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Help! Boarding school drama!

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drinkteaandrelax · 20/02/2021 00:13

My DD is 15, looking for a full boarding school to spend her sixth form at. She is very academic and thrives in a hard-working environment. A school that is pushy, but also has many societies, co-curriculars and fun weekend activities is a must. We are definitely looking for bursaries and scholarships.

I have been looking with my DD for a week or so, and the four we have cut our list down to is:

Christ's Hospital
Marlborough College
Rugby School
St Edwards Oxford

Which one do you think she would suit best? And what knowledge have you gathered about them all?
The other full boarding schools haven't really appealed to us, but we are still open to ideas. Any information about boarding life at these schools would be much appreciated.

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LIZS · 24/02/2021 19:20

@OnlyTeaForMe

What about Caterham in Surrey? Most of the 6th form board iirc. Better academics than many of the schools you've listed.
Less than 25% of sixth form board at Caterham, many of those are weekly.
drinkteaandrelax · 24/02/2021 19:25

@leftandaright My daughter has been on youtube, and doing her research- as best as she can online. She came across a youtuber (whom I will leave anonymous) who does 'boarding school vlogs'.
She eventually found out the school she went to was in fact Oundle, and I can't say I was impressed. My DD showed me the videos and said that it looked rather boring in terms of co-curriculars. I don't like the attitude the girls had and I do not feel my DD would enjoy it there.

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RandomMess · 24/02/2021 21:30

There is Gordon's in Surrey which is state boarding but mainly weekly boarders.

LRGS has only just started admitting girls so I would be looking closely at numbers of girls attending and boarding.

Dancingdreamer · 24/02/2021 22:42

Marlborough is full boarding and I can vouch for the level of support they give to a very academic child having had a DD there who was aiming for Oxbridge. However, not all DC there are worried about their academics for many reasons. Some are more artistic and are looking at music or art colleges rather than Oxbridge. Some because they don’t need to have a high flying career when they have a trust fund. This however, gives the school a fresh and vibrant mix of children. Not everyone is stuck inside poring over a book. And Marlborough is clear that it wants DC who will take advantage of all they offer and who want a well rounded education including lots of extra curricular opportunities.

It won’t suit all DC but for those it does the. They will have a brilliant time.

Zodlebud · 25/02/2021 09:39

@drinkteaandrelax I really wouldn’t make a decision about a school based on a Youtuber!! I know the one you are on about - she is very wealthy, lives in a lovely country pile, always buying / getting new things.

Don’t forget that on YouTube everything is about content. Things will be made up or exaggerated to get more views and subscribers. You also have to be a certain type of person to want to be a Youtuber anyway.

There are hundreds of young people at Oundle who are not on YouTube. I would spend time getting to know the school before deciding outright on the basis of a slightly silly girl on social media.

Oresome · 25/02/2021 10:15

Have you thought about single sex boarding but with very close links to an equivalent boy’s school? I’d recommend looking at Sherborne Girls if so. Single sex and full boarding but with Sherborne School (boys only) in the same town.

Lots of co-curricular activities, especially in the 6th Form, with some subjects shared between the two schools. So kind of the best of both worlds.

They’ve got a relatively new head too who seems to be pushing things forward. Well worth a look I think.

toobusytothink · 25/02/2021 10:18

St Ed’s def not academic. None of them are the top academically (not to say they aren’t fab schools but it’s just that what you asked for)

OnceUponAThread · 25/02/2021 10:28

@reefedsail

None of those are really at the cutting edge of academia.

If you want 'pushy' (!) maybe look at Wycombe Abbey. Westminster?

She could be in the first wave of girls at Winchester- sounds like that might suit.

I agree with this. Try Wycombe Abby for extremely pushy or academic. The four you've picked don't really fit into that category for me.
Chewingle · 25/02/2021 13:16

I’m surprised eastBourne not mentioned at all.

Is this for any reason?

