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When do you know the school's not right for DC?

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Solo2 · 26/01/2011 10:38

Has anyone here had a child who's gone through a difficult time at school (like DS1 now aged 9) but, with parental support and persistence, has got through this and thrived?

DS1 - like his twin - is in an academically selective prep school. He was offered a place at age 2.75 at the pre-prep, perceived as the 'right sort of child for the school' but I turned the place as his twin didn't get in. Both were offered places at age 6.

DS2 is thriving - except struggling with maths, as the school are doing 11+ maths with these 9 to 10 yr olds, given there are several genuine maths geniuses at the school. DS1 isn't thriving. He's having a difficult year socially, feels isolated and bullied and is very very down on himself academically.

He keeps telling me he's "stupid".Sad He's in 'remedial handwriting'. He's struggling in the middle set of three maths sets and being told he'll be 'put down' if he doesn't do better. The maths teacher uses public comparisons and sarcasm to 'support' children Hmm. The school's feedback is that DS1's unfocused and lazy.

He's right in the middle of seeing a neuropsychologist, privately, as I think he has problems with attention/ memory and processing at speed but there's no outcome yet. I think his difficulties academically are hard-wired cognitive problems - not lack of trying.

He's recently had some ongoing health issues (investigations for irregular heartbeat and recurrent vomiting).

This school has a fantastic reputation and the seniors is somewhere near the top of the league tables. It's rapidly expanding and hugely oversubscribed. Class size is quite large for a fee-paying school (24 to 26 in each of three Yr 5 classes). It's 'known' locally as the 'best' school and both my twins are aware of it's reputation and don't want to leave. They feel familiar with the school, until last yr, DS1 had loads of friends and DS2 fits really well here (has Asperger's traits but so do many of the other children).

But for the first time, I'm seriously wondering if it's been a huge mistake to send them here. Maybe others have been in the position where your child has managed to pass entrance exams for an academically selective school and you feel proud and get caught up on a wave of feeling that they've 'made it' - a bit like I remember feeling when I got into Oxbridge. I wasn't happy there, however and I'm not sure DS1 is happy at age 9 at a highly 'esteemed' school.

Can this still work for DS1? Could he just be going through a difficult phase? Might he be fine by Yr 6 and have others had children who have similarly floundered but survived and thrived?

He'd be devastated to leave and it'd be logistically impossible to manage him in one school and DS2 in the current school (I'm a single mum running f/t business alone and no family support around). So in a way, either both stay or both leave...If DS2 stayed and DS1 left, I think DS1 would feel always that he was the one who'd 'failed'.

But then there's the thing that there's no clear alternative. There are 3 other fee-paying schools - with smaller class sizes - which is gugely attractive. Two of these, ('posher but not so academically selective)though, end at age 13 and many of the children then go to boarding school - not an option I'd consider / want or be able to afford.

The other school ends at age 16 - with children going on to 6 form colleges - and the school fees are less than what I pay now but there are only 16 children in each class. However, this school seesm to have a local reputation as the school you send your DCs to if they have "emotional/ psychological problems and aren't very bright" (not my words). My DCs would feel massively 'demoted' by a move here and neither wants to leave the current school either....

The local state schools are fine but have large class sizes and in no way compare with the fee-paying schools in terms of results, opportunities, extra curricular things.

As I have no partner to discuss this with, I thought I'd 'put it out' on MN. I'm about to meet with the deputy head and DS1s form teacher but this is to discuss how to help DS1 with friendships rather than a wider picture about his loss of confidence academically as well. I've already talked to the school about this but nothing's changed and I can hardly say, "can you get some better teachers, reduce class size and ensure that the maths teacher stops declaring publicly, DS1's poor test results each week"!

There is even more pressure than usual on the children as they approach important Yr 5 exams. They're getting masses of homework, as well as being expected to revise and certainly my DCs are not managing any revision as their ordinary homework alone (well the maths really) is taking 2 to 2.5 hrs a night. Last night they were both crying about feeling too tired to do anymore and I was in conflict, feeling like I'm failing them if I don't support them to complete homework but also feeling like I'm failing them if I push them beyond the limits.Confused Sad

This is all detail but my core question right now is - do I take them out of this school - but thereby possibly pass up on the 'best' education they might have - or do I keep trying to work with them and the school to help them/ DS1 through a difficult but hopefully transient phase?

