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my marriage became a badly written Eastenders episode

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Zenbook · 02/01/2025 01:00

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Hi, married for 30odd years. found out last year husband cheated for the last 5 with a colleague. how did I find out? he left out of the blue for 10 days. i left for work, and when I came back, he was gone. ten days of hell. then he agreed to come back. then 5 days later his 'mistress' (uglier, older, fatter and much stupider than me, but good bra size and jolly good company allegedly) showed up in our house unannounced and uninvited to tell me (sledgehammer event) he was supposed to have been moving in with her two weeks ago and chickened out. she called him all names under the sun in front of the shocked me. turns out they had been seeing each other for a few years and when i was away for work and seeing family she used to come to our house and he slept with her in our marital bed. and during lockdown. and when our kids were away. and when i was ill in hospital. we have grown up children. this hit one of them hard. the other is coping better. we argued for a month. he said he loved me and did not want to see her. then i found it the relationship continued for another 7 months (she pursued him until he agreed to start again) while he was swearing blind he did not want to have anything to do with her. at the start of the extra 7 months she arranged for him to see a divorce lawyer. he did. but undertook no further steps. he then broke it off again with her after those 7 months. we now live together and work from home, we live in the middle of nowhere. i don't know what to do. he says he loves me. he says he had made a big mistake. (when i say he slept with her= he had an op 10 years ago which made him impotent, so fumble with each other at best). also, it turned out her husband left her just before she invited my husband to 'sleep' with her on a business trip all those years ago. when her divorce finally came through she bombarded my H with rental listings until he left us (temporarily). when he did not move in with her, she pursued him until he agreed to see her again. when he finally broke off the second time she spent 6 months sending me messages about their escapades and him messages demanding damages. seemed like stalking.
we are both well educated although after having two children it was inevitable that his career flourished while mine floundered. there is a huge discrepancy in our earning potential. i take pride in how well he has done for himself (steered by my advice at the beginning) but feel cheated out of a chance to make an equally better life for myself. my family supported us financially in the beginning and paid for the children's private education, uni fees etc.

i don't know where to go from here. i see that she perceived him as a meal ticket. he lied and and lied and lied. i am in my early 50s and this all seems like a huge betrayal. educated and well read enough to draw enough lessons from social sciences, philosophy, art, literature. but when it's someone you lived with all your adult life - what do you do?

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Gcsunnyside23 · 02/01/2025 01:12

You deserve so much better than this. He betrayed you for 5 years then did it again.i wouldn't fight for him I'd let her have him

LeftWhisker · 02/01/2025 01:22

I would divorce him, he will not change. He is saying those things because he is scared of having to look after himself soon.
My ex cheated on me, I decided I wanted out. Loss of trust was something what took me ages to get over.
You will be fine on your own. You deserve peace in quiet in your life.

cuppaonce · 02/01/2025 01:24

if you feel you can’t leave and support yourself, then stay but make him suffer.

i know someone in your situation, she stayed but made him do all the housework shopping cooking cleaning even though he had a full time job. She went out with friends a lot, he felt guilty and couldn’t do enough for her, so she treated him like a slave.

username299 · 02/01/2025 01:27

You're 50 OP and for 30 years you've been with someone who doesn't respect you.

Do you want to spend the next few decades with someone who doesn't respect you or do you want to live with integrity? 50 is young enough to start again. Your children are grown, you have a career and you'll get a share of all assets. You'll be ok.

Don't wake up at 60 and have regrets.

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 02/01/2025 01:41

You say he's an intelligent man? Has he tried behaving like one?

Would you ever be able to trust him again? I couldn't so that would be the end of the relationship for me.

Monty27 · 02/01/2025 01:57

I'd be gone or actually he'd be gone

SplendidUtterly · 02/01/2025 02:04

He actually said to you "she has a good bra size and jolly good company"?

LongDarkTeatime · 02/01/2025 02:13

It sounds like it is your turn to visit a divorce lawyer to get ‘your ducks in a row’.
Once you know more about your position, if you a still not sure, you could try some couples therapy, to explore if there is a way forward which could possibly make you happy.

StMarie4me · 02/01/2025 02:16

(uglier, older, fatter and much stupider than me, but good bra size and jolly good company allegedly)

This is so bizarre.

JimmyGrimble · 02/01/2025 02:17

Tell him to fuck off and take half his pension. He sounds like an utter worm of a man. Don’t spend the rest of your life taking care of him.

Zenbook · 02/01/2025 16:26

thank you for your all your kind words (kind to me at least).
in response to some of the queries -

  1. H did not describe her as bra size and good company but that what she is. (bigger than me and always a good laugh. i am ponderous). he did say he liked her because she was good company. laughed everything away and spoke about football to him.
  2. He said he never argued with her and he always argued with me (what is there to argue about with someone you do not share anything but football with)
  3. she spent five years doing a Iago, i.e. dripping poison about me into his ears and he lapped it all up
  4. once he told her to leave him alone (in front of me) she found out my email and my phonenumber and she spent three months dripping poison about him until i sought advice from police.

I don't know where to put myself. I know I should not trust him an inch but he's gone out of his way to show her the metaphorical door. Or am I delusional?

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pikkumyy77 · 02/01/2025 16:30

Divorce, take half of his pension, and start to live for yourself.

Zenbook · 02/01/2025 16:33

in addition, a friend (a medic) said her behaviour was predatory stalking (she used to text him 20 times a day sometimes more, he said. if he did not speak to her on the phone, she would invent - my word- crises in her life and present herself as a victim so he would feel obliged to ring her back). the friend said my H had a midlife crisis and turned to a woman who did not require anything from him but to make her laugh. and who did not find faults, did not criticise, did not put demands, did not expect anything. she said 'your H just broke down and needed a teddy bear and you did not even see it'.
i don't believe in divorce, i never have. it's driving me mad.

