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Would you pursue this with the school?

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Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:12

I found out during the Easter holidays that DC’s teacher left suddenly a fortnight before the holidays started. Nobody was informed until the email arrived earlier this week. The teacher had only worked there since Christmas. There’s a replacement teacher taking over after the holidays.

I’m concerned that the teacher left so suddenly. My thinking is that if nothing was amiss the school would have made him work his notice, at least until Easter. The fact he left so suddenly makes me think he’s been sacked for some unknown incident.

Would you ask the school for clarification? Do I have the right to demand it? At the very least I want to know if he quit or was sacked - and if he was sacked, why.

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cantkeepawayforever · 14/04/2024 18:46

...and with the attitudes and behaviours of entitled, batshit parents.
That too. As well as the behaviours that they encourage in their offspring!

CattyCow · 14/04/2024 18:48

I'm autistic too OP.

And I still don't think the world revolves around you and your child. There are plenty of valid reasons the teacher may have left that are none of your business.

cantkeepawayforever · 14/04/2024 18:53

I know that you said earlier that you wanted to know whether the performance of the teacher had been a factor in their departure so you could remedy any gaps in your child’s education.

There is a reasonable, neutral way of asking about this, which , importantly, focuses on your child.

When your child has re-settled in school, and the new teacher has got to know them, you can quite reasonably ask the new teacher whether they have noticed any specific learning gaps that your child has from this year’s curriculum (or whichever curriculum she normally works on) and what you can do to support her in filling them. It may be that eg the new teacher finds they have a weakness in a specific area of Maths that might not be expected at that point in the year, and you can remedy that through extra work at home.

JojoSeawitchHasBeenABadBadGirl · 14/04/2024 18:54
  1. They agreed to do supply long term then thought "Fuck it". They only need to tell agency and they can walk. It's one of the only benefits of doing supply.
  2. They decided to leave teaching altogether and as soon as possible, so they weren't bothered about potential blacklisting.
  3. The school decided they weren't a good fit or worth the money so it was mutually agreed they'd leave.

It's not rocket science and it happens loads, especially in a school with poor behaviour, poor senior management or recruitment gaps - especially if the school is struggling with retention.

Shinyandnew1 · 14/04/2024 19:00

Cristall · 14/04/2024 15:08

More likely the teacher wasn't very good
Equally if the teacher was sacked because he wasn’t very good then I should know that my child hasn’t been receiving proper teaching!

So, initially you just wanted to be told if your child’s class teacher was sacked for misconduct, but now you also want to be told if they weren’t very good.

If your child’s next teacher has a poor lesson observation and is set some targets as a result, do you think you should be told that as well?!

What if next year, there’s a choice of two teachers for your child’s year group, are you expecting to see each teacher’s Performance Management reviews so you can decide which is stronger?!

TheFormidableMrsC · 14/04/2024 19:04

I couldn’t give a shit about them or their personal business. I just want to know that the reason for departure is not bad behaviour in the presence of my child

This is vile, seriously @Cristall

Have you asked your child if the teacher behaved badly in front of them? Has your child complained about the teacher?

I think you should go into the office when term starts and tell them that you demand to know why Mr X has left. They will, like everybody else, tell you it's none of your sodding business.

My autistic child had a much loved teacher leave mid term, very suddenly. Not a single person reacted like you. My child settled well with the new teacher. I don't honestly know why you think you should be party to this information or why you think the school is "covering up". Do other parents back you up with this?

Moglet4 · 14/04/2024 19:10

Cristall · 14/04/2024 14:20

We thought it must be something really bad for him to leave so suddenly. Schools usually drag out the notice period for months. A sudden departure is very worrying because we immediately assumed there must have been some misconduct followed by sacking. I don’t think it’s reasonable to worry parents by refusing to give a reason for the sudden departure, even if it’s just “he decided to leave for personal reasons”.

If there was a reason to worry they would have told you. Otherwise, it’s none of your business

Morph22010 · 14/04/2024 19:13

5yearsago3000milesaway · 14/04/2024 17:50

Totally agree with PPs that is more likely he left at his own instigation rather than was sacked. Quite possibly stress / didn't get on with the leadership team. Or the class itself is a nightmare, which does happen, and a lack of support can make life hell in this situation. I have several friends who left part way through a school year for these reasons as they didn't feel they could continue for their own mental health. The fact the previous teacher also left part way through the year adds adds to my suspicions about this.

