TUTORING CHILDREN THOUGHTS....

[bijou3]

Is IQ genetic or environmental?

With so many parents opting to Tutor their children for entrance into Grammar or selective independent schools one has to wonder if Grammar schools are selecting the boroughs brightest or are they selecting the boroughs best trained?

Do parents worry about the consequences of tutoring their children for highly selective schools and the possible repercussions that may develop over time if a child is unable to keep up?

How can we as parents gauge how good a school is if most of the parents are tutoring their children?

Quite!

or trying to get your coursework done? :o

Will you split your fee with us if we do your research for you?

Where schools are super selective, I don't believe that a child will get in even with a fair amount of tutoring if they aren't bright. If a school is only aiming to take the top 5%, I think the vast majority of the intake will be of that standard, just because competition is so high and they take whoever gets the highest results. There are more likely to be children who are worthy of a place that don't get one because of a lack of space than there are likely to be children who really don't deserve a place but got one just down to tutoring.

I think it's different in grammar areas or when children are being tutored for independent schools. Independents have very different standards to each other, and it's even harder to make a general comment on them than it is for grammar schools, which also vary widely.

In grammar areas where the school is aiming to find the top 25%, I think tutoring is more likely to have the problem of admitting children that aren't really up to standard.

It's so individual though, some children might benefit from being at a GS even if they are towards the bottom of the class, while others who are in the top 25% will be better off at the top of a less academically pressured school.

I don't have a problem with tutoring. I thought I did when my ds was going through the 11+ for a SS GS and only had me and a few practice papers yet was up against private school children who had proper tuition both at school and at home, but I have since learned that it makes little difference when a child gets to the school in question.

YANBU

Leave the bastard!

Are They?

If they are, good luck to them if they get a good school place for putting the extra time and effort into their childrens education.

And if a kid can't keep up, surely they would get extra extra tutoring by parents and school.

You have to have a good look at the school yourself to gauge whether its right for your child regardless of it being labelled a good/bad school.

I was offered a school with a bad rep for my DS but looked anyway, booked to see it in normal term time, not an open day. As it happens I didn't like it ( major disruption and noise in every classroom at 10.30 in the morning + an ineffectual head not fit for job ) but I went with an open mind.

And a schools reputation can go up or down very quickly with staff changes, implimentation of new policy.

Seen any shopping lists lying around?

Your fault for googling dragon butter.

Haha no, LOL. I?m just a Mum bereft at the tutoring culture in this country. I refuse to tutor my children I want them to have a life, not sit at home working every weekend after a week at school. It?s got to the point where parent?s eyes pop out of their heads when I say I?m not tutoring my children. Am I doing my children an injustice ?.. Or are they?

All work no play an all that

Who cares really?

You'll find it's basically impossible to force a child to learn anything, so if they're being tutored at home and it's working, they're probably happy enough to do it.

Some kids just want to get into the same school as their mates, so would be happy enough to go along with it.

It depends on the school you want. If you think they are up to standard to get in and cope once they are in, I think it would be unwise to not give a child any preparation at all.

You really need to discuss something else other than THE DCS, except at parents evenings or with your DH/DP or else you will end up with bad mother syndrome

Feeding a child an exclusive diet of Pom Bears, Fruit Shoots, and Gregg's sausage rolls has been proven to increase their IQ by up to 42 points! It's much cheaper than a tutor too win/win situation really, you just have to move house into the catchement area for a top Greggs, and not settle for a craptastic sink Greggs You pay a premium for a house close by but it's worth it for the smell from the oven alone.

I think parents should do what they think best for their children and not worry about what other children/parents are doing.

Wow, MN is feeling very cynical this morning!

I agree Pombear. We are fortunate enough to have three, yes 3 Greggs and a poundland baker.
My DDs IQ and general intelligence has gone off the scale.
She has SATS in May. Her school are planning brain boosting breakfasts. She has already told me she'd prefer a steak bake to a banana.

I'd think learning that 'Tutor' doesn't need a capital letter mid-sentence would be a first step ... or maybe you wanted recommend me some company, I don't know, that would help?

I just get this strange impression you might be dying to do just that ...

IQ is a mix of genetic and environmental.

The tutoring will show them the type of patterns and sequences they should look for, but spotting them in the exam is up to the child.

Greggs is ace - we have one, and KFC across the road sell fruit shoots. Tres convenient

Here we are in a superselective grammar area. Tutoring can be intense and particularly prep school coaching from very early on can be "teaching to test".

Me- this kids had 9 months or so of one to one tutoring which was focused on making sure they were sufficiently able first of all. I chose the tutor I thought was most honest on that front, an then a combination of practice papers and fun extension stuff eg programmable lego and art work (did DS art confidence the world of good!).

I think to put a child in for an exam that now happens early in Sept of yr6, from a state school, who has had no real exam practice (after all state schools get them ready for SATS in the spring ie 6 months too late!) is unfair.

I am very aware though there are kids at my DCs schools that really shouldn't there. "Booster classes" in maths evidence it. Also the DC know who struggles and that must be the most miserable place to be. A proportion are "advised" in other directions at 6th form (DS school has entry requirements for 6thform transfer too).

Houses near our Greggs go for up to 800k, I'm half a mile away so not worth nearly as much. So PomBear is correct

SirSugar DD is desperate to try KFC despite her cousins telling her it's made of pigeon.
Do they sell a breakfast similar to MacD's?

Why Yes ripsishere, its made of pigeon