The best Independent schools generally take the highest qualified teachers?

[Hamishbear]

It might be obvious to many that the most academic schools insist that their teachers have an outstanding degree from one of the best universities but it wasn't to me.

For example if you want a job in Maths at Guildford High school allegedly you need a first in Maths from a well regarded university. You obviously need to be an outstanding teacher in the fullest sense too.

So do the elite schools usually have the best teachers? I suppose it stands to reason that there is more competition for jobs at schools that have a fantastic reputation?

Excuse me?

'ladies, there is no need for handbags at dawn'. That is patronizing: surely you can see that?

jabed since you have a First from a decent university you should be able to work out that the fact that a particular individual has a lack of qualifications cannot in itself amount to evidence that their school was poor. Of course it's a non starter, evidentially.

Jabed is channelling David Cameron "Calm down dear ..."

Is there any possibility, Jabed, that you are in fact David Cameron?

I fail to see how there can be any "tone" to what I have written. You are reading what isnt there OSN.

No, I am reading the line 'ladies there is no need for handbags at dawn'. Which is there. And it is patronizing.

I second Nit. You grew up in the seventies fcs. 'Ladies' indeed.

You have lost me yellowtip. Who has a lack of qualifications? Your qualifications? Do I know them? (Or if I did, can I remember them - the answer to that is clearly a no!)

Hopefully, hopefully not, however, you have to remember I am older and Isuspect I may write with a particular style, but it isnt patronizing. That is being read into it.

@Jabed You are flattering yourself. I didn't 'give you' two independent schools at all. When I mentioned two independent schools upthread it was in response to Yellow who had made a reasonably fairly critical comment about the independent schools in the SW as a whole. I was also being fair - the two schools mentioned are very good, there's no denying it - just not as good as the grammar school is. That is relevant for the purposes of this thread and the narrative which some people are trying to push which is that private schools are always better than state schools. This is not the case. Certainly not in the south west which has a number of not great (yet not cheap) private schools (such as Plymouth college) and it's not the case even for the private schools which are, when measured on an absolute scale, very good.

The presence of so many private schools in the county obviously does have an adverse impact on the education of many of those in the state system, it also has an adverse impact on the education of those who are paying because they are not, in my view, getting value for money.

I always call the female gender "ladies" . It is the way I have been brought up. In my day it was polite. You didnt go around doing anything else. I am sorry - what do you want me to call you ...... dont answer ..... I am certainly not going to use the b word.

No, what you did was to see two people whom you assume to be women disagreeing, and defined that as 'handbags at dawn', which you the patronizingly told them there was no need for. You might be slightly older than some people, but you can't just use that as an excuse.

sohia. Perhaps read her post on Sunday 8 july at 14:44. Then respond to mine which was a comment on that.

I don't think I've ever posted about my qualifications, if I have any.

Why on earth do you need to say either in this instance? You're being obtuse.

And this is off topic I know, but no more so than most of the other tangents in the 32 preceding pages!

He was still seventies Nit and therefore sex and drugs and rock and roll.

It's not about how you refer to women when you need a noun to do so. It's about whether and when you need to in the first place (do I say, oh man, man, there is no need for you to get all castration anxiety over this?)', and, when you do, whether you see it as your role to tell them what there is 'need' to discuss, or to cast all such discussions as 'handbags at dawn'. Nobody younger than about eighty needs this explaining unless they are being wilfully obtuse.

No, I saw two posters whom I knew to be female arguing and I felt that I may have been responsible (as us blokes usually do feel like that about ladies - and that?s a bloke thing) in that I asked the question that seems to have started it off.

Yellowtip - I am firmly a classic model from the 1950's. The sixties and seventies passed me by.

I am a gentleman. I will say nothing more. I bid you all a good day.

Actually, I don't see 'handbags...' as being a gender related insult since that is what we at the Lane invariably call a punch up on the pitch (such incidents always being started by the dastardly opposition of course). So when I see the phrase 'handbags...' I always think of Vinnie Jones and his ilk and smile.

Oh,byeeeee!

(do I say, oh man, man, there is no need for you to get all castration anxiety over this?)'

No, you would say "Gentlemen, decorum please" :) Since this is not the topic.

Well I don't think you can really tell me what I would say!
Especially as you have gone, like the gentleman you are. Don't get your y fronts in a knot, eh?

I don't know how I'd like to be described, but I'd prefer not to be described as a lady. Why did you need to bring gender (or handbags) into that post at all? It was hugely patronising. There is no excuse for it - you're playing the silly old fart card now, but it won't wash.

Yellowtip - I must have missed it, but why should a persons qualifications have any bearing on their being allowed to express an opinion or have their say here?

Jabed- you're being deliberately provocative, and unless you fall into the cliched "academically bright but lacking in emotional intelligence" category, then u suspect you know it. Anyway, aren't you supposed to be on a family holiday? Don't you have better things to do?

The point was that another poster claimed her lack of qualifications were evidence that the education in the south west is rubbish. She may later have retracted/refined her testimony somewhat to limit it to the education in Plymouth but honestly by that point it was all a bit too hysterical to take in.

Yellow pointed out that in fact one person have no qualifications doesn't damn an entire LEA. Twenty years later.

Having. Not have.

Also - was evidence. Not were evidence. Neither mistake can be blamed on an iPad since I am using a laptop.