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attacked by teacher at college.

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Tortington · 27/09/2005 22:28

now it sounds more horendous than the whole thing actually is - although i feel its horrendous.

boy goes to college (15yrold)one day a week. was washing out a tin that had been holding paint. the tin had a small amount of paint at the bottom.

teacher got son by scruff of front of t-shirt and had him up against the wall shouting " you takin the piss?"

lad said all the kids behing teach were laughing so he burst out laughing. lad said he wanted to hit him back. am i toldlad hes a good lad for not doing so.

lad has a college co-ordinator called Jenny. lad told jenny who is going to "sort it out"

now wouldn't you think this would be the first thing to greet me as i walked through the door.

i was home over an hour when i was told and i was told in a "guess what happened to me today" kind of way.

anyway - going to phone the college tomorrow. am sure there is a fuller story than this - come to think of it i'm the only one who seems appaulled by it.

on exclaiming my disbelief my youngest son slowly shook his head and said " oh dear they haven't met Northern parents yet!" i had to laugh.

i hate the thought that these kids are being treated like secod class citizens becuase they obviously on the "teach 'em some employment skills quick before they turn into complete dossers" course ( technical course name that!)

my son has an apprenticeship lined up and has done me proud around the whole working area actually - but the whole thing has pissed me off.

thoughts?

and BTW - i shit you not - i don't make this up!

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Tortington · 06/10/2005 18:08

aww ta marina.

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LadyMarinaofSarfLondon · 07/10/2005 09:19

Well I bet that bad-tempered sod is assuming he'll get right away with it, and that is so wrong.

batters · 07/10/2005 09:34

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alux · 07/10/2005 10:50

now the instructor has gone down in my estimation. i work on the theory that if you have done unintentionally done something wrong, the best course of action is to apologise immediately and report the incident before someone else does. that way the injured party is more likely to give you some slack.

sunnydelight · 10/10/2005 11:43

I've been away so just caught up with this. The teacher who hit my son originally denied everything as well (he told the head teacher the day after that he had "no recollection of the incident"), but by the time he was finally interviewed by the police it was amazing the detail he could remember - including exactly what he was thinking at the time! Do make sure the witnesses have been interviewed today - if it doesn't happen quickly it will be argued that the kids' memories aren't reliable, or they have been "contaminated" by what they have heard from others. Please don't let this drop custy - the teacher who hit DS1 seriously assaulted another child a few weeks later and suddenly the people who thought I was making a fuss over nothing were covering their asses big time.

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Tortington · 10/10/2005 18:40

went today and gave a statement she said there should be a resolution by friday but was rather vague about how she would get there despite me trying to ask repeatedly.

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Redtartanlass · 18/10/2005 20:18

Any update custy? Or did you update on another thread?

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Tortington · 24/10/2005 14:40

this it seems is the conclusion.

a letter recieved today which says " i am writinf to advise you hat i have met with a number of people regarding the incident. i have agreed with both the member of staff and the programme manager that he will not teach the group again and will continue to undergo appropriate training.

i can assure you that college ensures that staff are aware and attend training sessions regarding their approach and attitude towards students.

i am pleased to hear that teencusty is enjoying course and has continued with the programme, i will ensure schools are updated on the matter.

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why then do i feel like ive just been fobbed off?

there is no admission that the teacher did anything. it mentions the "incident"

i wanted an apology.

the teacher is stil teaching other classes - just not my sons class.

do you think this is a good outcome and i am just being a bit rottweilerish?

i feel a sense of sweeping under carpet.

all comments welcome as your all very lovley and wonderful
ta

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HRHWickedwaterwitch · 24/10/2005 14:46

I missed this before as I'm not here much Custy but that's a fob off, big time imo. Escalate it to whoever VP reports to (P?). Unacceptable. Have you got statements from the witness children?

