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Shocked by hatred of kids & parents on TES website

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kris007 · 20/02/2008 18:52

I've spent a bit of time reading the TES website which contains threads and postings from teachers and I am stunned by the level of hatred and abuse directed towards students and their parents. I am horrified to think that some of these creatures may actually be teaching my kids!
It appears that the "state of war" we read about it British classrooms is by no means one way traffic - the teachers
seem to relish getting in on the all the drama.

OP posts:
pointydog · 21/02/2008 17:43

The new college will think your daughter is wonderful, kris. Or... maybe... they would be more likely to be on the school's side...? Hmmmm, a tricky one

pagwatch · 21/02/2008 17:45

ahh - you say mindless humiliating rules, I say school rules and discipline - potato potato.

My sons school expect him to do as he is told, as I do. The children respect the teachers and the teachers, as a consequence, respect the children.

theUrbanDryad · 21/02/2008 17:45

Kris - if a 16/17 year old wants to go to college rather than 6th form there's not a lot their parents can do to stop them! just as there wasn't much to stop me from doing GCSE Drama rather than French!

I still think your daughter is an adolescent idiot, and will feel throughly ashamed of herself in years to come!

mrz · 21/02/2008 17:45

pointydog have you looked on any of the other TES forums? The one you are referring to is just one of over 50 available to teachers, parents, governors and those who claim to be either teachers or parents. The TES forum doesn't do a huge disservice to teachers only some of the people who post there.

MeMySonAndI · 21/02/2008 17:48

"By the way, my dd is in the process of exacting an exquisite revenge on the anal teachers at her school."

Well, good you are celebrating it Kris!, with this I can only believe that your child is one of those ver nasty subjects who are constantly assured by their parents that only their ways are correct.

NKF · 21/02/2008 17:48

What sort of rules does your daughter object to, kris007.

Personally, I think 6th forms are often very enjoyable for students. And of course when you're 16 and totally full of yourself, you want to leave school.

Still curious about the rules though. What was she made to do?

pointydog · 21/02/2008 17:48

Fair point, mrz, I'm talking about Opinion. The more job-related ones are good.

But Opinion is just so poor, that's enough for me and it will be for most of the general public. I just groan when I think of TES promoting that guff.

mrz · 21/02/2008 17:49

I'm not totally convinced kris is mature enough to have a DD.

pagwatch · 21/02/2008 17:50

nkf
she was apparently required to remove her coat at the start of lesson .
...oh the humanity !

pagwatch · 21/02/2008 17:52

It did particularly make me laugh as i recall visiting a MLD school for my DS2. One of the children was having trouble with the whole' you take off your coat when you come into the classroom in order to prepare to work. The very patient teacher helped him get the idea and comply and the class had a short ( and quite entertaining discussion about manners).
Really sadistic though apparently

pagwatch · 21/02/2008 17:53

(totally random punctuation there - sorry !)

mrz · 21/02/2008 17:54

But to be fair if you have a coat which presumably has a desirable label you want everyone to notice you would be slightly miffed at being asked to remove it in a heated classroom. It must be worth a flounce or two at least.

pagwatch · 21/02/2008 17:59

..and the freedom to flounce is a fundamental human right.
( I spent the afternoon with six year old girls so i know I am right)

mrz · 21/02/2008 18:01

Kris is delighted at the number of posts she has inspired here and on TES, but can I just ask if there has been a single response in full agreement?

NKF · 21/02/2008 18:01

Does Kris post on TES? But isn't a teacher? Why?

pointydog · 21/02/2008 18:03

Because it's a great way of trying to wind teachers up. Is that not her raison d'etre?

mrz · 21/02/2008 18:06

NKF not all posters on TES are teachers, even some of those who claim to be.

TheFallenMadonna · 21/02/2008 18:10

I expect everyone to remove their coat a soon as they come into the classroom. It's a pretty standard expectation TBH. It helps people to settle to work IME. I'm not sure why it should be a problem

janeite · 21/02/2008 18:11

Kris - you are clearly one of those parents that teachers love so much. Carry on; your daughter is obviously learning so much from your superb example of how to be a decent human being.

Hollow laughter.

hercules1 · 21/02/2008 18:11

The amusing thing is that if op's daughter is real and does do this the teacher will have forgotten about the whole incident anyway whilst op and her daughter will have been festering about it for months!

Blandmum · 21/02/2008 18:12

We have a 'no coats' rule in the lab for H and S.

Someone brought their V expensice designer coat in, and it got splashed with acid (while not on the student, thankfully)

Parent demanded we pay to replace the coat.

Tough, should have follwed our rules, said the school.

NKF · 21/02/2008 18:13

And if she goes and tells the teachers what she thinks of them, they might (at most) share brief notes in the staffroom about that awful lippy kid and how glad they are she's going to 6th form college. And then they'll get on with their day.

hercules1 · 21/02/2008 18:14

Goodness, I can just imagine her first job interview or interview for a University. When asked to describe something she's proud of having achieved....

TheFallenMadonna · 21/02/2008 18:15

And I am also very strict about toilet breaks as well, epecially for 16 year olds.

Your dd would hate me Kris

hecate · 21/02/2008 18:26

Teachers and parents should be a team, working together for the benefit of the children. We should all be aiming for that.

My kids have autism. They are fabulous but challenging at times. Their teachers are always good to them, supportive of them and us - and ...love them. Yes. I mean it. Their LSA's especially, adore them - I call them school mums and I am home mum

But I bet sometimes they rant and swear about them. They may even do it on that site, for all I know. I wouldn't blame them if they did. I come on here and go AAARRRGGGGHHHHHHHH and ask if it is considered bad parenting to send the kids to bed with junior valium and a beaker of gin . Doesn't mean I don't love my kids. Doesn't mean I'm not the best mum I know how to be. Is it so unreasonable for a teacher to have those moments too? Of course not.

Now, not every teacher is great - like every walk of life you get your grade A twats, and I've come across those too! (More heads are twats than teachers, for some reason. Don't know why.) But a good teacher is worth their weight in gold. (worth MY weight in gold!

And I don't blame them for getting pissed off with some parents with their "My jonny wouldn't doooooo that, you all hate him.." attitude. but at the same time they expect it to be teachers that raise their kids because what's the first thing they say when their kid goes totally off the rails? The school the teachers should have done something. Helloooooooo... parental responsibility anyone???

And some kids are brats. It's a fact! And maybe if the parents were told so, they might do something about it.

But many teachers (and heads) seem to see the parents as the enemy. That's wrong too.

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