School sounding cuts

[mrz]

Will your child's school face cuts to budget?http://www.schoolcuts.org.uk/#/

Suppermummy Maybe Free Schools should be exempt from having to take 'disruptive' children until they become established.

How does not getting any schools on your CAF make you a "disruptive child"?

Suppermummy Maybe Free Schools should be exempt from having to take 'disruptive' children until they become established.

So how many years would you suggest the exemption be put in place?

Our debt is higher than it has ever been in recent years. So the Tories and their austerity hasn't achieved anything.

And we have never been, and we were never in danger of becoming like Greece. That was bull spun by Osborne to justify austerity. It's worth reading in to it.

As for parent governors - they don't have a single veto they work on governor bodies which collectively hold schools to account.

Please share your evidence re LAs and costs relating to schools. I would be most interested to read this.

Where did you get the idea that academies are accountable to parents? They can't shut an academy down. The only body that can do that is the Department for Education via the education funding agency who gives the money to academies. Parents can't do anything bar go to Ofsted or the governing body with their concerns. They have no direct way of going to the EFA to get a school closed

And I wait for you to address my points re teacher morale.

Suppermummy02
Maybe Free Schools should be exempt from having to take 'disruptive' children until they become established.

They are either inclusive schools or not, all that will happen is that their numbers are artificially inflated and the results/ofsted ratings of state schools drop.

I am not an authority on measuring educational progress, I dont know how it should be done, dont we pay people to work that out?

So why put it forward as an idea, all you have proved is that those that don't know about education shouldn't set policies.

Academies are accountable to parents because if they dont get parental support they are closed down.

But they don't get shutdown they get moved to other academy chains.

Believeitornot, LAs are they a costly bureaucracy because they take a percentage of the school budget. Then when it comes to spending that money councils manage to pay ten times more than things cost, from changing light bulbs to fixing potholes or building schools. Better to circumvent councils and give schools the money direct.

The schools in the huge local MAT here have to use certain 'academy improved' suppliers who charge massively inflated prices. They are also tied in to using a certain supply teaching agency who-on deeper inspection-turns out to be run by the wife of the grossly-overpaid executive head.

That sounds so much better than the LEA. Not.

This isn't about teachers' pay for crying out loud!
We don't have enough money to buy the new resources we need for the new specifications the government have insisted on without funding. Resources do not appear from nowhere!

These are the issues. .... SCHOOLS ARE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY. CLASS SIZES ARE RISING, CURRICULUM CHOICES ARE BEING CUT, PUPILS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS ARE LOSING VITAL SUPPORT AND SCHOOL STAFF ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS.

Not pay rises!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/30/nativity-play-financial-crisis-education

Given they claim the average teacher wage is only £500 less than that of the highest tier on the upper pay scale (10-12 years of teaching) the damage may be far worse.

I do know that as a good school in a nice area we are struggling to field effective candidates for maths, physics, chemistry, computing and economics... having had open recruitment adverts since last May. I can only imagine how difficult it must be for more challenging schools or those in economically deprived areas.

I also know many of the NQT who fully intend to hand in their notice as soon as the bonus is paid, several have jobs lined up ready.

To quote one promising maths NQT "In my first year I'll have earned about 50k with the bonus which covers most of my student loans. Now if I stay another year I'd earn less than half that... and if I stay for 10 years I might earn about 40k with TLR, or I could accept this offer and be earning that in 2 years and working a 30 hour week with a company car. Tough choice".

The issue of NQTs who quit teaching after a very short period of time is a very different issue from general school funding.
The level of loss of young teachers to other industries either because they find that teaching is not for them or because they go to a better paid position is ridiculously high. Nobody seems to have a complete answer but it has got to start with the trainee teachers better knowing what the profession is like (that is far more practical experience in schools) and also far more attention to ensuring that inadequate trainees do not finish the qualification.
As a school we have had trainee teachers who are fantastic, understand the stresses etc of the profession are are in for the long term and then those who are completely out of their depths and could not teach anybody but nobody seems to want to fail. They have to be to keep the quality of teaching at a high level. Most of the initiatives by the government to bring in more people from outside have been a failure and they need to go back to the drawing board about how people are trained to be teachers.

