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Husband wants to keep the house and kids- all for money

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Baffers100 · 16/10/2023 14:09

I need some help- I am a year in to a divorce, still living in the same house (separate rooms). We have a 3 and 7 year old.

We are mediating but it is going slowly. He has confessed he is dragging his feet. He doesn't want any changes until September 2024 when our youngest is at school and he doesn't have nursery fees (which he pays 50% at most, it's only this last year I've stopped bank rolling him).

He wants to stay in the house until our youngest is 18- citing it will be cheaper for him than buying or renting. He thinks as I earn more than him, I can afford to move out, still contribute to the mortgage here, pay him maintenance to support the kids of £500 per month and be the sole provider for all school runs, or cover any childminder costs if I can't do it. He's expecting I have the kids every other weekend.

I want 50/50 custody as it is best for the children- they need both of their parents. I can't afford to pay the mortgage here and my own property, hence co-habiting until finances are agreed upon.

He is planning on taking me to court to get the house and kids. Is he talking total utter tosh and I shouldn't be worried? Just concerned I seem to have a dirty battle on my hands. Can't believe he thinks the kids are better off only seeing me on occasion (properly I mean, not just school runs!) It all seems to be motivated by money and not their welfare.
I earn more than him (he's on £43k base, I am on £68,500k base).

OP posts:
Stomacharmeleon · 16/10/2023 21:53

@Baffers100 please get legal advice. Your last post is one of the worst I have read on here and I am sending a hug and a big bag of 'fuck you' to that bd.

Dotcheck · 16/10/2023 21:58

PinkDeer · 16/10/2023 19:43

And he works in a school as well?! Is he a teacher? I’m so sorry Op, he sounds horrendous.

I thought that too.
I bet he’s one of those officious middle management types who charms everyone but secretly looks down on support staff and women

bonzaitree · 16/10/2023 22:04

Am I missing something? You barely earn any different £43,000 vs £68,000. After tax and NI there’s a few hundred quid in it.

it’s not like one of you is on £30 and the other £200 is it?

Christ! Lawyer up and see him in bloody court.

Baffers100 · 16/10/2023 22:51

The mediator knows.

The incident post childbirth was nearly 8 years ago. I made is very clear I was in a lot of pain but he ignored me, some shit about "needing to get back in to" or it would be better once done. I immediately hated him after and thought that's not how you treat somebody you love. I felt like a bit of meat. I was still breastfeeding, my body didn't feel like mine.

I ended up sleeping with a work colleague who expressed an interest and made me feel beautiful- something he's not called me once. Not proud of it at all. but over the many many many nights of pouring over why I wasn't happy I accepted that it was the person I had married who was letting me down. I did a bit more soul searching to try and work out where it went wrong- was it all on me, but in my mind it was this incident because I lost total respect for him. I said to him that incident felt like rape.

It was only when I sat down with my mediator and offloaded everything (this and my latter infidelity) she said I had been raped, and it hit me. I was referred to a few charities and have called them but just been redirected to forums, nothing really helpful as such. It's not like I have flashbacks or anything so I don't feel like a victim or like I am struggling if that makes sense- I don't think I really appreciated the severity earlier on, I just feel like he's a fucking arsehole.

As well as feeling like this is never ending, the worst is not knowing who I am dealing with. Sometimes, he's like the guy I've known since 15 who is alright and we have a chat about the kids and music or what not. Sometimes, I come home with dinner in hand to cook for us all as a strained family and he's cooked for him and the kids and tells me I need to sort myself out, like it's an issue, or he will drop in a crappy comment to the kids "yeah buddy your mum's probably right, we can't play any more Minecraft because you should be in bed, sorry mate" like I am the bad guy.

His mother is a piece of bloody work. It really gets to me that his angle is all about the cash, not about what's best for the kids. A guy who's dinner repertoire is burned pizza or a spaghetti bolognaise, who does bedtime once in a blue moon. It's my money that's got us this damn house, 12 years of holidays where he's not even put his hand in his pocket for parking.

