Why is 6th form thought of more highly than attending FE college ?

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I can never understand why if you say that you attend 6th form at school you are thought of more so than if you attended FE college.

I would feel that if anything it would be more impressive to attend FE college as you made the decision to go somewhere else and try something different /

I would never disrespect any career I thought was worthwhile, hard work for fairly minimal pay or a regularly looked down upon when they shouldn't be.

I would never disrespect any career at all. Because I was brought up to have decent manners. As were my fully 6th form educated children.

Well let`s all agree not to disrespect any careers.

I would never disrespect any career I thought was worthwhile, hard work for fairly minimal pay or a regularly looked down upon when they shouldn't be.

Interesting...... lots to unpick here.

Firstly, who are you to decide what is worthwhile? You've demonstrated repeatedly that you don't have even a basic knowledge of education and careers.

Secondly, there is a significant amount evidence and peer reviewed research that demonstrates that good career guidance is beneficial to individuals, society and the economy. It can also improve educational outcomes and engagement.

What a pompous point of view I have to say.

Although I have to say if you ever decide to quit careers advice.

You would be amazing in working in marketing, sales or advertising.

As your description of careers guidance is most compelling and makes it sound like the greatest invention since sliced bread or the internet.

I have a vocational career that is respected and well-paid. Does that meet with your approval?

Don’t try and be black and white and rigid about different careers.

What is your career ?

What a pompous point of view I have to say

What have I said that is pompous?

Although I have to say if you ever decide to quit careers advice.

You would be amazing in working in marketing, sales or advertising.

As your description of careers guidance is most compelling and makes it sound like the greatest invention since sliced bread or the internet.

What would you prefer me to say? That evidence exists 🤷🏼‍♀️
Why is it wrong to be passionate and positive about your career? Ironically that's what good career guidance can do, it can actually help you find a career you love!

You come across as having a very holier than thou attitude towards career advice and appear to think it can fix all the worlds ill`s.

You don`t appear to think that work experience is important also.

What would you say are your biggest success stories in careers advice ?

@DollyTrolly I admire your continued courtesy and restraint in the face of so much ignorance and refusal to learn.

That’s unfair. I don’t think pp has been like that at all.

Doctor (hospital consultant). Vocational but need university degree.

So are you in strike at the moment ?

You come across as having a very holier than thou attitude towards career advice and appear to think it can fix all the worlds ill`s.
Nope, I've never said that.
It is important though.

You don`t appear to think that work experience is important also.

Again, I've never said this. In fact I've actually said the opposite.
Work experience and encounters with employers are very important. There should be more support for schools and colleges to help them facilitate more of this. It's one of the most challenging aspects of careers education.

What would you say are your biggest success stories in careers advice ?

I suspect that our definitions of success differ considerably. I've shared quite a lots of information which you just ignore.

I've made some pretty big contributions to the sector as a whole which I'm very proud of. My current role means I have the privilege of influencing things on a large scale across England.

Thank you. I don't know why I keep coming back.....I just get a load of abuse 🤷🏼‍♀️

No. Not sure that’s relevant though.

Well you did walk into that response when you told everyone your profession.

It does make sense now though I can`t imagine to many children of the parents of doctors/consultants turn their hands to vocational professions.

I don’t understand what you mean by ‘walk into that response’. I don’t see what striking has to do with the topic at all.

I did a vocational degree which can’t be done at a sixth form college. Just showing you how things are not as black and white as you think.

Well unless I'm very much mistaken strikes within the NHS have been in the news recently.

I cant` imagine with the career you have your kids would decide to train to become a plumber or electrician for example.

True. People do often follow the paths of their parents. But I think it changes little by little. Amongst my colleagues, very few of our kids are choosing Medicine, and there is a realisation that there are many other interesting careers. Eg In music and the arts. And it’s no longer an appealing career for many.

However not so many are choosing the careers you have mentioned eg plumbing. I can think of one kid studying hairdressing. But I think a shift will slowly happen.

If you knew anything about anything, you would know that the consultants' strike finished on Saturday - it's been in the news recently.

You should only become a plumber or an electrician if you want to become a plumber or an electrician. Why are you so opposed to young people choosing to follow their passions and interests?

Music and arts ? not really surprised by that.

Hairdressing ? that has surprised me to be honest.

Can`t anyone take a joke in here ?

I`m just interested why people chose academic subjects and didn't consider a vocational alternative.

Or why parents didn't suggest it as an alternative.

You've been told hundreds of times on this thread.

People choose subjects that align with their interests and their aptitudes. There isn't anything more than that.

Parents (good ones, at least) support their children to follow their interests and their aptitudes, and do not try to force them in a direction that they do not want. There isn't anything more than that.

Maybe write it down on a large piece of paper and read it every morning and every night?

@pointythings Parents should challenge there children's views and show them alternatives also.

@thegreenline why? Why shouldn't a 16 year old make their own choices? There's nothing like making choices and dealing with the consequences to make someone grow up. Helicopter parenting is bad.