attacked by teacher at college.

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now it sounds more horendous than the whole thing actually is - although i feel its horrendous.

boy goes to college (15yrold)one day a week. was washing out a tin that had been holding paint. the tin had a small amount of paint at the bottom.

teacher got son by scruff of front of t-shirt and had him up against the wall shouting " you takin the piss?"

lad said all the kids behing teach were laughing so he burst out laughing. lad said he wanted to hit him back. am i toldlad hes a good lad for not doing so.

lad has a college co-ordinator called Jenny. lad told jenny who is going to "sort it out"

now wouldn't you think this would be the first thing to greet me as i walked through the door.

i was home over an hour when i was told and i was told in a "guess what happened to me today" kind of way.

anyway - going to phone the college tomorrow. am sure there is a fuller story than this - come to think of it i'm the only one who seems appaulled by it.

on exclaiming my disbelief my youngest son slowly shook his head and said " oh dear they haven't met Northern parents yet!" i had to laugh.

i hate the thought that these kids are being treated like secod class citizens becuase they obviously on the "teach 'em some employment skills quick before they turn into complete dossers" course ( technical course name that!)

my son has an apprenticeship lined up and has done me proud around the whole working area actually - but the whole thing has pissed me off.

thoughts?

and BTW - i shit you not - i don't make this up!

HOW ABOUT COMPETANT Rather than qualified??

thank you very much

Hi custy. One of the problems here is that legally an apology for what happened will be taken as an admission of guilt to an assault which obviously you can go to the police with, so nobody is going to give you this. I guess you now need to work out what outcome you want, and how much energy you are willing to put into pursuing it. If you are adamant that you want an apology you will need an admission of guilt which will probably only come through police involvement. The police however may decline to get involved - with my son they only interviewed him once the teacher who assaulted him went on to assault someone else. I'm not sure if I've got this right, but if the teacher involved is employed by a college that takes kids on day release rather than the school your son is enrolled in, I would go for him via his employers - i.e. the college. Personally I would go straight to their chair of governors at this stage, as well as the governors at your son's school. Yourson's school will have no direct say in any disciplinary procedures that may be taken against him, so I reckon go for the organ grinders rather than the monkies!

i want an apology. i want an admission of guilt - i've got over my own patience and kindness it was indeed bountyful at the beginning but this is just silly.

they have obviously interviewed the other two kids and realised that my son was telling the truth. now the game begins and i am gonna arse fuck 'em cos they should have just apologised.

sunnyd. thanks - your right, i dont really know how to go about contacting the board of governers and so i need to find out a clear line of complaint. will ring college tomorrow and find out.

luckily i have the week off work to get really annoyed about this.

the thing that really annoys me is the presumtion that i am as thick as shit.

there was clear surprise when we met with the VP - firstly that both ma and pa turned up. secondly that we were very articulate.

you see the thing thats driving me is the presumtion that becuase ds is on a day release - thats another way of saying - lost cause. becuase obviously only children who are intelligent enough to have further education hopes deserve rights.

its late and i'm pisssed off and ironically not very articulate at all. i just can't get over the presumtion that firstly - i wouldnt chase the college to get a meeting - and chase i did for a week. secondly that i would kinda leave it at the first meeting. which i did not. and on it goes. the presumtion that i dont give a shit if my son was threatened by someone in a position of power with his fist - the guy threatened to punch my lad in the face!

and only if you knew my lad ( well go off my dry sense of humour) can you get the comment " do you want to put me down now sir!"

i think though supposing this has been another kid with more fragile sensabilities - like my youngest ds, he is going to follow in the footsteps of his older brother of that thee is no doubt. had this happened to him he would be mortified and scared of going back.

and that pisses me off as well - in the letter they say "glad you enjoy colledge and are sticking with it" well - thats not an admission that its water off a ducks back - thats me saying get back ont he horse son - your better in the world with some qualifications. grrrrrr. am so bloody angry .

thanks - that was pure venting.

Sh!t Custy I have only just seen this thread.
You go girl and throw the book at em.

My DS2 has ASD and if he had remained within mainstream schooling would have ended up on one of these "day releases" because "he aint ever gonna be a brain surgeon" (words used by Head Teacher....great, thanks, just what I needed was the recognition from the head that my son will not ever get a decent job....an independant life is virtually impossible....so what job is he ever gonna get???)

DS2 was assaulted both verbally and physically by the Head Teacher on more than one occasion...we didnt find out until we saw the bruises. Difficult when your son has a language disorder for him to come home at the end of the school day and say "Hey Mum, Mr X picked me up by my school jumper today and threw me to the ground because I kept making squeaking noises!" Things got so bad for DS2 that he even tried to end his own life He was only 8 FFS

I kicked up a stink and pushed hard against every door that was shut in my face. The delaying tactics that you have faced are similar to my own experiences....stalling for time in the hope that you simmer down and give up....DONT.

Copy a letter to

The Board of governors of your boys school
The Head Teacher
The Education Welfare Officer responsible for your lads school....she/he should have been in touch with you now about this matter BUT my guess is that the college havent alerted her/him.
The VP of the College
and lastly to your MP.