If I swapped him for a lodger, I'd be better off. I've had somebody clean their way and pay their way too.

Sound nuts but I don't have a lock on the room I sleep in (4th room/office etc). I've told him he's not allowed in, but this weekend went and got a security camera I've hidden so I can keep an eye on it when I'm not here. Might still get a lock.

I just can't lose my kids. They are my world - I'm not leaving them, I am leaving him, and I genuinely think they will be much happier children seeing a mum who is happy, and not one exhausted from having to put a smile on her face.

OP posts:
Baffers100 · 16/10/2023 22:53

Yes at face value, but I work in sales so have a good sum I "can" earn in commission.

He's clearly shared earnings discussed in financial mediation as his mother has written a child care plan which says because I earn 80k (basic and a bit of my commission) I can afford to pay for him to stay here, my own accommodation and maintenance.

My solicitor has said the court does not look at commission as it's not a guaranteed income.

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Totalwasteofpaper · 16/10/2023 23:09

His MOTHER wrote the childcare plan. Lmfao. This guy is a joke.

You have nothing to fear from him. Play your cards cleverly and get the hell out of the marriage.
As I said a good lawyer and securing the best deal you can get (financial and custodial) should be your no 1 priority right now.

CandyLeBonBon · 16/10/2023 23:19

Baffers100 · 16/10/2023 22:51

The mediator knows.

The incident post childbirth was nearly 8 years ago. I made is very clear I was in a lot of pain but he ignored me, some shit about "needing to get back in to" or it would be better once done. I immediately hated him after and thought that's not how you treat somebody you love. I felt like a bit of meat. I was still breastfeeding, my body didn't feel like mine.

I ended up sleeping with a work colleague who expressed an interest and made me feel beautiful- something he's not called me once. Not proud of it at all. but over the many many many nights of pouring over why I wasn't happy I accepted that it was the person I had married who was letting me down. I did a bit more soul searching to try and work out where it went wrong- was it all on me, but in my mind it was this incident because I lost total respect for him. I said to him that incident felt like rape.

It was only when I sat down with my mediator and offloaded everything (this and my latter infidelity) she said I had been raped, and it hit me. I was referred to a few charities and have called them but just been redirected to forums, nothing really helpful as such. It's not like I have flashbacks or anything so I don't feel like a victim or like I am struggling if that makes sense- I don't think I really appreciated the severity earlier on, I just feel like he's a fucking arsehole.

As well as feeling like this is never ending, the worst is not knowing who I am dealing with. Sometimes, he's like the guy I've known since 15 who is alright and we have a chat about the kids and music or what not. Sometimes, I come home with dinner in hand to cook for us all as a strained family and he's cooked for him and the kids and tells me I need to sort myself out, like it's an issue, or he will drop in a crappy comment to the kids "yeah buddy your mum's probably right, we can't play any more Minecraft because you should be in bed, sorry mate" like I am the bad guy.

His mother is a piece of bloody work. It really gets to me that his angle is all about the cash, not about what's best for the kids. A guy who's dinner repertoire is burned pizza or a spaghetti bolognaise, who does bedtime once in a blue moon. It's my money that's got us this damn house, 12 years of holidays where he's not even put his hand in his pocket for parking.

If I swapped him for a lodger, I'd be better off. I've had somebody clean their way and pay their way too.

Sound nuts but I don't have a lock on the room I sleep in (4th room/office etc). I've told him he's not allowed in, but this weekend went and got a security camera I've hidden so I can keep an eye on it when I'm not here. Might still get a lock.

I just can't lose my kids. They are my world - I'm not leaving them, I am leaving him, and I genuinely think they will be much happier children seeing a mum who is happy, and not one exhausted from having to put a smile on her face.

Mediation is usually never recommended if there's abuse?