LIZS · 25/02/2021 13:53

Eastbourne not renowned for its academic rigour. Op has your dd considered a preference for IB or A levels? Sevenoaks might be worth considering although £££.

nolanscrack · 25/02/2021 13:53

Why would they,it doesnt fit anything the op is looking for.

Chewingle · 25/02/2021 14:00

I was being cheeky and trying to get feedback on it!

withmycoffee · 26/02/2021 12:12

[quote drinkteaandrelax]@ShakeaHettyFeather My DD does not want to attend a full girls school. She wants to be surrounded like she usually is at her secondary school. Also Brighton College has rumours of being a hothouse as they survive off their students' results- plus we've been to visit it and it wasn't for us.[/quote]
Isn't a hothouse what you are looking for? Your opening post says you want somewhere very academic and pushy. That IS a hothouse. I don't think you know what you want OP

PresentingPercy · 26/02/2021 12:28

I think there is a lot of misuderstanding about schools on this thread. Bight DC do not need a Wycome Abbey or Winchester to get greagt results and thrive. the results at St Edwards are very similar to my old Grammar. In fact lots of the state grammars near me have similar results. Everyone I know thinks the grammars are academic. So the schools chosen are just fine for any bright child. you do not have to have 100% bright dC around you to do well. In fact, sometimes being in a slightly sdmaller pool of verfy bright DC does wonders for self-esteem.

I absolutely would not encourage anyone to get info from U-tube. Extra curricular changes and DC go to schools with all sorts of different attitudes to work and play. All these schools offer a myriad of opportunities. It is up to Dc to take them. If DC do not want to do anything, then that is up to them. Howeverf, no school like rugby is not academic. I would open up the search wider and it is very narrow to take out girls' schools (if you need money from them). However older schools (boys schools) with money they have garnered over centuries often have bigger bursary pots.!

Beachcomber74 · 27/02/2021 11:44

Endorsement for St Edward’s here. The current co-hort of Upper Sixth have 8 Oxbridge offers & wide range of RG offers.
You only need to look at their website & you’ll see the innovation & spark of the pupils brimming with enterprises & see there is so much going on. Weekly boarders yes but full boarders plentiful too. Location wise it’s perfect as Sixth formers can dip into cultural offerings in Oxford. DS thriving there & really inspired by dynamism of his peers-concert musicians, county cricket players, actors & sailors or sit well within strong academics. Bursaries available & it sounds as if your daughter might be up for a chance of an academic one but don’t have the impression that’ll be easy to come by so make sure you manage expectations accordingly. Good Luck.

Londonmummy66 · 27/02/2021 19:40

CH run extra curricular for Oxbridge which is so popular that there are 2 separate groups of Yr12s doing it - tbh their leavers destinations punch above their results.

Globaliser · 28/02/2021 12:56

Wycombe Abbey, Cheltenham Ladies and St Mary's Ascot are the academic girls' boarding schools. St Edward's is a great school, but it's firmly a 55% CE school. The most academic boys' schools will be 70% CE.

easternenergizer · 05/05/2021 14:57

Just wanted to share my experience with Oundle. Certainly not negating anyone's bad experience with the school's pastoral care and I hope those children are happy now.

I left Oundle 6 years ago and have met people since from all the schools listed above. Oundle wasn't for me a pastoral inferno and neither are the others, particularly Rugby gets good press, the pastoral utopias. I know some at all who didn't love their time, don't think Oundle is, in general, any worse. But clearly some have had bad experiences so hoping they found the right school. Oundle, Uppingham and Rugby have same set-up, all eat in houses which I really loved. All have day students but are run as boarding schools so day students have to fit into this rhythm. Day students at Oundle in separate house didn't affect their integration at all, we all hung out together on weekends and after school too etc. All are in a town: Oundle is beautiful. Rugby isn't very nice but not sure it affects the students too much. Uppingham quite a nice town too. All can interact with the town which helps to not be bored.