I spent many years in Wycombe - the neighbouring constituency to Maidenhead (MP Theresa May) and have experienced the grammar school system through my own children and as a primary school teacher.

I am truly shocked (appalled, disgusted) that Mrs May extols the 'social mobility' of the grammar school system, seeing that over half of the pupils in South Bucks grammar schools have been tutored, have been educated at independent primaries or come from miles out of area (or combinations of the three). She must be aware of what's happening 6 miles down the road (surely?)

You only need look at statistics - FSM, affluence of feeder primaries - to understand that this is a corrupt, unfair system, well past its sell-by-date.
And Theresa May should know this... MUST know this.

This will be a total, criminal waste of money.

http://schoolsweek.co.uk/nao-school-finances-report-headteachers-face-3-billion-in-cuts-and-10-other-key-findings/?utmcontent=buffer72d6a&utmmedium=social&utmsource=twitter.com&utmcampaign=buffer

http://schoolsweek.co.uk/dfe-must-get-its-act-together-on-school-finances-after-spending-watchdog-condemns-lack-of-leadership/

Thanks for posting the cuts calculator link OP. My DC school will lose out massively. (London). And all of our local schools. Duck knows our school is already struggling enough with their current budget and multiple kids with complex needs.

OK so what next? I don't know where to start protesting. Write to my MP? Local paper? Is there a 38 degrees thing about this? Can parents support the NUT?
Please could someone who knows advise me.

www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/27/schools-to-be-hit-with-first-real-time-funding-cuts-in-20-years?utm_content=bufferabeec&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

If they are not needed they will fail, if they are successful they will flourish. Its a much better use of money than funding failing schools that parents refuse to send their children to.
Precisely

But they aren't failing schools ...outstanding schools oversubscribed in my area are facing almost £400 per pupil cuts

No change for our school. We are outside London so currently due to 'benefit" from the rebalance.

We're at the opposite end of the country and schools in my LA stands to lose over £20 million

Only 2% of schools will not face budget cuts. I'm hearing of schools with classes of 40+ and a single teacher

I think people are finally beginning to wake up to what these funding cuts mean. We're miles from London & a lot of schools are laying off TA's.

I've often read threads on mumsnet, but this is the first time I have felt so passionately that I've needed to comment.

Most schools in our area will be significantly losing out. My children's school is a small school where budgets are already stretched to breaking point. I don't think parents realise the enormous difficulty that some schools face already. Costs are increasing, and I honestly think some small schools here will not survive, which in a rural area will mean children facing long commutes to get to oversubscribed schools, which are also facing cuts. There will be 40 to a class at junior level and less subjects at secondary if this continues.

If anyone's in the midlands and feels strongly that every child has the right to a properly funded education, there is a March in Shrewsbury, 11th March, 10am. It starts at the castle and ends at the quarry, protesting against the cuts and asking for fair funding for all schools. Roads are being shut, so it will be safe to bring children and it's easily accessible from the train station. All schools in Shropshire and Telford and Wrekin have details if you ask your headteachers, and there are flyers in many shops in Shrewsbury town centre if you want more details.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-39181882

#whatwouldyoucut

Rural schools in my area closing at a high rate, leaving families without their village schools, shared HT's sometimes across 5 schools (HT spends 1 day at each), staffing restructures to remove both teachers and teaching assistants. This means larger classes and much less individual attention for children. This may be ok in Some 'leafy' schools where parental support makes up for the shortfall (shouldn't have to) but certainly in schools where children have little parental support the lack of individual attention is a real threat to children's success.

This all comes at a time when everything in schools has changed, curriculum, assessment and the requirements of Ofsted has never been so demanding.

Just how do schools meet the demands with even less staff and resources.

"National Audit Office found that DfE has spent 850m on site costs alone for 175 free schls.Figures quoted everywhere today are an absolute nonsense. @BBCNews" yet existing schools face £3 billion real term cuts by 2020

While schools face huge cuts