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TUTORING CHILDREN THOUGHTS....

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bijou3 · 27/02/2012 09:53

Is IQ genetic or environmental?

With so many parents opting to Tutor their children for entrance into Grammar or selective independent schools one has to wonder if Grammar schools are selecting the boroughs brightest or are they selecting the boroughs best trained?

Do parents worry about the consequences of tutoring their children for highly selective schools and the possible repercussions that may develop over time if a child is unable to keep up?

How can we as parents gauge how good a school is if most of the parents are tutoring their children?

OP posts:
CappyHunt · 27/02/2012 10:39

Bereft? Hmm

PomBearAtTheGatesOfDoom · 27/02/2012 10:40

Ooooo rips three Greggs! Envy
It's often the way SirSugar a Greggs can have a massive impact on house prices - ordinary folks just don't get a look in. I myelf would have to walk for half an hour to get to the nearest Greggs :( (Although my teenager can do it in ten minutes )

ripsishere · 27/02/2012 10:41

But do they do a breakfast. I am foreward thinking. She could alternate Greggs, MacDs and potentially KFC for her brain boosters.

SirSugar · 27/02/2012 10:42

Not sure about the breakfast, I take them there for popcorn chicken box as treat after school instead of tutoring

PomBearAtTheGatesOfDoom · 27/02/2012 10:43

Our KFC do a breakfast, I've seen the posters. Never actually tried it though, so I'm not sure if it's nice or what's in it.
If it's for her brain though, well, if she doesn't like it you can always liquidise it and pour it into her down a funnel while she's sleeping! She'll be left behind academically and her life ruined if you don't. Us parents must be strong for our children and do what's best!

Theas18 · 27/02/2012 10:44

So is IQ genetic or environmental?

Dunno!! DH and I are fairly bright. I did very well at my school - a very average comp with low ambitions for students in the 1970s, because I had a v bright mate and we worked together, above and beyond the school work. She went to Cambridge. THey claimed her as "their" first Oxbridge success!

Clearly in terms of academic ability my 3 are outstripping their parents academically, even DH who went to a good public school. I assume this is the effect of an excellent academically inclined school on a receptive brain but who knows!

SirSugar · 27/02/2012 10:45

Has anyone tried the lastest giant burger from MacDs? I happened to notice its got 850 calories. Having that with large fries, large coke and an apple pie you would only need to eat once a day thus saving time for more tutoring

CappyHunt · 27/02/2012 10:47

I will see your three Greggs Rips and raise you one to four within spitting distance. Along with 976548793 kebab shops, 2 McD's nad 3 KFC. Naturally, my children are all geniuses.

PomBearAtTheGatesOfDoom · 27/02/2012 10:48

McDs do fruit shoots SirS, no need to bother with that nasty chemically dubious coke stuff! Grin

SirSugar · 27/02/2012 10:48

CappyHunt wins!

PomBearAtTheGatesOfDoom · 27/02/2012 10:49

OOOOOOO Cappy Envy

ripsishere · 27/02/2012 10:50

Well, we've probably got more chinese/indian/turkish take aways than you.
One place close to us does all three cuisines as well as offering liver and mash.
What a bizarre combo.

CappyHunt · 27/02/2012 10:50

Grin There were many reasons for choosing my street. It's paying off.

SoupDragon · 27/02/2012 10:51

Even bright children need to be taught how to answer the types of questions that will come up in an exam. They need to learn to understand what is being asked of them - they also need to be able to do what is asked though :)

SirSugar · 27/02/2012 10:52

Its the bacon one Pom, I keep thing that the average burger in MacDs is 450 calories, so it must be the bacon.

< I only have this info as research, I eat the stuff often rarely >

CappyHunt · 27/02/2012 10:53

Ah. Now you see, I have every other shop front (literally) offering curry as well - but because it's not all deep fried dubious meat by products, I didn't feel it sensible to add to my list.

SirSugar · 27/02/2012 10:53

Actually, I keep THINKING

CappyHunt · 27/02/2012 10:54

Clearly, SirSugar you had a deprived childhood and your parents did not feed you on superior quality Greggs and fat laden burgers. I do feel for you.

SirSugar · 27/02/2012 10:58

Actually CappyHunt, my parents took me to the first ever KFC in the area. This was a long long time ago and it was amazingly exotic. We all had the runs the following day.

I did get into the local grammar school though after this event

QuintessentialyHollow · 27/02/2012 10:58

Well, when the state is failing to teach our children, and children end up with gaps in their learning, a tutor is generally a good idea.

Especially if you are unable to afford private from primary age on and hope they have a chance to get a good secondary education!

You will have to bridge the gap between state and private somehow, and a tutor could be the way to go!

I am personally unable to bring my son up to speed in numeracy, possibly because I am his mum....

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 27/02/2012 11:01

I think it's a shame anyone would worry their child wouldn't be able to keep up at a good school.

Reach for the stars is my approach ! And believe in your DCs !

Any good school should be able to at least aspire to meeting the learning needs of all it's children.

TheElusiveBidet · 27/02/2012 11:02

My northern town has 3 greggs and 5 other independent pie shops. You can't walk more than 5 paces without the smell of warm baked goods.

TheElusiveBidet · 27/02/2012 11:03

I should also mention that we have successful grammar schools in the area. Coincidence? I think not. The correlation between pastry and academic success is an obvious one IMHO.

gabid · 27/02/2012 11:03

I used to work in a grammar school and it was noticable that some of the kids were tutored and struggling to keep pace. It was an area with good comprehensives as well. I think those kids were still bright and would have done well in a comprehensive - would have done a lot for their self-esteem. Its different if there is a grammar school and a sink comprehensive.

I am tutoring my Y2 DS (6) in maths since I noticed he was in the bottom group doing Y1 stuff. He has caught up now (moved up 3 groups in 6 months!) and should do well, but I think the root of the problem is still there as he doesn't listen or work well independently in school - I hope we can work on that and he will grow up and mature a bit.

Should I have left him in the bottom group?

SirSugar · 27/02/2012 11:06

So, in conclusion to your question OP, IQ is directly proportional to the consumption and distribution of take aways, fruit shoots, pombears, wearing PerUna and if you have been on Jeremy Kyle