I was thinking that, the fact that the op poster said their child was autistic but doesn’t appear to have any sort of 1-1 or else the 1-1 would have mentioned teacher leaving at drop off. Maybe there’s a high level of Sen in the class with no additional support, very stressful for the teacher, I’m not child blaming I have an autistic child myself but he’s bloody hard work, I couldn’t cope:with him plus 29 others some of which may also have additional needs, id leave at short notice in that circumstance

Leonab · 14/04/2024 19:18

I remember Mr Wright at my school left specifically because our science class caused him to have a mental breakdown. Teachers leaving a school isn't always a suspicious thing.

And for all the single ladies reading this; you can blame my science class for your difficulties finding Mr Wright. 😂

Moglet4 · 14/04/2024 19:43

Cristall · 14/04/2024 15:08

More likely the teacher wasn't very good
Equally if the teacher was sacked because he wasn’t very good then I should know that my child hasn’t been receiving proper teaching!

That’s clearly not the case because it’s a long process to remove a teacher for poor teaching. There are a myriad of reasons why he might have left suddenly, almost all of them not nefarious and absolutely none of them any of your business. If he was supply (the most likely explanation) he would also be unlikely to have been ‘branded’ as such as most schools don’t distinguish between permanent and supply for parents.

Moglet4 · 14/04/2024 19:45

noblegiraffe · 14/04/2024 17:36

Have you now realised that the teacher committing a violent sex crime against your child and the school covering it up is actually not the most likely explanation for the teacher's departure from the school?

🤣quite

itsgettingweird · 14/04/2024 19:56

Cristall · 14/04/2024 17:35

This phrase you use - "covering up" - who is covering anything up?
Non disclosure is the same as covering up. If nothing bad has happened then there shouldn’t be anything to hide. The only reason for not being transparent is if they’re trying to hide something.

Or there's nothing to hide and therefore you are jumping to wild conclusions.

You'd know anything you needed to know.

Are you this hard work in RL?

Bluepetergarden · 14/04/2024 20:05

The teacher was clearly on the run from a Mexican cartel and all the staff were in on it too

Starlightstarbright3 · 14/04/2024 20:12

Cristall · 14/04/2024 16:36

They had a TA to supervise. So my child has lost two weeks of schooling and I wasn’t informed.

Your child hasn’t lost 2 weeks of schooling . Lesson plan will be set up by a teacher .

i feel you have come to a dramatic conclusion that includes your child .

we also had through school 2 teachers who took time to care for their mothers . One who left . One took a year off .

it could be ill health , family need , a million other things that go on in teachers lives outside the classroom

ARichtGoodDram · 14/04/2024 20:19

I’m so glad none of the parents at the schools I worked in were this entitled when I had to leave mid year unexpectedly

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 14/04/2024 20:46

Non disclosure is the same as covering up. If nothing bad has happened then there shouldn’t be anything to hide. The only reason for not being transparent is if they’re trying to hide something.

Non disclosure of what? A teacher has left. Why the teacher has left is the teacher's own business. If the school had something they felt that parents needed to be told about this, they'd have told you, but they clearly don't.

It's not about hiding anything. It's that informing parents about staffing decisions is not something schools necessarily feel the need to do. And sometimes it would actually be inappropriate for them to do so. Staffing decisions are the school's business, not yours.You don't get a say in this, and you don't get to demand to be told things.

NewName24 · 14/04/2024 20:48

266 replies at the moment.
It is incredibly unusual on MN to have every poster agreeing with each other - that you are absolutely wrong and entitled.
Does that not telly you anything OP ?

Crazycrazylady · 14/04/2024 21:34

Honestly I think it's pretty clear that the op has much more going on here than just a random teacher leaving without her being made aware in advance.
. Her focus on this is clearly unnatural and irrational.
She'll ask the head, the head will refuse to tell her and that will be the end of it . The downside for the op is that when you own your self as the nut job parent who wants address to her child's teachers hr info, you're way less likely to be taken seriously if she ever has an actual issue.

GoldenTrout · 17/04/2024 21:16

Cristall · 14/04/2024 16:26

I’m not convinced I would have been informed. The school would try to cover it up. They already tried to cover up that the teacher left - they didn’t inform me for two whole weeks.

There is no way a school would try to cover up that a teacher had left. Due to the fact that at least 30 kids would notice.

GoldenTrout · 17/04/2024 21:18

Cristall · 14/04/2024 17:35

This phrase you use - "covering up" - who is covering anything up?
Non disclosure is the same as covering up. If nothing bad has happened then there shouldn’t be anything to hide. The only reason for not being transparent is if they’re trying to hide something.

No, there's lots of other reasons. For instance, that he's left due to illness and doesn't want the world to know.

Isometimeswonder · 19/04/2024 22:24

@Cristall your responses are fucking tedious now. You asked a question, people have answered, you don't agree, so just do what you like.

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