intrigued.
If he's left because the leadership have rightly or wrongly ascertained that his teaching isn't good enough, what are you going to do with that confirmed information? Do some additional 'proper' work with them?
I'd perhaps suggest that meltdowns could be due to how utterly irrational you're behaving, as opposed to a change in routine.

Shinyandnew1 · 14/04/2024 15:25

Theimpossiblegirl · 14/04/2024 15:24

Maybe he was fed up of gossiping, entitled parents thinking they owned him, so he left.

If any of the other parents have behaved like the OP, I suspect you may well be right!

EvenStillIWantTo · 14/04/2024 15:26

Cristall · 14/04/2024 15:08

More likely the teacher wasn't very good
Equally if the teacher was sacked because he wasn’t very good then I should know that my child hasn’t been receiving proper teaching!

What, so you could whip out your Time Machine and make it not so?

You're being embarrassingly dramatic about this, just stop.

SilkFloss · 14/04/2024 15:26

Be glad your DC isn't a pupil in our school. One particular class teacher was off for three weeks this last term and they had a different teacher in there every single day - sometimes two (am/pm). The parent who complained was told quite firmly that they were lucky that qualified teachers known to the children were used at all times (lots of part-time staff who did extra hours to cover).
Staffing is DIRE in schools - you really should be concentrating your efforts on preparing your dd for the prospect of things to come re: being taught by a range of different adults (many of whom may not even be qualified).

Coshei · 14/04/2024 15:26

Did you speak to the teacher or the school when you were told that he was shouting at the children? I am struggling to comprehend why you seem to have gone from 0 to 100 just because you weren’t personally informed about a staff change.
It would be good if you could answer some important questions by pp who asked whether there are special arrangements considering your daughter’s additional needs.

EmilyTheCriminal · 14/04/2024 15:26

NillyNoMates · 14/04/2024 14:21

It’s highly likely that the teacher walked out after a disagreement with leadership.

This.

The teacher may have been on a supply contract so able to just leave whenever they like.

I used to be a supply teacher and did this twice when the conditions became intolerable for me

And it is absolutely not your business OP.

Cristall · 14/04/2024 15:29

MississippiAF · 14/04/2024 15:24

Are you also ND, OP?

Yes but I don’t see why that’s relevant.

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saveforthat · 14/04/2024 15:29

YABR (ridiculous) and it sounds very much now like you are looking for someone to blame (teacher/school) for your child's behaviour.

Cristall · 14/04/2024 15:30

SlashBeef · 14/04/2024 15:22

If he's done something terrible/criminal you won't find out about it unless it's in the press or your child is directly impacted.
My friends husband was sacked immediately in 2022 when he was arrested for having images of child abuse. The images weren't of any of the pupils and the parents were not told. It's yet to go to court and they still don't know. You may feel entitled to know details but it doesn't work that way.

That’s absolutely disgusting. So those kids have been exposed to a paedo and the parents haven’t been informed. God knows what he did to them.

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Strictly1 · 14/04/2024 15:30

You won’t be told because as lots and lots of pp have told you, it’s none of your business. The HT can discuss what’s happening moving forward but the past is gone and private.
Teachers are people with private lives.

elliejjtiny · 14/04/2024 15:33

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but if your child is suddenly having meltdowns for no apparent reason then surely you ring/email the school to ask if there have been any changes at school. Then they can tell you that "Mr X has left" or "the classroom walls have been painted bright pink" or "the seating plan has changed". Then you can deal with it based on the information that you have. I have 4 children with autism and this is what I do.

MississippiAF · 14/04/2024 15:34

Cristall · 14/04/2024 15:29

Yes but I don’t see why that’s relevant.

Because you seem to be unable to see anyone’s viewpoint.

SlashBeef · 14/04/2024 15:35

Cristall · 14/04/2024 15:30

That’s absolutely disgusting. So those kids have been exposed to a paedo and the parents haven’t been informed. God knows what he did to them.

Well yes he's disgusting but the school can't exactly put it in a newsletter can they, especially when he hasn't been convicted yet. You need to understand that schools can't just share whatever information parents demand of them.
You seem hysterical frankly.

Isometimeswonder · 14/04/2024 15:36

Would you be so outraged if this was a female teacher?

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