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Would you pursue this with the school?

271 replies

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:12

I found out during the Easter holidays that DC’s teacher left suddenly a fortnight before the holidays started. Nobody was informed until the email arrived earlier this week. The teacher had only worked there since Christmas. There’s a replacement teacher taking over after the holidays.

I’m concerned that the teacher left so suddenly. My thinking is that if nothing was amiss the school would have made him work his notice, at least until Easter. The fact he left so suddenly makes me think he’s been sacked for some unknown incident.

Would you ask the school for clarification? Do I have the right to demand it? At the very least I want to know if he quit or was sacked - and if he was sacked, why.

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Jeezitneverends · 14/04/2024 14:27

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:20

We thought it must be something really bad for him to leave so suddenly. Schools usually drag out the notice period for months. A sudden departure is very worrying because we immediately assumed there must have been some misconduct followed by sacking. I don’t think it’s reasonable to worry parents by refusing to give a reason for the sudden departure, even if it’s just “he decided to leave for personal reasons”.

it’s none of your business….if you left a job for whatever reason would you think it appropriate for the employer to tell their clients why?

Mischance · 14/04/2024 14:29

Let it go.

There are many reasons why a teacher might leave speedily - it may have been planned all along under his contract.

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:29

I also think it was unreasonable of the school not to inform parents when the teacher left, two weeks before Easter. We didn’t know our child didn’t have a teacher. We only found out a couple of days ago.

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Geebray · 14/04/2024 14:30

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:29

I also think it was unreasonable of the school not to inform parents when the teacher left, two weeks before Easter. We didn’t know our child didn’t have a teacher. We only found out a couple of days ago.

Are you paying for this school, OP?

Familiaritybreedscontemptso · 14/04/2024 14:31

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:29

I also think it was unreasonable of the school not to inform parents when the teacher left, two weeks before Easter. We didn’t know our child didn’t have a teacher. We only found out a couple of days ago.

Because then you would have been complaining that there was no teacher and the school had no plan to cover. Instead they’ve waited to be able to give you a definite plan for the coming term. They can’t win.

WaitingfortheTardis · 14/04/2024 14:32

I suspect the delay was not down to the school, but the teacher that left. Often the school have their hands tied for various reasons, for example if the teacher was signed off sick for a short period initially, or if they are let go and ask for their notice period to be waived so they can start supply/looking for new jobs asap. They may not have known initially that the teacher wasn't coming back.

Shinyandnew1 · 14/04/2024 14:32

I’m concerned that the teacher left so suddenly. My thinking is that if nothing was amiss the school would have made him work his notice, at least until Easter. The fact he left so suddenly makes me think he’s been sacked for some unknown incident.

Well, now you know he was quite likely working on a supply basis, there are no notice periods, so this huge jump to conclusions you have made is probably not the case…

Maybe he decided to leave because some of the parents in the class were such a pain in the arse.

MustBeNapTime · 14/04/2024 14:33

Why would you immediately jump to sacking for misconduct as opposed to a personal emergency issue that is NONE of your business? Goodness gracious me. You are not obliged to be informed of any teacher's absence for any reason. That is up to the school to manage.

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:34

Familiaritybreedscontemptso · 14/04/2024 14:31

Because then you would have been complaining that there was no teacher and the school had no plan to cover. Instead they’ve waited to be able to give you a definite plan for the coming term. They can’t win.

Exactly! I should have been informed that my child had no teacher, and given a timely opportunity to deal with how this sudden loss has affected her. Instead I was left in the dark about my child’s circumstances.

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Shinyandnew1 · 14/04/2024 14:35

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:34

Exactly! I should have been informed that my child had no teacher, and given a timely opportunity to deal with how this sudden loss has affected her. Instead I was left in the dark about my child’s circumstances.

Well, it clearly hasn’t affected her very much at all, if she didn’t even notice/tell you that her teacher wasn’t teaching her!

saraclara · 14/04/2024 14:35

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:16

Yes.

WTAF?

Geebray · 14/04/2024 14:35

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:34

Exactly! I should have been informed that my child had no teacher, and given a timely opportunity to deal with how this sudden loss has affected her. Instead I was left in the dark about my child’s circumstances.

given a timely opportunity to deal with how this sudden loss has affected her

You what? Has she experienced deep grief, or something?

I'm guessing she is your first/eldest child, and she is about seven years old.

hedgehoglurker · 14/04/2024 14:36

What year is your child?