Mumsanetta · 16/10/2023 23:19

Your husband is a vile man. I’m so sorry he raped you, it doesn’t matter how long ago it was, he still did it.

I think you are wasting time with the mediator as he has already told that he is deliberately dragging his feet - I am surprised that the mediator is continuing to mediate knowing that he raped you.

Please see a solicitor and find out if it would be possible to access legal aid as a result of the domestic abuse you have experienced. Even if you can’t access legal aid, a solicitor will be the best way to make sure you’re shot of him.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/10/2023 23:32

I would drop a day at work now if you could possibly afford it so that you have a similar salary

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/10/2023 23:36

thelonemommabear · 16/10/2023 16:19

All I can tell you is my experience - I'm the main earner by 4x ex husband doesn't earn much above £20k. I paid all childcare fees etc and I largely bankrolled his lifestyle

He left with a lump sum payment roughly equating to 35% of assets. No pension sharing. Sees the kids once a fortnight (no overnights as he's in a HIMO). He pays CMS. (Minimum)

I have kept the family home

I told ex husband if he wants 50/50 care then suggest he takes on additional work to cover 50% of all childcare costs - when he realised the childcare bill alone is £2k a month he backed down

35% of all assets that is brutal

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/10/2023 23:38

Baffers100 · 16/10/2023 17:34

It's been a year already and that's an incredibly suffocating feeling- answering to your children why you're sleeping in a separate room.

He resents me going to the gym and logs it on a spreadsheet. He's locked me out when I have returned from a night out so I had to sleep in my car on the drive.

He also forced himself on my 5 months post partum, still healing from a 2nd degree tear. I really don't plan on staying her a second longer than I have to.

Trying to be the best mum I can be but all of this is a huge mental battering.

That's awful he is a rapist and an abuser, in this case I would be seeking advice from women's aid and the police - they may be able to remove him from
The home

Quitelikeit · 16/10/2023 23:53

Why not start messaging him about that night and tell him is was rape?

See what evidence you can get

Also great idea if you have an understanding boss to drop down 4 days a week

Do not give your kids up, don’t leave the house - even take six months unpaid leave and tell him you have quit and the house needs to go on the market

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 17/10/2023 00:12

Quitelikeit · 16/10/2023 23:53

Why not start messaging him about that night and tell him is was rape?

See what evidence you can get

Also great idea if you have an understanding boss to drop down 4 days a week

Do not give your kids up, don’t leave the house - even take six months unpaid leave and tell him you have quit and the house needs to go on the market

Good idea with messages

JJ8765 · 17/10/2023 08:39

I would leave, take the kids and rent for a year while the court process goes through. Would you be able to buy him out. If not and house will get sold anyway then what are you staying for. Establish 50:50 (or more) before it gets to court. Get away from the abuse - you will think more clearly and be more confident to fight your corner. Could he take over the mortgage? Do you think he would default? Could you stomach the extra interest on a mortgage holiday while it gets sorted. At the moment he isn’t facing reality of funding a home for kids on one wage or the childcare on his days. Make 50% mean all day and overnight and any childcare costs on his days. Stop your parents helping on his days. If you would rather keep paying your share mortgage (because credit rating etc) could you and the kids stay with your parents. Don’t help with any of his other bills. Renting short term doesn’t undermine you and your dc need for a house or change the equity share. It would force the issue. In my experience selfish men won’t give up their wage for childcare and may go the other way and barely have them at all. Get legal advice but you have a good income and parents nearby. you have choices and if he was left funding the house and sorting own childcare he is going to struggle more than you. Kids need a happy mum more than they need a big house.

Tryingmybestadhd · 17/10/2023 11:04

have you tried messaging him about the rape ? See what he says , maybe he gives you enough evidence to open a case . You can then apply for a non molestation order meaning he cannot stay in the house . Personally I think you owe it to your children to protect them from him qnd to protect yourself . Let him go back to his mum

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