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Am I crazy to want to divorce over this?

98 replies

Cherriesandroses · 25/09/2019 15:35

I’m 37 and I’ve been married for 15 years, together with dh since I was 20. He’s eight years older than me.
We have two dc, 11 and 3.

In essence our marriage has never felt right to me. I married too young and he has always been in ‘control.’ I am slightly wary of him as he has a temper - he holds it together most of the time but he will snap if challenged. He had a good job and a house when we met and the fact he was financially better off and older means that he’s always had the control.

I’m now a sahm but I have no access to finances and he makes all financial decisions.
We don’t row. He would say everything was great. But partly why we don’t is I will back down because I’m slightly scared of him. I have no reason to be exactly. He’s never been physically aggressive but he will say things like ‘don’t talk to me at the moment or I might do something I will regret.’ Which feels like a vague threat. He will hiss through his teeth and his whole face changes. I am scared of him but I don’t know why.

Also I’m so bored. I know that’s a terrible reason to want to divorce but I am. We have nothing in common. I don’t like his family or his friends. He has nothing to do with my family and friends (they don’t like him) and we have totally different values.
He plays golf every single Saturday all day and spends Sunday at his mother’s. I never factor him into our weekend plans. He works away a fair bit but also plays golf at least one night in the week. In the summer as many as three evenings a week. When he’s here he lies on the sofa watching television and says it’s his tv and he’s watching what he wants. My evenings are spent in silence with things like deep space nine on tv.

There is a small element of control, he is happy for me to go out with my friends sometimes but he won’t let me have a night away with them. On the other hand he has been away on numerous stag and birthday events, sometimes for several days. He also occasionally goes out with his friends and gets very drunk and stops at his mum’s after as she lives by them. He then spends all the following day in bed, this is rare though. Maybe only three times a year and I don’t begrudge him a night out with his friends.

I just want more than this. I don’t think he will ever provide it. It’s so selfish though isn’t it. The children will suffer. I know dh would feel very much that he provides financially for us and I’m just throwing it back in his face. He loves the children even if he spends very little time with them.
I feel like it isn’t normal to not have any time together as a family unit apart from the odd holiday. I don’t see him a single part of our family anymore if I’m honest.
In addition he’s only ever had both children on his own (apart from when they are in bed) once and he’s never taken either of them anywhere apart from to his mum’s and he’s taken ds to the cinema. Once. He does take ds to his hobby every few weeks but that just involves dropping and fetching. He’s never cooked a meal or put any washing on or anything in the house but that bothers me less as im a sahm. Although even when I wasn’t it was no different. He’s never done a night feed or changed a nappy (we are out of this stage now, thank goodness). He’s never given me a lie in once, even in the days when Dc were tiny and I’d been up numerous times in the night. I don’t feel like we are a partnership.
It’s more that I want more than this. On the other hand if I left him it wouldn’t necessarily improve things and it could be worse. He would be fuming and would absolutely cut me off financially which would be very difficult. He also wouldn’t leave the house.
It would be out the blue for him. He thinks everything is great. I’m volunteering at the moment now my youngest is at preschool, although she’s been off more than she’s been there as she’s picking up all the preschool bugs 🙄. But I’m hoping to find a paid job in the next few months. When I was working between the two dc and ds was ill it was always my job that had to give as it was ‘less important.’

Is it selfish to want more than this? To think that it should be more than this? I don’t know. Sometimes I think I’ve had enough and I need to go but the thought of how it will affect the children just destroys me.

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AllFourOfThem · 25/09/2019 17:37

Absolutely divorce him and he has to provide financially for the children, assuming they live with you. You will be much happier in the long run and I expect your children will be relieved and adapt very quickly.

MrsMozartMkII · 25/09/2019 17:46

Life is too short to live this half-life lass.

Get out and breathe. The children will adjust.

AMAM8916 · 25/09/2019 17:49

Does he know about that money?

Cherriesandroses · 25/09/2019 17:50

No he doesn’t. It’s not in my name at the moment. It’s been invested very carefully in case I ever needed it. My gran was aware of my situation.

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Nat6999 · 25/09/2019 17:54

Since he spends so much time out of the home you have plenty of time to do your detective work. Look for payslips, P60's, bank statements & take copies, get your & your children's birth certificates, passports etc, copies of bills for ID. Find yourself a property either through private rent or council/housing association if you can, get yourself a good solicitor & put in claims for benefits for yourself & your children, once you are settled you can look for a job. Try & do this without letting your children know so they can't tell your husband. Get friends & relations to help you to move out preferably when he is either at work or playing golf & if you have any sense take his beloved television with you or at least "lose" all the leads so he can't watch it. He is abusive, you & your children deserve better.

hodgeheg92 · 25/09/2019 18:03

You only get one life. Do you want to be trapped like this forever? It sounds awful.

Cherriesandroses · 25/09/2019 18:06

No. I don’t. I know what I want.
The trouble is I’ve got to consider a lot of other people in this. It’s not as simple as what I want - dh will be so upset. Despite it all I don’t want to hurt him but I know I will if I leave and take the children.

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MrsMozartMkII · 25/09/2019 18:11

You don't want to hurt him? But it's okay that he's hurting you, and your children will be seeing this behaviour and either think it's right or will end up trying to protect you.