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:36

MustBeNapTime · 14/04/2024 14:33

Why would you immediately jump to sacking for misconduct as opposed to a personal emergency issue that is NONE of your business? Goodness gracious me. You are not obliged to be informed of any teacher's absence for any reason. That is up to the school to manage.

Because when people leave work suddenly with no explanation it’s usually a sacking. If he was unwell and they were organising a replacement they would have said so. If he was leaving for another job they would have wished him well in the letter (as they have done previously when teachers have left). The fact they said nothing about why he vanished is very suspicious.

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Bbq1 · 14/04/2024 14:36

Deepdarkforest · 14/04/2024 14:17

It’s quite unlikely they’ve been dismissed. It isn’t impossible but unlikely. More likely resigned albeit under a cloud.

People think that teaching is a super secure job and it really isn’t. It’s only as secure as your last observation.

Absolutely agree about the observation. As a Ta I've seem staff leave over poor observation results.

ARichtGoodDram · 14/04/2024 14:36

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:29

I also think it was unreasonable of the school not to inform parents when the teacher left, two weeks before Easter. We didn’t know our child didn’t have a teacher. We only found out a couple of days ago.

Depending on circumstances the school may not have known the exact outcome themselves until now.

It’s obviously not had a detrimental impact on your child or you’d have known.

Justbrowsing2024 · 14/04/2024 14:37

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:27

It is my business to know whether my child has been exposed to misconduct resulting in the teacher being sacked.

Why are you so sure there has been misconduct? Has your child told you this? Is there information you are not telling us? I'm struggling to see why you think you are so important the rules of privacy dont apply to you.

WaitingfortheTardis · 14/04/2024 14:37

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:34

Exactly! I should have been informed that my child had no teacher, and given a timely opportunity to deal with how this sudden loss has affected her. Instead I was left in the dark about my child’s circumstances.

As I've just explained, it may well have been temporary initially, so they couldn't have told you she didn't have a teacher if in fact she still did and they were just off.

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:37

Geebray · 14/04/2024 14:35

given a timely opportunity to deal with how this sudden loss has affected her

You what? Has she experienced deep grief, or something?

I'm guessing she is your first/eldest child, and she is about seven years old.

My child has autism and struggles with changes in routine. This is a major change in routine that I should have been informed about.

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ARichtGoodDram · 14/04/2024 14:37

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:36

Because when people leave work suddenly with no explanation it’s usually a sacking. If he was unwell and they were organising a replacement they would have said so. If he was leaving for another job they would have wished him well in the letter (as they have done previously when teachers have left). The fact they said nothing about why he vanished is very suspicious.

If he was unwell and didn’t want it announced they absolutely wouldn’t have said so.

If this was anything to do with your child you’d know.

You’re not entitled to know this man’s personal information simply because he taught your child briefly.

Bbq1 · 14/04/2024 14:39

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:37

My child has autism and struggles with changes in routine. This is a major change in routine that I should have been informed about.

Massive drip feed there, Op? Is she attending a Special Ed setting?

ShalommJackie · 14/04/2024 14:40

You won't be told and your child who has autism has no right to know whether the teacher has had a traumatic bereavement etc

I really hope if you do go in demanding answers they tell you to swivel.

If your kid is so scared of change why don't you homeschool? Then you'll know exactly what's going on and you can micromanage to your hearts content.. or is that too difficult?

DyslexicPoster · 14/04/2024 14:40

One of the HT at my sons school was gone within a week. All I know was that it was serious. I have also known teachers sacked on the spot. It does happen.

WaitingfortheTardis · 14/04/2024 14:41

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:37

My child has autism and struggles with changes in routine. This is a major change in routine that I should have been informed about.

This makes no difference to his right to privacy. Your child will be fine, thus probably won't be the last time in their school years that a teacher/ta etc will leave unexpectedly. This is done and gone, what you need to now is to help and encourage your child to build a positive relationship with their new teacher, so they can continue their learning.

saraclara · 14/04/2024 14:41

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:37

My child has autism and struggles with changes in routine. This is a major change in routine that I should have been informed about.

Well clearly she managed to cope really well, since you had no idea that it had happened for two weeks. So I'd be cheering that progress, rather than hoping that the teacher has had some dreadful family issue.

I'm still struggling to get my head around you saying that you say you'd actually feel better if the latter is the case. Teachers are simply a commodity to you then, not actual human beings.