Oundle is an excellent school, and would be my preference over Rugby or Uppingham. Out of these it has the strongest work ethic, and students' approach to anything is always serious and they try their best. It is the school's USP and parents choose it for this reason. They also do give you responsibility more than the others e.g you take charge of your house plays with no adult involvement. Students take this on with them when they leave too. Oundelian's work ethic comes from the students. It has the widest pupil profile/interests of the three in my opinion and the large size is a benefit. You don't have a social group that dominates a year as much, everyone finds someone who is similar to them and probably shares their interest (even the slightly whacky ones).

Grades wise, you can't compare them. They all do different exam boards. For an academic child Oundle has best provision. Uppingham and rugby don't do nearly as many pre-u (MUCH HARDER AND TAXING a level equivalent) as Oundle and also unless there is same subject percentage spread then it isn't a fair comparison. I know Uppingham you can do business studies at Oundle you cant. Couple this with more Oundle students going to america and sitting SATs (so, only guessing, not needing to take a levels seriously but this is just a guess), then it is hard to make comparisons. The PRE-U ends next year and Oundle and other more academic places like winchester back in the a level mix it will change the a* spread among schools. Oundle have dipped slightly recently which I have found strange. Maybe good to put the admissions department on the spot and ask them why haha.

Other ones mentioned:

Marlborough - fantastic school, really like the people from it and most similar to Oundle I feel, tiny bit less academic. Bit flashy/snobby apparently but most mellow when leave.

Wellington great too (lots go home at weekends) good grades but not sure its from a natural work ethic from the kids.

CH great school and super grounded and always liked people from there, can get on with anyone. Also they seem to pursue own interests. Not as academic as others above but its good

Teddies - Pretty average (weekly boarding there now but if lots stay at school shouldn't affect full boarders too much). Im sure kids thrive there but, ime, people seem a bit boring and samey.

Also, just a heads up, if a school is amazing, doesn't mean your child will thrive and even do better than in one that's less academic etc. Successful people come from lots of different types of school. Most important should be a child's happiness in a place and they normally know within an hour or two when they walk around if they like the vibe and the people. Hope the above helpful - GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR DECISION!

Sunbelievable · 06/05/2021 08:13

I think everyone on here, including the OP, is missing the point that is scholarships and bursaries are a "must", you give up the privilege of being able to be this picky.

Scholarships are increasingly a token. And I think all the schools on here are using this company to decide bursaries:

www.schoolbursaryguide.com

It is an incredibly intrusive process to apply for a bursary and you should also be making huge financial sacrifices as a family too.

So I think the semantics of picking apart Oundle and Rugby - two similar schools - are a bit pointless.

By all means, have a favourite, but getting any sort of financial help beyond a small scholarship (which in all these schools is intensely competitive!) is a privilege and should never be treated as a foregone conclusion. So many families apply for what are limited funds.

The only way you can be this choosy is to pay full fees.

Bluntness100 · 06/05/2021 08:18

Op, if you need a scholarship or bursary then I think you need to apply to them all and see if you’re successful at any then decide. These are not easy to obtain and highly competitive.

oystercatcher44 · 06/05/2021 12:35

Does that chart include pre U qualifications?

Sunbelievable · 07/05/2021 12:57

@oystercatcher44

Does that chart include pre U qualifications?
No, it doesn't. But it's a shit table for other reasons too ;-)
MrPickles73 · 07/05/2021 13:09

SchrodingersUnicorn you can generate school performance charts here:
www.compare-school-performance.service.gov.uk/

Woed · 08/06/2021 10:49

I got same drama with my DC , cannot decided on secondary school, we leaving his previous school because of bullying , I’m looking for somewhere DC could fit in and feel like it second home; on our list Oakham,Uppingham , Kingham .DC not very sporty , academically ok in the middle group ; unfortunately has a lot of issues with anxiety so we double worried.
Any advice or reviews ?

Anaronin · 10/06/2021 23:59

I have knowledge about Teddy’s St Ed school, kids of my friends went there very good results.