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Divorce/separation

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Trial Separation was a facade

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MumOf4andTwins · 16/12/2024 06:59

Il try to keep this short because hard to cram all the history in. I had 4 children including twins under 3. During this time partner (sorry ex) worked out of the home full time and I had support of a nanny. It was great and I coped fine. After lockdown he was home 24/7 and let go of the nanny. His income halved and he was hit with two very large tax bills because of poor tax planning and interest started kicking in on the credit cards. I’m not on the mortgage and we aren’t married. I went back to work and got an expensive hobby (won’t say what it it’s to protect my identity). I lost lots do weight and got breast augmentation and at the time he became increasingly drunk (that has reduced now) and abusive and was hiding the financial struggles from me. He didn’t ask for help and I didn’t offer it (very selfish on my part)
Fast forward two years of bickering we agree to a trial separation with a semi/nesting arrangement eg I am out of the home 2 days and stay near work we spend 3 days as a family in the family (his)home and then I take the kids for 2 nights on weekend to my apartment . Admittedly we weren’t romantic or physical in this time but my understanding was we were having a break from the pressure while kids were young and would reevaluate after a year.
turns out that he lied and had a new partner he has been seeing since feb (trial separation was initiated in Nov) they live together when I have the kids at my apartment and have been travelling on dirty long weekends abroad (she is a mum going through a divorce). I only found out because he was dumb and inconsiderate enough to take her out in my hometown and my best friend spotted them when I asked him he told me I’m disgusting he hates me and that I’m deluded to think he would ever have got back with me. Basically gaslighted me and deflected. He has shown no empathy for the fact he mislead me (I’ve not dated anyone in this timeframe as per the plan) and no empathy for how this may have hurt me.

He says wants to coparent amicably but I don’t trust he will stick to anything we agree. He basically wants me to be amicable and he seems to think he can be hostile. I mean we were sharing a bed until I found out. I’ve left the family home to make things work, I let him sell my car when he was broke and been faithful yet he has done nothing but abuse and invalidate me emotionally. I am thinking for my own mental health parallel parenting may be best with little contact but I love his company and I do love him still and enjoy talking to him. No one else really understands me. The kids are fine with the separation as I forced him to tell them if we are making it officially a separation. Obviously it’s in their best interests if we coparent amicably but he is taking advantage and I just give him control. The only way I see me getting over him is limited non child related contact and not being his friend but so confused what’s best for the children I am so hurt by how he has gone about everything and the lies and gaslighting etc and it probably won’t change but then we do get on and I think he is hot as hell. I want him back but I accept there’s no hope. I hate his behaviour but can forgive it I’m just worried down the line he will lie again and introduce kids without my consent and other questionable things going against parenting plans and don’t want to be nice to give him comfort to do this. He is in total control at the moment - I just don’t know if I should cut the cord and just have a clear parallel parenting and get over him or just be friends and wait for the next bombshell where he betrays me. What’s best for the kids? He is a very hands on dad btw and I can’t fault him for carrying his share on his days with the kids.

Also I am not perfect and don’t fit into the traditional sahm role and I wasn’t as supportive as i could’ve been when he was going through financial issues during the pandemic . ( I had 4 young kids to “homeschool”‘during Covid and also was recovering from battering my body from back to back pregnancies)

I can be amicable and civil but we are so meshed lines are blurred and he doesn’t reciprocates I can’t afford to rent without him and as childcare is 50/50’ not entitled to maintenance and he owns the family home (we are not married). I need him financially to get my affairs in place in order to move on. All a mess and thankfully the kids not suffering too much but worried for the future. Mentally I am not OK. This lie and new partner thing is concerning because he clearly resents me and that’s scary I don’t know what his plans are

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MumOf4andTwins · 16/12/2024 17:54

Taytocrisps · 16/12/2024 17:46

Normally you draw up an agreement regarding custody of the children. Generally speaking, one parent is granted custody and the children live permanently with that parent. The other parent has access to the children at agreed times. Sometimes parents have joint custody and the children spend an equal amount of time with each parent.

I wouldn't assume that your Ex will help with your rent payments. Even if he's prepared to help out now, this could change in the future for any number of reasons e.g.

(1) he loses his job
(2) he develops a medical condition or illness which means he's no longer able to work
(3) his new partner moves in and puts a stop to it when she discovers this arrangement
(4) he has a child/children with this partner (or another future partner) and is no longer able to afford to do so

You'd be better off to do a bit of research and find out what your entitlements are. Contact your local Citizens Advice service and see what they say.

