How does it feel tone in here?

[kickassangel]

I'm just pooling around on my iPad, wasting time, when I realized that Dadsnet is in the club section of mn and wondered how people felt about that?

Would it be more relevant to be in the parenting section, or does there even need to be a separate section?

Just curious, really, but it sort of feels like being a Dad is some kind of hobby group you might sign up to on a Thursday evening, when I suspect that really it's part of everyday life.

BB - sometimes I surprise myself. thanks for not pointing out it should have been 'invoke'....

I am breaking house arrest before I go insane. will catch up later assuming the thread is still in existence.

I was going to; but I suppose if you have mystical powers, maybe the power of grammar suffers. Or something.

By the way, Pan: you're a bunch of complete bastards.

I know. Not my choice but the other Wizard thinks otherwise.

and it isn't some much grammar, more diction.

Ok, i don't have time to read all of this, but just to clarify a couple of things.

1. My name is KickASSAngel. Has been since 2003 and I do not name change.

1. This thread was meant to be a bit of genuine chat and exchange of ideas cos I was idly wondering something about Dadsnet.

Anything else that happens is nothing to do with me.

I used to live I the UK, now live in the US and am currently on holiday in Canada, so I shall now head off to have a late lunch with the family, and come back here this evening when it will hopefully have settled down and I will have had a drink to steel my nerves.

Talking of Wizards, I've just written the geekiest post ever in a movie thread about The Hobbit.

"it isn't some much grammar, more diction"

Or just simple spelling?

kickass - NOT YOU!! Really sorry! It's the other kickguru person that I at least was referring to. Am dipping in and out, so big apols for that confusion. Let it roll over you like a Niagra shower.

BB that truly is a geeky post. In fact I have no idea what you're talking about

Yes I did a search on your name for today's posts

I feel like I've stepped into the Twilight Zone

But AF I do think there is an element of truth to that I'm afraid. As women we say thing on here in gest about men, which taken out of context, or tunred on its gender head would be sexist and patronising, but the men are certainly not free to do the same without being pulled up very quickly. I wonder why, given that MNHQ have started Gransnet, they don't also start Dadsnet? I do think that apart from a few brave/foolish souls this place does not seem especially welcoming to them.

A handful of posters (MrGin being one) are very much on the same wavelength as women (that's a compliment by the way ) and apart from sometimes offering a bloke's perspective on specific issues, you would not really know they were men - we are all just people - and parents, sharing opinions and having a laugh.

But some men are very much 'men' and the whole tone of their conversation (and the things they are inspired to chat about) are different from the bulk of MN topics, and the I think we just scare them off.

The trouble is, if we did have a Dadsnet dedicated website, it would get invaded by hardline feminists always wanting to point out how they are wrong about everything - it probably would not last 5 minutes. They couldn't make the jokes about their useless womenfolk who can't read maps, like we do about men's inability to stack the dishwasher or see things on shelves in front of their eyes - it would be taken all out of context and get nasty.

There was some shit garbled grammar there, sorry.

could be spelling. But that is the very last refuge.
Will seek out your words BB.

Last Friday was at cinema with dd for Diary of a Wimpy Kid 3. Sweet, lovely, age-related stuff. She needs to move onto Stand By Me next.

Oh for the love of Nigel, you can't ban MrGin, surely?

Well, MrGin WAS rustling The Daily Telegraph.

When did we let Torygraph readers in?

Some years ago, when I went by another name, a poster started a thread declaring that Mumsnet should be a women-only website with all men stopped at the door. I'm not sure how she thought that would be achieved...

I politely pointed out I'd been here rather longer than she had, rather liked it, and didn't particularly like the suggestion that I should piss off somewhere else. I did this in the knowledge that the multi-headed, multi-limbed, scary, sarky, MN collective would probably come down on my side of things, which they did, in a flurry of jokes about bumsex & all secretly being hairy handed turkish truckers.

Obviously things have changed around here, as I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that now.

As WigGold. MrGin, really? Why?

It doesnt seem fair but i dont think MrGin will want to come back :(

Wouldn't blame him TBH

I'm not sure it's right to put words or thoughts into MrGin's mouth. Only he knows how he feels.

Helen kindly replied to my email re MrG. Nothing confidential or controversial. It's between him and HQ, if he wishes any progress at all.

Well, I was asked not to "...rake over the facts..." as it was being construed as "goading".

Personally, if I was interested in goading someone I'd do so actually in the Feminism folders themselves, not in this dusty corner.

But it's their gaff and their rules so that's my final word on the subject (seeing as my post from Fri 17-Aug-12 15:45:08 still remains).

What's going on? MrGin banned? Last night we were talking about crumble. What's happened?

I hope he does want to come back. It would be our loss if he didn't. I used to be horrified/scared at the thought of being banned, back in the day when it actually meant that you'd been a nasty/weird fucker, and it was the fear of being banned (or just disliked) that curbed my tongue on many an occasion.

However, these days the bannings/deletions are random, prolific and hard to fathom, and I no longer think there is necessarily any shame in it - it's luck of the draw. I think MNHQ has a much more nervous disposition these days.