HRHWickedwaterwitch · 24/10/2005 14:48

and hang on, but all the teachers here say this would be completely unacceptable in a school, wtf would a college be any different? This man shouldn't be assaulting pupils and getting away with it!

edam · 24/10/2005 14:50

I'd be pissed off too. I'd write back saying this response is not satisfactory and making the points you have made here. Something like it wasn't an incident, it was an assault; you want an apology from the teacher and from the college; you want reassurance that appropriate disciplinary measures have been taken (not just 'he won't teach this class again'); and that the college makes it clear to all the lecturers/teachers that they must not assault the students and that their disciplinary policy will be updated to reflect this. Since it seems to need saying, bizarrely enough.

doormat · 24/10/2005 14:56

custy agree with edam and www
I would demand an apology or threaten them with the friggin newspapers
hope it all goes well

Batters · 24/10/2005 15:03

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Tortington · 24/10/2005 15:16

can you help me draft a letter - i mean points i should ask them to consider
i have this from edams post

response is not satisfactory
it was an assault; you want an apology from the teacher
and from the college;
you want reassurance that appropriate disciplinary measures have been taken (not just 'he won't teach this class again'); and that the college makes it clear to all the lecturers/teachers that they must not assault the students and that their disciplinary policy will be updated to reflect this

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doormat · 24/10/2005 15:20

also that the tutors behaviour towards a student was "totally unacceptable"

but good so far custy

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Tortington · 24/10/2005 15:34

will there be data protection issues around the statements taken from the other children?

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doormat · 24/10/2005 15:40

that is quite possible custy
never thought of that

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Tortington · 24/10/2005 15:47

my letter comments appreciated

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Dear Ms. xxxxxxxxx,

Further to your letter dated the 21st October 2005, I am writing to advise you that I am unsatisfied with the response. I have yet to receive confirmation that the teacher did indeed assault my son, the word ?incident? is insufficient.

I have yet to receive an apology from the teacher
I have yet to receive an apology from the College
I would like a copy of all documentation the college holds on this matter.
Please send me a copy of your complaints procedure.
Has the incident been officially logged with xxxxxxxxxxxxHigh School?
Does the High School still have loco parentis responsibility for my son even whilst at college?

The teacher is still teaching all classes but my sons group. This sounds like you assume there is a problem with the teacher teaching my son alone - rather than the teacher teaching in an environment perhaps he is not suited to.

??he will continue to undergo appropriate training.? What does this mean? That he will continue to undergo training that he would have done anyway? Or does this mean he is undergoing separate training as part of a disciplinary procedure? Has there been a disciplinary procedure? Has this teacher been disciplined? Please clarify.

I want reassurance that appropriate disciplinary measures have been taken (not just 'he won't teach this class again'); and that the college makes it clear to all the lecturers/teachers that they must not assault or threaten the students and that your disciplinary policy will be updated to reflect this.

I look forward to your response which should include the documentation requested in this letter

Yours Sincerely

Lisa Custardo

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doormat · 24/10/2005 15:51

"teaching in an environment that he may not be "qualified" to.

custy isnt he just a brickies arse with no teaching quals or is he an actual teacher

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Tortington · 24/10/2005 15:56

i dont mean qualified in that way - what word should i use? i dont mean qualified as in pgce i mean qualified in that he knows what hes doing - he is after all not on a building site

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doormat · 24/10/2005 15:59

cant think custy of another word at mo but it sounds good to me

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Tortington · 24/10/2005 16:00

thanks doormat your a gem

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doormat · 24/10/2005 16:02

wish i could help you more custy
but there will be intelligent people on here soon
hope it all goes your way

MarsLady · 24/10/2005 16:14

I think that the letter reads fine.

I don't think that there is anything else that you can write.

Haven't read the entire thread... just a bit from the top and the bottom....

Who have you written the letter to? Is it the Head of the College?

If you are not happy about the way they are responding then you should copy the letter to the Head of Education Services at your local council. Be sure to put the cc at the bottom of your letter. You could also cc your local MP. Nothing makes people take action quicker than when they feel someone else may get involved.

That's all that I can think of currently. Sorry if I've repeated what has been said before.

jura · 24/10/2005 16:23

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