Mansplaining

[Theworldisending]

Now I don't want to be accused of Mansplaining in the main site.

I was on last night and I thought the world had ended/was ending.
The abuse thrown at MNHQ was unbelievable.

But I did think:

If in the original thread it had been pointed out by the OP that the ban was for a week and not for life, that AF had been banned before, had been warned again and had apologised.

I don't think that a week ban sounds so unreasonable or world shattering.

Agreed TheWorld

Its like its exploded over there.... a more comprehensive explanation probably would have reduced the frothing slightly.

Posters get away with murder on here. I know other forums that have much stricter guidelines. Must have been bad to get a weeks ban. No idea what went on.

So let me get this correct. Humour me, I'm old and from Australia. "Mansplaining" is when a male gives an opinion in a female area, example parenting(oh shock horror I made that error, beat me over the head with a feather), that is mansplaining?

No.

Mansplaining is where a man believes that what they're saying has extra validity because of their sex.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mansplaining

For example, in a thread about trying to cook while a small toddler runs riot a dad turned up and said 'have you thought about engaging with your DC? Toddler can make cheese sauce!'

It's usually obvious because the mansplainer will say something like "I'm a man, and this is my view" so everyone knows to take them seriously because they don't have a vagina.

or...

especially so where I man is telling a woman/women about stuff that they are actually better qualified to know about, and seems to think this is okay due to willy-possession, though it isn't the willy doing the talking. That is sometimes reserved for the arse area.

though sometimes round here any opinion offered by a man is eligible to be called 'mansplaining' - it's a 'silencer' by some who aren't using the term properly.

of course pansplaining is perfectly acceptable in all circumstances.

That's a fair point, Pan. I've seen some accusations of mansplaining which I disagreed with, but I think it's pretty rare. Especially in comparison to the amount of mansplaining.

Pan you are right of course, but in this particular instance I don't think the word was misused at all.

Husbands mansplaining and his contribution to that particular thread could be held up as a good example of what mansplaining is -and probably will be--

I didn't see the thread Just so I'd no idea about that thing there, but yep probably

Are we now allowed to refer to posters other threads?

I thought that that was bad netiquette.

Hey Boney, I don't mind go for it.
So what's it called if the other side does it?
Oh, TiggyD, thank you for wising me up.
Mental note to self: Self, never never never never never never give an opinion, bare testominy, to what you did with your kids lest some one concludes your a no it all __hole.
Never let a man tread in there again.. Oh silly me, woe is me.
Is there such a thing as womansplaining?

Husband evening!

You just have to take a bit of time, I think. This is a site populated by well-informed, expressive, critical and sometimes 'spikey' women. And some can be arseholes too. You know, all much like blokes can be? But it's a predominantly female chamber, so starting or contributing to a conversation 'penis foremost' is rarrrrely a good idea and means whatever useful thing you have to say will likely be discounted automatically.
Hope you don't mind this advice?

womansplaining - can you think of a time when a woman told you stuff that you know much more about, and she was telling you it simply because she had an automatic mandate to do so because she was a woman?

oh and there is a "Philosophy/spiritual/religion" topic if you have a quick look.

Hmm, I must be an idiot. Because when some one usually offers an opinion or suggestion I give it due diligence and thought. I try not to judge by gender (oops, did I say that word?). Especially if I don't know the person. Of course once I have got to know them, then my likely response might be something along the lines of "who pushed your button".
Having said all that, we have done something's different with our kids. Some worked; some -we won't go there. In the thread that I upset the opposition in, I told what we did, suggesting it as a possible solution. Oh, shock horror, a male put forth a possible solution and one from the land down under. How dare he, what?
Ok, I knows me place now. Thank thee for pointing out to me the error of me ways, second class colonial citizen that I is!

Well it isn't really 2nd class colonial citizen. There's quite a few sheilas (is that really bad?) around here.
You just have to be a bit sensitive about who you are posting with/to.
good luck.

Yes Husband, I had deduced you are an idiot already. It's the way you came across as patronising/condescending in your posts. You didn't simply give ideas or opinions you pointed out that you don't have the same problem because as a man you had a much better way of doing the task in question.

And your fake astonished self-deprecation is just utter trite too.

Pan - entering penis foremost is a brilliant way to describe it

yes, the only equivalent I find, albeit very rarely, is in RL when a woman leads cleavage foremost, and you want to say 'put those puppies away, they won't add to or detract from anything you have to say'.

Ha ha I have met a few like that Pan, but even still they are usually doing it to get 'their own' way with the menz and make other women feel inferior rather than saying breast is best and here's what to do... iykwim

True. Big difference.

My husband is Australian. He tries mansplaining on me fairly regularly. I sometimes bite but mostly ignore. Poor bloke, he just doesn't understand that his mansplaining input is, at best, irrelevant and, at worst, patronising unnecessary drivel.

Evening Thumbwitch! I have lost contact with our dear departed MrG. Last time he mailed me he was in Biarritz with his dd, but that was a while back, and he hasn't responded. Hope he is well.

Pan have a for your excellent answers upthread.

My DH has mansplained me on occasion - the last time he stopped mid-sentence, looked at me and said 'I'm sorry, I was mansplaining wasn't I?'

I suspect there may be a degree of 'womansplaining' with regards to childcare - there seems to be a belief among some quarters that men are not capable of being a suitable carer for a child. Which is bollocks.