Epsom College tragedy

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I was horrified to read the story about the headteacher and family dying this morning, this poor family and I can't stop thinking about how the children at school must feel learning about this tragedy. I am sure the staff there are being brilliant at supporting them. I remember hearing that my old headteacher had died after I left school and even then being really shocked and upset.

Yes it's horrible, devastating news and to be honest, we don't know if it is a "tragedy" or something else at the moment. I imagine that is what the police and forensics will determine, so probably best not to speculate.

I'd argue that however it happened, it's a tragedy. A family of 3 people, including a young child, have died. What is not tragic about that?

I read this last night - awful thing to happen. I'm sure the pupils at the school are getting support, but it will certainly take some getting over.

It is tragic regardless but they may have had CO2 poisoning or something like that so it is better not to speculate. Obviously this is trending because so many people are clicking on it but nothing has been said, as yet, about violence.

I think that poster meant it may only have been tragic for two members of the family I.e if it was a double murder and then a suicide

You mean CO poisoning. Whatever the cause, it is tragic for a family to die.

@JingsJinty Whatever causes the death of a young family is a tragedy, because to end up in this terrible situation where it sounds like one of the adults caused their deaths, there must have been so much pain for months before. I just feel so sad for them, for the school and their wider family.

'So much pain' isn't an excuse for murder. IF that is what happened.

It's a terrible story, so tragic whatever may have happened.

@MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake I am not excusing anything, but I am saying that if this was that sort of tragedy it wouldn't be isolated there would have been so much pain leading up to it for all of this young family.
Gosh I hadn't thought of CO2, how awful. Surely schools are fitted with monitors.

I immediately thought - murder / suicide. Hadn't even considered C02 poisoning or similar.

CO= carbon monoxide
CO² = carbon dioxide

If you have a carbon monoxide alarm now a is a good time to test it and make sure it's working. If you don't please consider getting one, it's a silent killer.

I think we all know the likely scenario but we are not allowed to say it here

No I would disagree that the deliberate death of innocents,at the hands of another is not a tragic , but a senseless act of violence. I would also say that if carbon monoxide poisoning is to blame ( much speculation here which I did not want to get involved in) then that is also a senseless preventable loss from negligence from the Epsom estate ,that surely cannot be short of funds. Horrific .

Stories about accidental carbon monoxide poisonings are reported as "suspected accidental carbon monoxide poisonings". Highly unlikely to be the cause given the language used to describe this tragic loss of life. We all wait with a mounting sense of dread for the further details to emerge.

If you read the press release from the governors on many news websites then it's highly unlikely that it was an accident.

They were discovered in the middle of the night. Not a time you would check on a family usually so very unlikely an accident.

Absolutely horrific and can't imagine what the families are going through at the moment. I hope they are given privacy as understandably there will be press interest as there always is in such cases.

Really? This is extremely sad. It makes you wonder Just why?

Unfortunately, family annihilator incidents rise in times of economic hardship and it does state in the media that they were stressed out by all the recent adjustments which they had to make as a family. I remember the case in Oswestry a few years ago where there was also one child involved.

I don't think it's an accident according to This :(

@Pearlygates oh God that is awful. Do you think they keep guns at the school?

Her Podcast is shown here: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11717303/Last-podcast-Epsom-College-head-dead-family-reveals-faced-big-changes.html

Indeed

And that situation seems to be obscured by the way the event has been reported - with the woman’s name/public position. It would be a criminological anomaly were she to be found to be the instigator, if this is an alleged crime not a terrible accident.

Yes, and also at my DC’s school. Shooting Clubs are quite common in public schools but the rifles are very securely locked away.