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Higher teacher assistant called my 6 year old an idiot

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:20

Last week a mummy friend heard this teacher call a young boy stupid, idiot and disgusting. He thought my little boy yesterday so I asked him if he liked this teacher to which he replied no, when I asked why he said he's mean, again I asked why and my little boy said he'd called him stupid. My little boy is 6 do that's bad enough but my little boy also has adhd. A few parents have come to me and said their child has heard him call other boys these names so it seems to just be aimed towards boys. What are parents veiws on this matter please as I actually want him struck off.

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AsAProfessionalFekko · 23/06/2018 09:22

Have other parents heard this? Children aren't the best witnesses to be honest.

noblegiraffe · 23/06/2018 09:23

You need to raise this with the school so that they can investigate.

soapboxqueen · 23/06/2018 09:23

No such thing as being struck off for an hlta Afaik. Have you (and the other parents) spoken to the Head?

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:26

My little boy does not yet know how to lie and a parent heard him call another boy the same names last week. I've also been told he's been complained about before and other parents are coming forward telling me they've asked their children and their children have said they've heard him say it to others in different year groups. He's a very large man and I think the kids would find him intimidating. My boy said he's the only mean teacher in the school.

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:29

Seeing the head teacher on Mon but have been told to not expect much as he's been complained about before and nothing happened. I'm not just leaving this with the head teacher, I'm also going to complain to Ofsted. I spike to the teacher in question yesterday, he denied it and put the phone down on me be caused I raised my voice a little and he didn't like it.

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noblegiraffe · 23/06/2018 09:31

You need to look at the school complaints procedure. It is likely that the next step after complaining to the HT is to write to the Governors. Ofsted will bounce you back to the school to follow the complaints procedure.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 23/06/2018 09:33

Why are the parents coming to you and not the Head? Are they passing the buck and hoping that you will go and see the Head?

LolaLilo · 23/06/2018 09:33

All kids know how to lie.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 23/06/2018 09:34

And stories can get inflated when children stay discussing them.

soapboxqueen · 23/06/2018 09:35

Ofsted won't care. They'll just suggest ways of making a complaint to the school.

If the head doesn't show any interest then you need to make a formal complaint to the Head first. There should be a school complaints procedure. Don't jump ahead and go to governors as it'll just waste time as it gets sent to the Head first anyway.

After that you can complain to the lea or dfe (for academies) but don't expect much.

I think your best bet would be a concerted effort by more parents to force the heads hand.

TitZillas · 23/06/2018 09:35

I can assure you that your DS knows how to lie at age 6. My 3 yr old certainly can!

SimonBridges · 23/06/2018 09:35

My little boy does not yet know how to lie

Aside from what this teacher may or may not have done I hate to break it to you but all children lie. All of them. Even the lovely well behaved ones.
There have been many studies. After the age of 5 ALL children can lie. It’s just part of human nature.

I’m not saying your child is lying in this case but I just want to dissuade you of the idea that your child doesn’t lie.

Teacherlikemisstrunchball · 23/06/2018 09:40

I'm not just leaving this with the head teacher, I'm also going to complain to Ofsted. I spike to the teacher in question yesterday, he denied it and put the phone down on me be caused I raised my voice a little and he didn't like it.

So you haven’t even spoken to the head yet, to give him a chance to sort things internally, your own son didn’t raise it as a concern until You quizzed him about it directly, and you’re already going to Ofsted as there’s no point in trying to sort it out because you’ve already been told by other parents in the playground that it won’t be resolved. And I’m not surprised he put the phone down if you shouted at him.

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:42

He doesn't, he has adhd and is little behind for his age. He has also stuck up for this teacher when another child said they weren't allowed to take their water bottle out whilst doing p.e. My smchild said they were.

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:45

Every child is different and just because yours knows how to lie doesn't mean everyone else's do. My child has struggled with his speech and has only been talking properly in the last two years. I also have a 19 and an 18 year old so I'm not a young first time mum. My 6 year old does not know how to lie.

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RavenWings · 23/06/2018 09:46

I'd put the phone down on you too if you shouted, good on them for doing that. You don't get to abuse people over the phone.

All kids can lie.

Go to the HT, hold fire until HT has investigated.

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:47

I did not shout, my voice was slightly raised and I also have witnesses to this as I would never kick off in front of my child or anyone else's.

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:49

So its okay for a teacher to abuse a 6 year old child is it. Are you really saying that. How can you assume i abused him?

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:52

Like ive already said, my child is behind for his age due to his learning difficulties. My eldest two knew how to lie at 4 years old, my 6 year old does not as he has adhd and just blurted things out. I do not have a blind fold on and I'm not claiming my child is an angel as sometimes he can be the devil incarnate when he is in that frame of mind but no child should be called an idiot by a teacher.

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RavenWings · 23/06/2018 09:53

Point out where I said it was ok to abuse children. Go on, off you go.

You are asking for this to be investigated, I'm not against that and I've said nothing against it. If it's true it's appalling.

You do not however have the right to raise your voice/shout at staff members. That is abusive behaviour and I'd hang up on you each and every time you did it, and I'd tell you why too.

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:56

Thank you for your advice. I am seeing the head teacher on Mon morning and other parents have said they would come forward with their information. I'm a little concerned this will be swept under the carpet as the schools first concern seemed to be with the teacher in question and not a 6 year old child who whilst in their school should be safe and looked after properly.

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 09:59

I'm wondering if you're a teacher rather than a parent and just to let you know, a parent told me she would have kicked out with the teacher in question in the playground. Your saying I abused the teacher well I'd love to know where you got your misguided information from. And the teacher in question Has actually been heard calling children stupid, idiots and disgusting...

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 10:01

Thank you I will do so.

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Mumsonthewarpath · 23/06/2018 10:04

These parents have taken their previous complaints to the school and nothing was done, they are hoping if there are enough complaints something will actually happen. This teacher is a big man and he literally bellows at the children but he's secondary school trained so I'm guessing that's because he's used to teaching teenagers and not young children

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RavenWings · 23/06/2018 10:08

You raising your voice at staff members isn't appropriate and I think they were entirely right to hang up on you. That phone call would have gone nowhere and no one has to take that kind of abusive behaviour. I don't give a damn what other parents said theyd do. I'd tell a staff member to hang up on them too.

If he did it, that's hugely wrong and he should not be working with children. Now maybe there are issues in the teachers life (which might be why HT was concerned with the teacher) but that's no excuse.

Let the HT investigate, no point in escalating it beyond that yet.