Be very concise....Im not very good at doing that and tend to ramble...you need to list the facts...date of incident, who was present, what happened and then dates of all correspondance re the matter.
Ask for this matter to be investigated thouroughly and that you be informed of the result of the investigation.

Then you can suggest that in your opinion this blokey should NOT be holding such a post where he can man handled juvenilles.

Took me six months from start to finish but I got what I wanted and the Head teacher was asked to leave....he was due for retirement and was told there wouldnt be a big fuss if he left quietly....shame cus I wanted a court case just to watch the bully squirm

I contacted the police because IT IS ASSAULT and Im sure that if it was the other way round and your son had taken a pop at the teacher you would have had the boys in blue knocking on your door!

Good Luck and if I can be of any help in any way just shout.

Hey hon- love your letter and your determination to see this through. You're right- the college are well out of order and for really dubious reasons if your instincts about the attitude to day release pupils are right, as I suspect they are. I bet your boy is dead chuffed that you're fighting for him. Really hope these dingbats offer the apology he deserves and give you reassurance that this fool will get his act together before "teaching" anyone else.

thanks everyone. i have got dh to print off the letter at work. i have phoned around got the police school liaison officer name - hes on holiday. did officially report it to the police today. got the principles name and the clerk of the board of governers name.

went on the website and got the student grievence proceedure which says to sort out with teacher first. the goes on to departmental reps and such - just not appropriate in this situation.

so am going to post the letter any way and see what response.

i will then write letters attaching copies of corresponsence to the high school, the principle the clerk, the vp, the liaison officer.

and see who comes back.

Go girl!

Have you heard anything?

to my utter shame i only sent it yesterday. thanks for askng though, will keep you updated

well, after muchio p*ssoffidness,i phoned the police last week, they just phoned - its a child protection issue apparently and they are taking it very seriously.

there are two roads we can go down. ds can give a video interview - and look for prosecution and ds could be a witness in court.

or we can do a Q&A at home - a more infomral process and teacher will be talked to.

i said i didn't know at this stage.

gut feeling is ds wont want to go to court - y' know the gansta he thinks he is - don't do no grassin aight!

custy - only just sen this and am applaed - both at the original incident andteh subsequent treatment of your family - glad you have finally got someone to take it seriously.

I do think it appaling that the college seem to have taken the line that kids going there don't deserve any better, and am so glad you are sticking up for your son.

Did the college answer your letter? The thing that has most shocked me about this thread has been the response of the college authorities. I'm not trying to play down what the teacher did, but it isn't at all clear that the college has anything in place to stop it happening again. You should absolutely have been told what actions the college were taking against their member of staff. In a school, I doubt he would have kept his job. And I'm fairly certain it would count as gross misconduct in most other places of work as well. Whatever action you decide to take against the teacher, don't let the college off the hook.

I too am glad someone is taking it seriously Custy. Which ever route you go down I think an acknowledgement of the wrong that has taken place is a first step. The college just don't seem to care which is shocking. Good luck in pursuing this.

no becky, there has been no reply from the letter as yet. i think the police getting involved will give them a much needed kick up the arse

I'm glad something is finally happening custy. My DS was interviewed by the police and social services at home which was fine, though the social worker was a silly cow! DS was slightly taken aback though by the fact that I wasn't allowed to be in the room - I know your son is older but it might still be worth warning him. We decided not to take it to court as DS was adamant that he didn't want to be a witness - he just wanted to move on with his life, and we had to respect that. Isn't it crap though that you have to go this far to get any satisfaction!

Have you heard anything from the college or police?

update alert

i phoned the police on the advice of sunny delight after crappy college letter drawing a line under incident which i thought insufficient - so they pissed me off and i phoned - ages ago.

police contacted social services and they were round at my house today - i explained my concerns and they said that they had visited the college and that they were of the opinion that teacher got proper bollocking and has it recorded on his record.

we assured everyone that we didn't want to take it further for money - which is what they allt hought - but that i wanted the college and the teacher to know that its inappropriate.

there was a discussion about how the college had not communicated their actions adequatley enough to us - social worker said that her role was to offer support to son - at which point i got all brissly and said curtly" what kind of support"
it was stuff around if he had been traumatised ( my arse) police are satisfied that its all done with.

i am satisfied that teacher has been dealt with properly - but college didnt tell me so - the policeman from child protection unit had to do that and they are going to contact the college to tell them that all we wanted was an apology. - really - an apology..thats it.

will get a letter from social services in a few days no doubt and perhaps one from police saying what has been done and the outcome.

thats it - teacher was formally reprimanded - if he does it again he will be sacked.

so am satisfied.

please can i take this opportunity for all the fab advice and support your a wonderful lot

thank you

Glad it's resolved Custy but how frustrating that the bl**dy college didn't tell you what they'd done. Grrr.

I am very glad that this has finaly been sorted out. How silly of the collage not to tell you what had been done re the Teacher!

Glad it's been sorted and you're happy custy. I heard through the grapevine the other day that the teacher who hit my son has been re-instated at the insistence of the school governors (against the advice/wishes of the head). We dropped our complaint on the understanding that he would never teach again so it's back to the police for us