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Quitelikeit · 02/01/2025 16:39

Block this woman’s number and email address from all devices

Change your phone settings to not accepting withheld numbers

I can see why she’s angry tbf

You - I really hope you have a happy ending this is an awful betrayal to come back from

Surely you’d get a large slice of the finances in f you were to separate?

Interesting how he decided to stay after a visit to the lawyer tho????

Gcsunnyside23 · 02/01/2025 16:42

But he hasn't op, he's carried on for another 7 months. There's nothing to show he's trying or isn't still carrying on with her. This man has deceived you for years, I don't know how you'd begin to build trust after that. Stop focusing on the other woman and 'poisoning him ', he's a grown man who made the decision to cheat for over 5 years, was in process of moving out, only to get cold feet THEN cheated with her again. He's not had his arm put up his back here, he's fully made these decisions. You just deserve so much better than this

Michellesbackbrace · 02/01/2025 16:49

Id rather be single and have less money than stay with such a pathetic specimen.

He sounds like a wet lettuce who enjoys having two women squabbling over him.

she pursued him until he agreed to start again

Don’t believe a word he says, the OW is always to blame. He’s been quite happy to lie to your face and sneak around for a large chunk of your relationship - how could you ever trust him again? If she hadn’t told you he’d still be shagging her and you’d be oblivious.

And taking her into your home - your sanctuary - shagging her in your bed? How can you even look at him? He has no respect for you whatsoever. He’d be out the door if it were me, there’s no going back from this if you’ve an ounce of self respect surely?

unsync · 02/01/2025 16:55

Your husband is despicable. Read back what he's done, it's awful. Do you really want to spend the rest of your life with someone like this? He's going to say whatever he has to to hang on, he'll know that if you divorce him, he won't come out of it well. He's going to keep lying to you and will likely do it again if the opportunity arises.

You deserve so much better. Please think about counselling to get your head around what he's done to you and also a family solicitor so you can understand your position legally.

Spondoolie · 02/01/2025 16:57

Why oh why are you focussing on her and not him? HE has betrayed you. HE has fumbled in your bed with another woman 🤮 HE is a liar. HE went out of his way to dupe you. HE has done this to you. Personally have no idea why you would even consider giving him airtime.

You are young enough to find out who you really are and enjoy life on your terms. Not some duplicitous cowards version of reality.

Go and make the most of it. For the sake of you, and all women

OliveThe0therReindeer · 02/01/2025 17:06

You are truly deluded Op. I undertand it is frightening to think of starting again on your own. But I don’t see how you have an option, unless you are willing to live the rest of your life in an “ open marriage “ with a man who lies to you and deceives you.

Id leave now, you have decades of your life in front of you to be happy.

2025HereICome · 02/01/2025 17:17

You don't believe in divorce? So do you believe in staying a relationship where you have been abused, cheated on (in your own bloody bed!?! Numerous times!) and made a complete fool of? You believe in staying in a relationship where your husband has brought a stalker to your door? Affected your mental health? Upset your children?

You're being made a complete fool of, stay if you have no self respect. Otherwise, you better start believing in divorce I'm afraid.

Loudjay · 02/01/2025 17:17

Was he too polite to cut her off ? He has been playing you . You need to confront reality . He takes no responsibility you deserve better . Don't be a doormat.

Waterweight · 02/01/2025 17:22

"we now live together and work from home" sorry but I read this as you & the mistress 😅

Please work on yourself & decide what you want to do because the trust is broken & he can't fix this alone so maybe better to end it all together

You deserve Soo much in life & are worth more then this

Zenbook · 02/01/2025 17:33

i know. i know it all. he has been a consummate liar. i used to hear him lie to his mother and challenging him even on this. but up to the point of betrayal i thought he was NEVER going to cheat on me because he was invested in our marriage, our children, our home. and he IS impotent.
i mean, i thought that's the end of any interested elsewhere. and it turned out that other women, when in need of company and financial support (he was supposed to be paying her rent and chickened out), are quite happy to forgo that a man is impotent, sometimes mildly incontinent etc etc.
but if he has spent the last year trying to persuade me to stay with him to the point of cutting off contact with the outside world - what then?
i do not condone abusive marriages. but i don't think it would be prudent for me throw out 30 years worth of effort over a fumble in our marital bed.
and he's with me not with her. i don't know why, but he is.
unless there's something i don't know which is still to play out in the future. but what for goodness sake? what else can there be apart from a desperate frumpy busty football-talking funny for some men woman who knows how to put on false earrings and nails? (i never wore jewellery in my life apart from my wedding ring. the engagement ring went down the toilet in a fit of rage).

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EuclidianGeometryFan · 02/01/2025 17:34

You have two possible futures ahead of you:

  1. decades living with a lying cheat of a man that you will never trust, always looking for signs of an affair (this woman or another), or resigning yourself to his affairs and deliberately turning a blind eye. Living in a sham of a false marriage.

  2. divorce, take half of everything including half the house and his pension. Get yourself a cosy little one-bed place and live in peace and quiet, enjoying yourself.

Stop focussing on the past, going over and over in your mind what he did and what she did. Instead, start looking to the future with open eyes.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 02/01/2025 17:37

The reason he is still with you is because he doesn't want to be alone in his retirement. You will look after his health and do his housework.
You are the safer bet.