and dd got offered a 'good' (music) scholarship. i am so proud. i'd like to stick my fingers up at a tutor i chatted to once who laughed when i said dd was going to go for the music scholarship when i told her that she wasn't/hadn't done any of the things that she (the tutor lady) said dd would have to do in order to have any chance of success. so my message is simple. if your child works hard and wants something enough and would appear to be half decent at it, it is possible to achieve a good result without being totured or jumping through the hot housed hoops that you apparently have to jump through in order to stand any chance. good luck to anyone else out there who is waiting for some entrance exam results