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Could remote schooling become a choice?

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Raindropsonrosesand · 17/05/2020 09:15

Coronavirus has forced us to try new things which were previously dismissed as impossible. I'm certainly hoping to wfh more, even when this is all over.

I wonder whether the government should be looking at making remote schooling - properly planned, supported, and resourced - a long-term option.

Effective remote schooling is possible: my DD's (private) school has been amazing at providing a really good remote learning experience. They have a full timetable using Teams on their school ipads, with taught real-time lessons and teachers available for support. They also have form time for discussion at the start and end of the day, which keeps the kids connected to the school and each other, and includes daily activities to help them process what's going on.

Don't get me wrong, it's a hard thing to do well. The teachers are very obviously working incredibly hard, and it's more difficult for them to gauge how kids are doing and help them than in person. A lot of important parts of the school experience are missing. It does still need significant support from parents for the kids to benefit fully (although I think this would lessen with time, as everyone figures it out). And it certainly isn't for all kids: they need to be reasonably self-motivated, able to focus and keen to work.

In most cases, physical school will be a far better choice for children. I can't wait for DD to be able to go back safely!

But for a minority of kids - eg living in remote locations, army parents moving around lots, schools within reach haven't worked for the child, health issues that put them at risk in a school environment - it could be the best option. I'd probably choose it over boarding school for DD, if I had to make that choice. I expect that many of the parents who choose home-schooling would find this a good alternative. And many kids who just don't thrive at school might find this a better option.

The neat thing about it is that the children who would benefit from it can be geographically dispersed, which makes it much more achievable than other specialist educational provision. Even a tiny proportion of children adds up to a significant number across the whole country.

And without the cost of running an expensive physical school, there would be more money available for the technology, other physical support (books and resources sent to each child) and smaller class sizes necessary for it to work.

It would work well for teachers too. You could recruit them anywhere, so hugely opening the pool of possible applicants. In the short term, this would be great for teachers who have health conditions which make coronavirus exposure dangerous.

And finally, it would be really easy to assess the provision (which would be important). Unlike normal ofsted assessments which are done in one not-very-representative day, all lessons and interactions can be recorded and assessed.

Like I said, it's not easy. It would require some pretty serious thought and work to set it up in a way that works well. And it would only be the right choice for a small proportion of children, perhaps only for a limited amount of time. But I think creating that option could really enrich our state educational provision, solving significant problems for some children.

What do you think?

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justanotherneighinparadise · 17/05/2020 09:15

Yes!!!

Stuckforthefourthtime · 17/05/2020 09:18

It's been a thing for over 60 years in rural Australia... www.assoa.nt.edu.au/

MrsMoastyToasty · 17/05/2020 09:18

Children living in the Australian outback had been doing it for years.

tiredanddangerous · 17/05/2020 09:21

I can’t see it happening due to the cost. Schools would need extra teachers to make it work and there just isn’t the money. My autistic 12 year old would love it though.

AppleKatie · 17/05/2020 09:21

It’s already a thing here too. It’s been possible for years.

It’s not been desirable for most before and awareness was quite low.

I suspect after this there will be a small increase in take up.

I expect many physical schools will also be better at merging their online and real life worlds and this will probably benefit more pupils overall.

Raindropsonrosesand · 17/05/2020 09:22

I didn't know about Australia! So there are existing systems set up already to look at and use as a template.

Of course the huge distances make it more of an imperative there. But we could benefit too.

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OhWifey · 17/05/2020 09:23

It already exists here too. There are a number of online schools such as Interhigh

Raindropsonrosesand · 17/05/2020 09:25

@tiredanddangerous I would see it as something separate from existing schools: effectively new remote schools, set up centrally.

@AppleKatie - what is the existing provision?

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Elisheva · 17/05/2020 09:26

It’s already a thing, but you have to pay for it. Missionary children often use online schools if there isn’t a suitable international school near where their parents are working.

Raindropsonrosesand · 17/05/2020 09:29

Ah, I've had a look at Interhigh. So it looks like there's existing private provision, which makes sense.

