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who have your school employes to cover ppa time

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codsicle · 09/09/2005 10:20

ok for htose of you who dont knwo teachers now have half and ady per week (!) to do planning preparationa and assessment

in that time your kid will be taught by someone else.

a lot of schools have recruited trained teachers for it BUT a lot of schools are doing it ont he cheap and using tas " supervised" byt he head. PSricularly on a friday after noon!!!( when kids are high as kites)

the staff do not have to remain on site at this time so there coudl be one head nad 10 odd tas.

i woudl urge you all to find out what your school has done for this time adn who is planning and supervising.

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AuntyQuated · 09/09/2005 12:11

Peachy, there are also loads of voluntary groups working with a-s and Rs. it could give you a taster if you have the time

PeachyClair · 09/09/2005 12:13

If you could e-mail me some details I would LOVE that! I finish my Rainbow group soon, so I can make time. I have worked for HomeStart as an Organiser and did bring in some racial awareness stuff when I was there, but not enough specific experience IYKWIM

Sorry for thread hijack BTW!!

AuntyQuated · 09/09/2005 12:14

will email you. hijack over

bee3 · 09/09/2005 13:08

It's not actually half a day, it's 10% of directed teaching time, which usually works out at about two hours a week.

Schools all seem to be doing it differently. I think the best way is having a teacher with a specialism taking the class for a set time every week (music, PE, Art - something that will probably be taught more effectively by a specialist than the classteacher, who is covering everything) , but it seems to more often be the cheaper option of using teaching assistants in a lot of places, and not always higher level teaching assistants. I do think parents should ask lots of questions about who is covering, and who is planning/marking the covered work (as it shouldn't be the classteacher).

My biggest bugbear is schools that employ a teacher for the junior classes, but are happy for TAs to cover the infants.....not a great message about the importance or status of the early years.

MaloryTowers · 09/09/2005 13:17

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codsicle · 09/09/2005 14:57

yes agree beee although we when we elmpoyed our cover staff we were emphatic that they woudlnt be given music to do every week byt he class teacher (!) enogh to drive you to reitrement

yes i mean half a day = 1pn till 3pm in our shcool

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swedishmum · 09/09/2005 15:58

Ours have TAs, even in the top class. I was shocked and posted bout this last year, though to be honest the TAs involved are HLTAs and have a lot more imagination, experience and ability than a couple of the supply teachers round here.

roisin · 09/09/2005 16:17

Ours is doing a mixture of provisiom - large school, 15 class teachers. They have employed 0.6 and 0.4 qualified teacher, one of whom is specialist IT and is teaching IT to some students. In addition the school already had a 0.5 specialist music teacher. Some classes also have some time supervised by a TA, but mostly quite small sessions - not a whole 10% iyswim. So for instance an infant class might have an afternoon with 45 mins music, 45 mins IT, then playtime followed by storytime supervised by an experienced TA.

happymerryberries · 09/09/2005 16:27

We have cover teachers

Christie · 09/09/2005 16:27

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codsicle · 09/09/2005 17:06

christie I was a teacher
so you dont need to tell me its so hard!
i just think thee goverbment houdl hav e sorted out teachers grumbles by making htem work holidaysa dn paying htem more

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littlerach · 09/09/2005 17:08

At DD1's school, her reception teacher will cover one class each pm, so that teacher has their PPa time then. The older ones in reception who stay all day will mix with Yr1 in the afternoons. Thi seems a good solution to me.

codsicle · 09/09/2005 17:09

oh and yes i can name the school that is doing that with the head. our head says iunfortunately it is quite common.
shocking

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compo · 09/09/2005 17:10

'For every lesson of the day I have to have a plan which shows differentiated learning intentions for every student'

MaloryTowers · 09/09/2005 17:13

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Yorkiegirl · 09/09/2005 17:15

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codsicle · 09/09/2005 17:18

yes agree mt
it was the jargont hat go t me int he end

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codsicle · 09/09/2005 17:18

oh! got me in the end

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codsicle · 09/09/2005 17:18

yg i have seen yout ticker

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happymerryberries · 09/09/2005 17:19

It is the paperwork crap which is the killer.

TBH I think that people in Primary get it worse than we do in secondary.

I like planning and I realise that although I hate mak=rking it is essential and so must be done, but form filling, time wasting cobblers just sends me loopy!

Yorkiegirl · 09/09/2005 17:27

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codsicle · 09/09/2005 17:27

hmb
spread the red

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codsicle · 09/09/2005 17:27

oh ye s i have

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happymerryberries · 09/09/2005 17:29

Sorry, the cod has spoken and I haven't a bloody clue what she wants me to do!

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