As for co-parenting, this involves communicating strictly about the children and their needs/issues. Here are some examples

  • Your child is sick, so you let your Ex know that you've taken them to the doctor and they've been prescribed medication
  • Your child has had an accident, so you let your Ex know that you've brought them to A&E
  • There's a school trip coming up. You discuss it with your Ex and decide whether you're both happy for your child to go on the trip. How will you split the cost of the trip?
  • Father's Day is coming up - ask your Ex if he'd like to take the children that day. And obviously he should reciprocate when it's Mother's Day
  • You let your Ex know that the school has raised concerns about behavioural issues or possible special needs
  • Your let your Ex know that your child is upset because they were bullied at school today/this week
  • You let your Ex know that your DD's dance class is putting on a show on X date, if he'd like to go. This means that there will be extra rehearsals on Tuesday evenings from 5 - 7 p.m. for the foreseeable future.
  • You let your Ex know that your DS's football club has an awards ceremony on X date
  • You let your Ex know that it's Christmas jumper day at school on 12th December and your DC will need their Christmas jumper that day.

It will be 50/50. However I don’t think it needs to be that extreme. If I leave quietly than I’m sure he won’t be as cruel. I think he is frustrated because he wants out and was scared to tell me properly so if I make it easier than I can’t see why we can’t be interacting and friendly as I’m not exactly going to be rocking the boat or bringing a new man around etc

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Barrenfieldoffucks · 16/12/2024 18:41

MumOf4andTwins · 16/12/2024 16:04

yes I should have just got married when he proposed in 2019 but I wanted to wait until we could afford a proper wedding and Covid and financial troubles got in the way.

it very hard because he is abusive but I am very sensitive so easy to hurt and i am not perfect myself because I am so insecure making me self absorbed. It’s a toxic relationship so i get it needs to end but just frustrated he couldn’t just have a family life and then his GF on the side - I don’t care about having another partner just wanted him/my family

In what way is he abusive?

MumOf4andTwins · 16/12/2024 18:55

Barrenfieldoffucks · 16/12/2024 18:41

In what way is he abusive?

Emotional abuse - in the past six months
When he is drunk/we argue Tells me I’m a terrible mum and everyone in village thinks I’m a skank because of boob Job
has filmed me in an argument without my consent where he was goading me and threatens to show everyone
threw out my air fryer without my knowledge cause i hadn’t cleaned it and then gaslighted me and said I was mental has must not remember taking it to the apartment and said I need to get psychiatric drugs (later confessed he did throw it out cause was sick of me not cleaning it )
locked me out one evening because I challenged him about lying and said it’s his house and then eventually let me in after a long while and said I need to sleep on sofa
tells me the kids hate me and would choose him for in a custody battle
told the school I’m mentally unstable and asked to be main POC
has removed my access to the ring camera
put a password on the heating which he won’t share
put a password on the tv which he won’t share
password on iPad which he won’t share
changed internet password which he won’t share
can only have hot water at set times
told me I’m a Frankenstein because of surgical scars and pretended to vomit when he saw me naked
tells me no man would want me at 35 and that he is in his prime
forced me to sell the family car

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MrsSchrute · 16/12/2024 19:02

MumOf4andTwins · 16/12/2024 18:55

Emotional abuse - in the past six months
When he is drunk/we argue Tells me I’m a terrible mum and everyone in village thinks I’m a skank because of boob Job
has filmed me in an argument without my consent where he was goading me and threatens to show everyone
threw out my air fryer without my knowledge cause i hadn’t cleaned it and then gaslighted me and said I was mental has must not remember taking it to the apartment and said I need to get psychiatric drugs (later confessed he did throw it out cause was sick of me not cleaning it )
locked me out one evening because I challenged him about lying and said it’s his house and then eventually let me in after a long while and said I need to sleep on sofa
tells me the kids hate me and would choose him for in a custody battle
told the school I’m mentally unstable and asked to be main POC
has removed my access to the ring camera
put a password on the heating which he won’t share
put a password on the tv which he won’t share
password on iPad which he won’t share
changed internet password which he won’t share
can only have hot water at set times
told me I’m a Frankenstein because of surgical scars and pretended to vomit when he saw me naked
tells me no man would want me at 35 and that he is in his prime
forced me to sell the family car

OP you need to get far away from this man as fast as possible. He is not your friend. He is not someone you can trust.
Do you have anyone who can you support you and help you to leave?
This man is dangerous, you and your children cannot stick around.

MumOf4andTwins · 16/12/2024 19:45

MrsSchrute · 16/12/2024 19:02

OP you need to get far away from this man as fast as possible. He is not your friend. He is not someone you can trust.
Do you have anyone who can you support you and help you to leave?
This man is dangerous, you and your children cannot stick around.

My family all live quite far away but yes I have two sisters

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MumOf4andTwins · 16/12/2024 19:46

MrsSchrute · 16/12/2024 19:02

OP you need to get far away from this man as fast as possible. He is not your friend. He is not someone you can trust.
Do you have anyone who can you support you and help you to leave?
This man is dangerous, you and your children cannot stick around.

I am not innocent though I am very self absorbed

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