The best Independent schools generally take the highest qualified teachers?

[Hamishbear]

It might be obvious to many that the most academic schools insist that their teachers have an outstanding degree from one of the best universities but it wasn't to me.

For example if you want a job in Maths at Guildford High school allegedly you need a first in Maths from a well regarded university. You obviously need to be an outstanding teacher in the fullest sense too.

So do the elite schools usually have the best teachers? I suppose it stands to reason that there is more competition for jobs at schools that have a fantastic reputation?

I really do not get British Feminism and I never have. There is no other counrty in the world IME where a woman would not be happy to be acknowledged as such and not be happy to be called a lady.

I also open doors for ladies, allow them to go in front of me on occassions, give up my seat for them, ask them politely to dance, and if I ask them to dinner, I will pay (I have the pleasure, therefore I will pay) . Its called good manners. I will also put up shelves, wash up, carry heavy bags and show respect.

Seems to me most of those here just think its fun to kick a man in the gondads and then complain.

Does it? Where does it seem like anyone is kicking anyone anywhere and then complaining?

Well I don't think you can really tell me what I would say!
Especially as you have gone, like the gentleman you are. Don't get your y fronts in a knot, eh?

The nature of my underwear is not part of this discussion. I have not mentioned yours, nor will I. As for what you can say - you can say anything. However a well mannered person would say as I suggested. Its etiquette.

Don't you have better things to do?

Not right now, no.

Gosh, Jabed, that makes me very for you.

Oh dear. I suspect you revel in being what you think of as a dinosaur, and think that you're upholding some sort of code that the rest of us have forgotten with your giving up seats for ladies and telling them to hush when they are bickering. I think it would be better for me to think of you as wilfully obsolescent, and give in.

Also I think now you've done your obligatory three last words on the subject after you say you are going, so have a lovely evening with your family.

I also open doors for ladies, Charming but unnecessary. I am your equal. You do not defer to me, nor I to you, nor go in for any display of faux-chivalry.

allow them to go in front of me on occassions, You need to learn to spell, and see above

give up my seat for them, No thank you. I am able-bodied.

ask them politely to dance, that's acceptable

and if I ask them to dinner, I will pay NOOOOO. That is wrong. That is so so so so wrong. No. I pay my way. The probability is that I earn more than you in any event. You DO NOT pay for me. The pleasure is shared (hopefully) therefore the cost is shared. If the cost is not shared, then the dinner invitation is reciprocated and the other party pays. Jesus. What century were you born in?

I will also put up shelves, wash up, carry heavy bags and show respect. Well all of those things are very useful but only to be expected. Expected from me, too.

If you need any evidence the education system here is rubbish I would suggest my achievements or lack of them would be it

I take it you mean this? She doesn?t talk of qualifications. I cannot say and will not because I will not make assumptions. She clearly feels (and I hope she does not mind my venturing this) that her education was not suitable and that she has not achieved anything, something, whatever she wanted perhaps? But we cannot tell because she is too vague.

She certainly expresses the view that the schools are poor. However, she is entitled to that as an opinion. I think she made some valid points along the way actually. It?s a pity no one picked up on them but you concentrated instead on the incidentals. But its water under the bridge now.

Dont be sad for me ET. Its good to have time to drink a coffee (I wish it were tea) and sit quietly.

code that the rest of us have forgotten with your giving up seats for ladies and telling them to hush when they are bickering

A code you have clearly forgotten OSN but one that in RL I find has considerable merit and is received well. Its good manners. I would tell anyone to hush up of I felt their dispute was not necessary. Bickering is so uncalled for. Ladies or gentlemen.

and if I ask them to dinner, I will pay

NOOOOO. That is wrong. That is so so so so wrong. No. I pay my way. The probability is that I earn more than you in any event

You need to stop nit picking nit, and learn some manners. I get tired of the spelling police too. Next it will be the thought police.

Look it up in De Bretts. If you ask for the pleasure (male or female) it is polite to pay. I doubt your means are greater than mine. But that is beside the point. If I ask you to dinner, I pay.

"I doubt your means are greater than mine"

Boasting about wealth is vulgar, Jabed- surely your etiquette guide tells you that.

ET, its not boasting, I just do not think she stated a fact.

You need to stop nit picking nit, and learn some manners. I get tired of the spelling police too. Next it will be the thought police.

And you need to read who is actually posting to you, because that was not me. Gentlemanly apology welcome at your convenience.

The probability is that I earn more than you in any event

But I suppose this by OSN is acceptable is it? Or does not apply to her - and if not, why not?

And you need to read who is actually posting to you, because that was not me. Gentlemanly apology welcome at your convenience

Whoops, mea culpa, and I apologise unreservedly. You should not need to ask. That you point it out would be sufficient.

Again: not by me. Read back.

I also apologise for the comment below that too. It should of course been about Hopefully.

I made the comment about earning more than you do (repulsive comment, but you need to look at the context) in view of the fact that you are a teacher, as you have explained on this thread. I am not a teacher and I earn more than teachers do. S'that okay? Still, even if you were a billionaire, I pay my way. That's what I do, and I think you'll find that that's what most women nowadays want to do. And in fact, need to do.

The probability is that I earn more than you in any event

But I suppose this by OSN is acceptable is it? Or does not apply to her - and if not, why not?

Let me correct this. It is not OSN I refer to and I apologise without reservation to her. However, my question to ET concerning the comment remains.

Well Jabed, thank you, but I think really that given you are so proud of being out of touch with anything post 1950s, didn't get the intervening decades, don't understand feminism, proud to be old fashioned and ill informed and ignorant and all the rest of it, there's no reason you should expect your views on education of any sort to be any better informed or in any way relevant. I feel better about just discounting them now.

I'm a man, anyway.

She wasn't lecturing the rest of us about manners and etiquette. I was brought up to believe that talking about who earns what is always vulgar. But to insist one has impeccable manners and then make a vulgar comment about income? Double standards, Jabed. Hypocrisy.

Hopefully, I am a gentleman. I will not discuss my means with you but I havent always been a teacher ..... ( as ET has chastised me once) . However, this was not about context. If that were the defence I too could use it. As I said, its about good manners. If I ask you out, I am asking for the pleasure and therefore, I will pay.

You may discount them OSN. Thats up to you. I discount no one based on who they are, their education, their occupation, background, their age, their culture, the colour of their skin or their gender, or anything else. I weigh a person?s words for what they are and what they say. I hope others are less dismissive and less prejudiced that you.