Who has experiences to support each side of the argument please?

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Solo2 · 29/01/2011 19:42

Thanks Schmee Smile Acanthus, it's always difficult to get a full picture of things from posts written on MN when the poster (in this cas, me) is in the midst of a really intense time.

There's so much more I could post - the other reasons why I sent my sons here (including the recommendation from the headmistress of their pre-prep who has decades of success finding the right school for the right child and who I respected v much)...the fact that i felt guilty that i HADN'T sent DS1 here (to their pre-prep) at age 3.75 when he might then have made lifelong friends and not be having the problems he is now - just because I didn't want to split my twins and DS2 (who's now thriving here) hadn't got into the pre-prep feeder....The desire not to send my children to a more 'posh' school as I'm a non-traditional single parent family...

I have in fact been around every single other fee-paying school (admittedly not the state schools) in the area more than once each since my DCs were born. For various reasons, I hoped they'd end up in the one they got into at age 6. One of the 'posh' schools had a headmaster who kept asking me - on the three occasions I visited across the yrs - "And what does your husband do? And what college at Oxbridge did you say you'd been to?" - when he knew I was unpartnered and hadn't gone to any of the prestigious Oxbridge colleges - just the 'lesser' ones at Ox and Cam.

The other 'posh' school refused to let parents meet the head at all until they'd signed up and agreed to register their children there. Two 9 yr olds showed parents around and they were 'terrifyingly' BBC-English-speaking Midwich cuckoo-like automatons! I couldn't see my sons happy there.

Another private school tried to 'sell' me the school by going on and on and on about how they actually had one family there who "lived in a council house" (shock horror!) so a 'single mum' like me would surely feel happy there!

The school they're at has a very charismatic headmaster who really tried to 'connect' with me when i went round and prior to him becoming head, I'd also looked round the school twice years ago. Back then, it hadn't been co-ed and I hadn't felt so attracted to it or the head but when i went round just before my sons applied, I was v impressed by the head and by the fact that they were wanting to make it a more 'normal' environment by going co-ed and extending their facilities.

Unfortunately, people find it hard to have a new 'leader' and most of the old staff left and the co-ed thing is still in the early days. Staff turnover is high and I think the school is right in a transition phase.

I don't know if it'll settle into what I'd originally wanted for my sons. I'd liked the fact that the school wasn't 'posh' but if you were bright enough, no matter what your background, you could get in. they offered bursaries - although i only qualified for a tiny one which they've now taken away as my self-employed earnings alter each year and I'm doing OK enough at present...

As Schmee can see, I'm also in transition, trying to work with the school to see if it could be a better place for DS1. DS1 was v happy here for his first two years and had loads and loads of friends. It's just this year that he feels isolated. I do think the maths teacher isn't helping and the fact that he's with his twin for maths for the first time. In the past, all schools have split them for all classes as they thrive when apart and less in direct competition.

I don't want to disrupt my sons lives unecessarily but of course I do want them to be happy and like most parents, have sleepless nigths trying to work out what to do for the best and not rush into any hasty decisions.

As I don't have a partner, I use MN as a means of getting different perspectives on things. I appreciate that you don't know the full background and can only hear the fact that DS1 is unhappy and perceive that the obvious solution is to remove him. It MIGHT be the case but I'm not yet sure.

Thanks for your opinion however.

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fizzylollies · 29/01/2011 21:45

Sorry my post was really unhelpful. I just think schooling should not have to be this difficult. I know that it is, and it sounds as though OP you are doing the total best you can for your children which is brilliant.

I just think it is so hard over here.

Madsometimes · 30/01/2011 12:11

I agree with the posters who say that the maths/PE teacher is probably the problem. If your son is in a lower set, then I am sure he will thrive. Since this school is selective, the lower set will be working at a high level, so remind him of this if being moved down knocks his confidence.

honeygirl · 31/01/2011 16:55

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honeygirl · 31/01/2011 19:49

Solo2, so sorry to hear things not going well with DS1, but very much hope all gets resolved quickly. Sounds as if you are doing a great job, especially on your own. Good luck!

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