But isn't this something that we should be looking at adding to our state provision, given that it has the potential to allow kids to access education where it might be difficult for them otherwise?

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OhWifey · 17/05/2020 09:31

There are also some state providers. For example for children unable to attend school due to anxiety or bullying. Red Balloon of the Air is one I know about but there must be others

AppleKatie · 17/05/2020 09:33

Inter high and a couple of others do ‘mainstream’ provision and there are several other more specialist ones if you google you’ll find them.

Prokupatuscrakedatus · 17/05/2020 14:08

DS (AS) - after he got over the initial stress of having his routine disrupted, enjoys remote learning with perhaps the occasional "in school day". He is far less stressed, has created his own schedule (basically one subject per day), to be done at a time that suits him (teenager). He even managed to get a good mark in a subject her hates.

MrsMoastyToasty · 17/05/2020 14:13

The Australian school of the air predates the internet. They used to use two way radio .

ChandlerIsTheBestFriend · 17/05/2020 14:20

I think it would be great. Especially when I think of a couple of children who refused school due to anxiety/bullying and their education stalled age 12/13. If they could have logged on at home and not have to face their peers it would have made an immense difference to their outcomes. So many others unable to attend school physically but could attend virtually.

IdentifyasTired · 17/05/2020 14:27

I would jump at this. I've looked at interhigh et al but I don't think we could make the finances work. We would have 4 sets of fees to pay.
But if it became viable then I would definitely be interested.

Flippinfurloughed · 17/05/2020 14:34

Ds is private and for various reasons I don’t want to send him back in September - he has a school place at another school for year 5, so it was just year 4 I was struggling with what to do for. Inter high may just be what I was after as he’s LOVED remote learning so much. Thank you so much!

Mrskeats · 17/05/2020 17:43

I work for an online school
They definitely exist!

NellyBarney · 03/06/2020 23:20

My dd school wants to go flexi - come in or join remotely via zoom, you are free to choose. Every lesson to be life streamed and also recorded so that kids can catch up if they missed it because of music lesson or even term time holiday or illness, use it for revision or extension (by logging into next years sessions). Don't know yet how I feel about it, seems rational but still weird. DD however ecstatic as loves lockdown and fact teacher can just mute everyone who disturbs the class. Might keep her SFH on days DH does WFH in future, would definitely save time (and emissions) on the school run.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 03/06/2020 23:25

Im the opposite in that I find teams echausting and would ahte for a child to have to be doign that regularly. Id rsther homeschool than have them online all day.

Levatrice · 03/06/2020 23:28

That flexi option sounds amazing but I sadly can’t see it being the norm Sad

lljkk · 03/06/2020 23:39

How do these lessons work well, especially if you have poor talents at these things yourself, or no equipment at home, certainly not enough people to make a netball team:

Sewing, cooking, sport, art, music, drama, Business, dance, DT ?

FluffyEarMuffs · 04/06/2020 09:46

My youngest is enjoying Outschool at the moment. It's supplementing her remote learning academic work.

Sewing, cooking, emotional development, dance, Harry Potter, reading groups.... it's all on there. She's spoilt for choice really 😆

lljkk · 04/06/2020 13:39

Do you have a sewing machine? Or a home-lathe? Maybe a 3D printer? Scales for weighing food?

I have really bad rhythm, stage presence, & bad hand-eye coordination -- I couldn't teach sport, sewing, music, drama or dance. 40 years of cooking & baking experience & I understand I'm still terrible at those things. I understand other people manage to learn these things from Youtube, tbf.

Drama, dance, sport -- are things meant to happen in groups. You can't really learn much about them by yourself.

FluffyEarMuffs · 04/06/2020 15:54

@lljkk I have a sewing machine and I guess I could get access to other things if my child showed an interest in it. Lockdown won't last forever (HOPEFULLY!).

My little one does have a passion for dance though and I now own dance flooring and a ballet barre so she can do her lessons remotely via zoom. She still feels as if she's interacting with other members of her groups she does things with, so the sociability is there. I like this aspect - when done safely and securely - over something like YouTube.