PurpleWithRed · 25/09/2019 18:17

DH might be upset, but mostly because you leaving will put you in the driving seat when he's had you as his doormat for all these years. Don't worry about him, he'll find himself someone else PDQ. As for the children, the reason they dangle after him is because he gives them so very little attention as it is: it's already tough for them.

I know it's really hard. I was in your boat. But now XDH is happily remarried to someone much more suitable for him and so am I and the kids are fine.

Quartz2208 · 25/09/2019 18:38

thing is he must know that he is not an involved partner or parent. He has made the choices that has led to this. He has. Not you, him.

Nat6999 · 25/09/2019 18:39

It is hard, I was terrified the day I left my husband, but it is the best thing I ever did. I don't have to what what I say, look over my shoulder any more. Your husband is abusive & won't change, do you want to live like this for the rest of your life & your children see how he is treating you? There is life on the other side, it isn't always easy but it is much better than waking up scared & unhappy every day.

joliejoleen · 25/09/2019 18:54

Your children behave like this because they rarely see him. He's always novelty to them. Whilst you're always there. My children are the same ages as yours and they're also mad about 'daddy' - because they see him once a week.
Leave that man. He doesn't care about you, he doesn't even spend time with you. You're wasting your life away. There's so much more out there and you sound like a nice person who deserves better.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 25/09/2019 18:59

Why do women always lay the burden of staying in a bad marriage on the children?

It's always a version of "he is abusive, threatening, violent, cheating distant, insane, a mama's boy, etc" BUT the children would suffer if the marriage ended.

If you mean suffer financially, maybe, but they wouldn't have to sleep rough and sell matches in the street!
If you mean suffer emotionally, they already are suffering because they are in this dysfunctional marriage too. I have known many children who have encouraged their mother to leave, and who have thanked their mother for taking them to a new, peaceful homelife.
I have NEVER known a child to say "Thanks Mom, for being lonely and abused and miserable so I could have a pony and go on vacations to Europe."
The best thing you can do for yourself and your children is to find a peaceful and happy home.

horse4course · 25/09/2019 19:02

Take control of your life. It's much worse for your kids to live with this model of a relationship than for them to go through the upset of a divorce.

What would you do if your kids entered relationships with people who treated them like this? Can you imagine yourself ever acting the way your husband does? The arrogance and entitlement is baffling. He thinks he can get it all with zero effort.

We're not in the 1950s any more, you don't have to put up with this crap.

AMAM8916 · 25/09/2019 19:03

PP above is right. My parents never split until I was 14, I wish they had a lot sooner

Chunkers · 25/09/2019 19:21

Your DH will be just fine, all he has to do is hire a housekeeper and his life will continue un-changed. Your DCs will be fine too, they may even see more of him if he can fit them in for access visits. Imagine all the fun the three of you can have! Movie nights with popcorn, dancing around the house, having friends round. Your setup sounds vaguely like mine growing up. Mum was fun loving, Dad was always working and tired. I wish they had split up, I know for a fact we would have been much happier. You could see the life draining out of Mum. I also felt the need to look up Stockholm Syndrome after reading your last post.

Cherriesandroses · 25/09/2019 19:31

Tonight - went to golf. Has got home. Had dinner. Now back on the sofa - announced it’s daddy’s tv time and now we’ve got Star Trek on. Great.

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Contraceptionismyfriend · 25/09/2019 19:33

What would happen if you took the remote and said his time is over and you're going to have an hour?

MarshaBradyo · 25/09/2019 19:37

It doesn’t sound nice or great op

You have every reason to consider if you want to stay at all

Or say to him counselling together to change, if no change, go

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 25/09/2019 20:14

I'm sorry OP but you really need to grow a pair. You owe him nothing.

Bembridge124 · 25/09/2019 20:25

You deserve so much more than this. You should divorce him

SuzieQ10 · 25/09/2019 21:30

Sounds like you'd be setting your kids a better example by leaving rather than staying in a negative (abusive) relationship like this.
And it does not sound like you will destroy him by leaving! It sounds like he cares very little about any of you.

Alwayscheerful · 25/09/2019 21:44

As a PP said, just think of the fun you will have without him.
He is using you as an unpaid housekeeper.
What are his parent like, what sort of role model was his Father?
Who cuts the grass, who does the diy? Washes the car? Puts the rubbish out?
He will find it very difficult to replace you, there are very few women stuck in the 1950s. You deserve so much more, line up your ducks and plan your life without him.

Brittany2019 · 25/09/2019 22:23

«Dh would be upset» ? Well, cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should have thought of that before checking out of family life so completely ?

Just get out, op. You’ll be better off, your children will be better off, and if your DH is not happy, well, boo hoo for him.

Techway · 25/09/2019 22:38

I am scared of him but I don’t know why.

It is your instinct warning you. The Gift of Fear is an excellent book which explains this.

It was this instinct that was the final straw for my marriage. I recognised I was afraid and it seemed so incompatible with marriage.

Would you be able to buy a new house from 50% of assets and your savings?

If you are with a controlling partner you have plan your exit carefully. Locate a solicitor and start to discuss your plans with family you can trust. Your children will deal with the separation, they will be upset but it won't take long for them to appreciate the relaxed atmosphere at home.